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Mark Foley Investigation
WVVA ^ | 10/12/06

Posted on 10/12/2006 4:21:26 AM PDT by TexKat

A former aide to Florida congressman Mark Foley will go before investigators today.

Mark Foley's former chief of staff Kirk Fordham will testify today before the house ethics committee.

Fordham says he warned house speaker Dennis Hastert's staff three years ago of Foley's inappropriate conduct toward pages.

Hastert has denied knowing of Foley's conduct before the end of september and has said anyone involved in a coverup should lose their job.


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KEYWORDS: ethicscommittee; foley; kirkfordham
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Kirk Fordham, shown at a news conference on October 5, will testify he warned officials about former Rep. Mark Foley.

1 posted on 10/12/2006 4:21:26 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: windchime; maggief; tobyhill; Uncle Chip; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; penelopesire; ...


Fordham to testify he warned about Foley

POSTED: 9:47 p.m. EDT, October 11, 2006

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An ex-congressional aide will tell a House ethics panel Thursday that he delivered warnings about former Rep. Mark Foley to House Speaker Dennis Hastert's top aide years ago.

Kirk Fordham, who once served as Foley's chief of staff, plans to testify under oath that he warned more than one congressional official several times about Foley's inappropriate behavior with pages and that the warnings came much earlier than Republican leaders have reported.

A source familiar with his account of events told CNN that Fordham will say he notified Scott Palmer, Hastert's chief of staff, three or four years ago about a report that Foley had shown up drunk at the dormitory that houses the teenage messengers.

CNN was told by two sources familiar with Fordham's account and a third, independent source that Fordham maintains he arranged a meeting between Foley and Palmer about that report and accounts of other behavior Fordham found troubling.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/11/foley.fallout/index.html?section=cnn_latest


2 posted on 10/12/2006 4:25:41 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Joe Brower

*ping*


3 posted on 10/12/2006 4:26:32 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ( The kinder we are to terrorists, the harsher we are to their potential victims.)
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To: TexKat

Good Morning TexKat. Thanks for the ping...headed to read it.


4 posted on 10/12/2006 4:27:29 AM PDT by penelopesire
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Text of Kirk Fordham's remarks to AP By The Associated Press

Thu Oct 5, 9:03 AM ET

Text of remarks by Kirk Fordham, who resigned Wednesday as chief of staff to Rep. Thomas Reynolds, R-N.Y., in an interview with The Associated Press. Fordham previously was chief of staff for ex-Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla.:

I've learned within the last few hours that unnamed sources have purported that I intervened on behalf of Congressman Foley to prevent a page board investigation. This is categorically false. At no point ever did I ask anyone to block any inquiries into Foley's actions or behavior. These sources know this allegation is false.

Having stepped down as Mr. Reynolds' chief of staff, I have no reason to state anything other than the facts. I have no congressman and no office to protect. I intend to fully cooperate with any and every investigation of Mr. Foley's conduct. At the same time, I will fully disclose to the FBI and the House ethics committee any and all meetings and phone calls I had with senior staffers in the House leadership about any of Foley's inappropriate activities.

The fact is, even prior to the existence of the Foley e-mail exchanges I had more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene when I was informed of Mr. Foley's inappropriate behavior. One of these staffers is still employed by a senior House Republican leader. Rather than trying to shift the blame on me, those who are employed by these House leaders should acknowledge what they know about their action or inaction in response to the information they knew about Mr. Foley prior to 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_co/congress_pages_text_1


5 posted on 10/12/2006 4:28:35 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: penelopesire

Good Morning penelopesire!


6 posted on 10/12/2006 4:29:18 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

More and more this looks like what they tried to do to Rove in the Plame Game. Now the target is Hastert.


7 posted on 10/12/2006 4:30:56 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: TexKat
Foley is FRONT PAGE NEWS still in the Houston Chronicle.....

While "Harry Reid's $1,100,000 profit on land he did not own" is buried on page 7 along with, "Federal Deficit falls to its lowest in 4 years", a Denture ad, and a huge Palais Royal ad....

Hmmmmmm

8 posted on 10/12/2006 4:31:51 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: cbkaty

lol...now you are not really surprised at that are you?


9 posted on 10/12/2006 4:35:20 AM PDT by penelopesire
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In other news:

CONDOLEEZZA RICE: Remarks at the Swearing-in Ceremony of the Honorable Mark Dybul as U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator

SECRETARY RICE: Thank you. Thank you very much. I am truly honored and delighted to have the opportunity to swear in Mark Dybul as our next Global AIDS Coordinator. I am pleased to do that in the presence of Mark's parents, Claire and Richard; his partner, Jason; and his mother-in-law, Marilyn. You have wonderful family to support you, Mark, and I know that's always important to us. Welcome.

10 posted on 10/12/2006 4:40:26 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
"I have no reason to state anything other than the facts."

Other than my new book deal.

11 posted on 10/12/2006 4:51:11 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: TexKat
Having stepped down as Mr. Reynolds' chief of staff, I have no reason to state anything other than the facts.

So what is he saying here? I got fired so I'm going to spill the beans, whereas when I am employed, I will lie like a rug. Does anyone know whether Scott Palmer is a homosexual?

12 posted on 10/12/2006 5:15:26 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: TexKat

"Mark Foley's former chief of staff Kirk Fordham will testify today before the house ethics committee. Fordham says he warned house speaker Dennis Hastert's staff three years ago of Foley's inappropriate conduct toward pages."

----- My first question for Mr. Fordham: "you say that you tattled on the man you were working for three years ago, then why -- why -- why did you continue to work for him and for his re-election after that?".

Fordham looks down and to the left as he prepares another lie.


13 posted on 10/12/2006 5:17:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TexKat

Fordham looks like a heavier John Mark Karr!!


14 posted on 10/12/2006 5:18:16 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: TexKat

Is Scott Palmer gay also??


15 posted on 10/12/2006 5:18:51 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I believe Mr Fordham may be a jealous lover.


16 posted on 10/12/2006 5:30:16 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Just because he's a middle-aged never married man who's lived with a male roommate for years and years doesn't make him gay... Didn't you see "Odd Couple"?


17 posted on 10/12/2006 5:31:37 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Libloather; jla; TommyDale; SierraWasp; Just mythoughts

Why are Repubs shouldering all the blame?

What did Democrats know about Foley---and did Democrats withhold information to score political points?

Foley belonged to the close-knit Pink Powderpuff Club, and had a lot of "friends" up there on Capitol Hill. What kind of information were they sharing?

Specifically, what did Cong Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill) knew about Foley, and when did he know it? Rahm is Dem Cong Committee Chair.

As Dem Cong Committee Chair, did Rahm put young pages at risk, by holding back information to score political points?

It strains credulity to suggest Foley's activities were not known in small-town Washington where every "secret" is public knowledge and discussed 24/7.

Everybody knows who hangs out in "the club" bars and book stores on Dupont Circle.....that includes Democrat club members. Right Rahm?

The bizarre video episode seen on news segments where Foley is addressing Congressional pages is clearly Foley as predator, visibly "turned on" by youngsters. It was not the first time Foley "outed" himself in public view. He seemed to have had no problem flaunting it.

If Dem Cong Committee Chair Rahm Emanuel engaged in a cover-up about Foley for political purposes, he needs to be investigated, pronto.

Rahm's emails to Foley would be v-e-r-y interesting.


18 posted on 10/12/2006 5:34:58 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Uncle Chip

And, why did Fordham need to resign as chief of staff to Rep. Thomas Reynolds?


19 posted on 10/12/2006 5:36:49 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Suzy Quzy
Is Scott Palmer gay also??

Maybe that's what the 'Rats are attempting to imply.

http://illinoisissues.uis.edu/features/2002sept/hastert.html

Hastert’s inner circle consists of a small, trusted group of aides, mostly all white and all male. Stokke, his political adviser, and Scott Palmer, his chief of staff, have worked with Hastert for years. They know Illinois politics as well as the national scene. While in Washington, the three room together in a townhouse Hastert owns, where none of them has cooked a meal since 1986. Says Hastert, “I made tea once.” His sons also have bunked at the townhouse.
20 posted on 10/12/2006 5:40:10 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Liz
From Rush -

Democrats Shopped Foley E-Mails for Months, Grandiose Victory Vision Falling Apart
October 11, 2006

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: The Washington Post has a story today which some people read and take different things from. I read it, and it makes it clear that a bunch of Democrats knew of these Foley e-mails and instant messages for months, which we've all known, but this is the first time it's been documented in the Drive-By Media. They're out there saying, "How can we do this to children? How could this happen to children? How could the Republicans sit on this while the children were at risk?" and so we find the Democrats were the ones that were actually sitting on it. I have a companion story that goes along with this regarding an attack on a gay man by a bunch of kids 16 to 20. They lured him for sex via the Internet, and when he shows up they beat him to death, or not to death, but they beat him to a pulp, ages 16 to 20.

The only reason I'm going to mention the story is because it confirms what I have said on previous broadcasts about the fact that the notion that all these pages are little Mary Poppinses out there, just a bunch of innocent clean and pure-as-the-wind-driven-snow little kids is not necessarily a correct portrayal of your average teenager today. (interruption) Who trained them? Who trained who to do what? Who trained the kids -- what are you talking about? (interruption) Who trained kids to -- you mean -- Oh. You're bouncing off the story out of Texas yesterday that we have to spend $95,000 to teach kids down there how to fight back. Well, that's somebody with a gun. I mean, when you're sitting in the schoolroom and the school gets attacked, taken over by a guy with a gun, we're having to teach them to protect themselves in that scenario by throwing books and scissors and paper airplanes at the assailant. That's a good question. All of this will be explored as the program unfolds before your very eyes and ears today.

There's another bogus report from the same group that tried the same thing, a couple of days before the '04 presidential race. I think it's the group called Lancet, I'm not sure. But two days before the 2004 US presidential elections, this group published an estimate of Iraq's civilian deaths at 100,000. Today, they are out with a report, 685 or 635, I forget which, 600-plus thousand civilian deaths in Iraq that would not have occurred had we not gone there. It is the most bogus -- when you hear the -- what would you call it, the statistical analysis and rationale for this, it is a pure political document. It is pathetic. It is obvious that the Democrats -- you know what I think? I think the Foley thing is not working for them. Did you hear what Chris Shays did? I have a story here from the Hartford Courant, today. "Shays hits hard in page scandal, invokes Chappaquiddick in rebuking his opponent. Polls show issue not helping Democrats." Let me give you the details.

"When the congressional page scandal broke last month, Democrats across the country saw a chance to lambaste Republican leadership - including Diane Farrell, who called on House Speaker Dennis Hastert to step down. But when Sen. Edward M. Kennedy came to Connecticut last week to help her campaign, Rep. Christopher Shays hit back. 'I know the speaker didn't go over a bridge and leave a young person in the water, and then have a press conference the next day,' said Shays, R-4th District, referring to the 1969 incident in which the Massachusetts Democrat drove a car that plunged into the water and a young campaign worker died. 'Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody,' he added.

Shays' words were emblematic of the increasing bitterness over the fallout from the conduct of former Florida Rep. Mark Foley, a scandal that may not be helping Democrats as much as they had hoped. The GOP had seemed to be in deep political trouble a week ago, when many Democrats were stridently insisting that Hastert quit - and pressing their Republican opponents to make the same demand. But so far, the Democrats' idea to make Hastert the villain has not worked. An ABC News/Washington Post survey taken Oct. 5 to 8 found that three of every four respondents did not think Democrats would have handled the Foley matter any better, and roughly two in three thought Democrats were pursuing the matter for political gain, not to raise legitimate concerns. 'The Foley scandal has not earned the Republican leadership any goodwill, but neither does it look like a point of differentiation for the Democrats,' poll director Gary Langer said... Job approval of Republican leaders, 33 percent before Foley quit, went up 1 percentage point afterward."

I told you when they try to make the case that Hastert is the villain here, do a name recognition survey of people across the country and ask them, how many people have heard of Denny Hastert, and you're going to get a hugely large number of people that never heard of him. To try to make him the villain in this, and now we're learning that the Democrats had knowledge of the Foley affairs and sat on it. Let me give you some excerpts from the Washington Post story today, because the Washington Post acknowledges the Democrats' role in Foleygate. "But there are indications that Democrats spent months circulating five less insidious Foley e-mails to news organizations before they were finally published by ABC News late last month, which prompted the leaking of the more salacious instant messages. Harpers Magazine said yesterday that it obtained the five e-mails from a Democratic Party operative, albeit in May, long before the election season." And they sat on them. So did the St. Petersburg Times and so did the Miami Herald. I'm not sure if the Palm Beach Post knew of it, but I think they've been thrown in the list, I'm not actually sure. Back to the Post.

"But new information suggests that the story of the release of Foley's communications with male ex-pages is more complicated than either side asserts. The most sexually explicit material -- the instant messages that forced Foley's abrupt resignation on Sept. 29 and turned his actions into a full-fledged scandal -- appears to be disconnected from politics. The two former pages who revealed the correspondence to ABC News and The Washington Post, however, may never have come forward had Democratic operatives not divulged the five more benign e-mails that Foley had sent to a Louisiana boy."

Alright, what we have here, unmistakably, more confirmation of what I have known all along, and it comes from the Washington Post here, that Democrat operatives were the source of the e-mails. In fact, don't forget what what's his name, Jordan Edmund, when it was discovered that he was the source of the salacious instant messages, couple of his friends told Matt Drudge's website that, yeah, well, we were doing this as a prank, and we were creating these things, and we were baiting Foley and were printing them out, were passing them around, and they got into the hands of Democrat operatives.

We keep hearing that phrase, Democrat operatives. So what we know is Democrat operatives were the source, or an operative, I don't know one or more of the e-mails. We know that the story was shopped from November '05 to August of '06. We even had Brian Ross admitting that he saw the e-mails, everybody who saw them, everybody in the mainstream media who saw them, there's nothing here, no big deal, they were more interested in trying to destroy the Bush administration over the Katrina anniversary and the fifth anniversary of 9/11. And it was after these e-mails came out that then some pages supposedly, hmm, I got some better than this, and it started to trickle out.

But the bottom line here is the Democrats have known about it all along. The Democrats held it, the Democrats intended it to sort of confirm the story we got yesterday from The Prowler and the American Spectator, that they were holding all of this for ten days away from the election but they had to go with it early because their fortunes were plummeting, gas prices were going down, the president's approval numbers were coming up, the economy was looking great, a number of circumstances -- The Path to 9/11, the Clinton administration was melting down over a bunch of things. So they had to go with it, and to keep it alive they had to go beyond Foley because Foley quit so he was no longer the story so they had to focus on Hastert, and that isn't working. Now, when we come back from the break, the transition from this to what I'm going to play for you next is unbelievable. Ellen Tauscher on C-SPAN today, would you believe me if I were to tell you that the Democrats today have set out across the media to make sure that everybody knows they are tough on defense and that they are for a missile shield, now that North Korea has claimed to have gone nuclear, the Democrats all of a sudden want to portray themselves as hawks and strong on defense and always having been in support of a missile defense, which is caca. And there's a headline here in the Washington Times, "Democrats veer to the right in fight for House."

They have to lie to win the heartland. It's a story about Heath Heath Shuler, the former Washington Redskins quarterback. He's a Democrat running for a House seat in North Carolina declaring himself a pro-life member of the pro-gun NRA and accusing his opponent, Congressman Charles Taylor, of supporting amnesty for illegal aliens. So you've got Heath Shuler, a Democrat, trying to outflank a Republican on the right. Now, wait 'til the Democrat base hears about this. Wait 'til the kook fringe base on the blogs of theirs hear about all of this. They're going to be in a tizzy. Because the Democrats, to them will be abandoning their principles. And Ned Lament actually was on with Chris Matthews and shocked Matthews, couldn't believe it when Lament said he might favor an attack on Iran, not Iraq, an talk on Iran. So the sense I get here is that just from Monday and last Friday to today, once again, the grandiose visions of the Democrats to take it all back are crumbling in their very hands.

The keys to the House have become dust, and the dust is sifting through their fingers. They can't hold it tight enough. It's amazing. They have opened the door, and they've smacked it into their face, bloodied their nose yet again, because, ladies and gentlemen, their motives are now seen for what they are. They're not trying to protect kids. They are not anything other than political. Nobody in this country hates Denny Hastert. I've maintained for a long time that if you're going to portray somebody as a creep, they better look like one, and they better have some history you can point to that shows them as a creep. They try to make Denny Hastert an evil devil, and he's not. He's the most nondescript figure, other than his size, patrolling Washington. Nobody ever sees the guy! Despite his stature. So they're out there trying to portray this guy as the epitome of evil, a guy who didn't care if kids were abused, or set upon by a predator. And it doesn't work because even when you see Denny Hastert for the first time, it just doesn't work. Just doesn't connect. All these evil, rotten things that they're trying to say about him don't stick 'cause it's not true, and it's obviously not true.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

I want to go back before we get to the phones to this Foley business and this Washington Post story today because as I read the Washington Post story you come to the conclusion that there were at least two Democrat operatives who were shopping the e-mails, not the instant messages, the e-mails, and one of the sources for this is Harpers magazine in a story by Ken Silverstein. Now, Silverstein said that his source was a Democratic operative, the same source that had provided the e-mail exchanges to the St. Petersburg Times in November of 2005. Now, this is October 2006, 11 months ago. All these things were being shopped around, folks, 11 months ago. Both the magazine and the paper declined to publish a story, but the source was not working in concert with the national Democrat Party, Silverstein added.

This person was genuinely disgusted by Foley's behavior, amazed that other publications had declined to publish stories about the e-mails, and concerned that Foley might still be seeking contact with the pages. But a second source emerged, still reading here from the Washington Post, second source emerged however, just last month peddling the e-mails to several other publications, including the Washington Post. And Brian Ross of ABC News has stressed that his initial source was a Republican. The way I'm reading this story, you come up with two Democrat operatives who are out there, for whatever reasons they want to state, who knew of the story. I find it a little interesting that the Silverstein here at Harpers says, well, yeah, it wasn't working in tandem with the national Democrat Party, he was just really upset that Foley might still be doing this stuff. He was concerned about the children. Really?

Well, why shop it to the media? If you had this stuff for a year almost now, you sat on it, why shop it to the media? And then, when the media doesn't run with it, you just forget it? If you're really concerned about the churrin, the media doesn't do what you want, why don't you go to Hastert then? Why don't you confront Foley if you're really concerned about this? I mean, this stuff is starting to blow up in their faces and backfire, and it's something that was almost foreseeable the way they were playing it. Anyway, let me just give you the timeline here in this story, that Silverstein writes in Harpers, because they say they were given Foley's e-mails by Democratic operative months ago. Ultimately they, the magazine, along with these Florida newspapers, decided not to run a story about them. The Drive-By Media, however, now is drilling the Republican leadership for not doing anything about Foley, when many of them decided not to expose him, either?

I mean, that's the best way to sum this up. We had a bunch of Democrat operatives out there claiming to know about this, trying to stop it with their friends, the media, getting no support, now all of a sudden, for all this time, Democrats have been denying they had anything to do, "First I've heard of it, never seen it, nope, don't know anything about it, first I heard of it was in the paper," blah, blah, blah. Now they dump on Hastert for not doing anything about it, when Democrats have known for almost a year.

21 posted on 10/12/2006 5:49:16 AM PDT by Libloather (*Bubba & *Hillary - hardly innocent until proven completely guilty...)
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To: TexKat

"Rather than trying to shift the blame on me, those who are employed by these House leaders should acknowledge what they know about their action or inaction in response to the information they knew about Mr. Foley prior to 2005."

Sound very defensive!


22 posted on 10/12/2006 5:53:54 AM PDT by SeeSalt
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To: TexKat

Having a GAY guy as Glodal AIDS Cordinator is like having as SMOKER head the American LUNG Assoc. I am so sick of GAYS.


23 posted on 10/12/2006 5:57:02 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Is Scott Palmer gay also??

I can't say. I don't know. Perhaps it will all come out in the wash!

24 posted on 10/12/2006 5:57:47 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggief

Clearly Fordham is in a jam --- He's toast.


25 posted on 10/12/2006 5:58:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Fordham will squeak out because he's GAY and a Pub basher.


26 posted on 10/12/2006 6:00:16 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: worst-case scenario

Both Oscar and Felix were formerly married.


27 posted on 10/12/2006 6:04:35 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

Well, Palmer's roommate is married, although his wife makes "rare" DC appearences and doesn't stay with her husband when she's in town.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/02/just_ran_into_jean_hastert_wif.html


28 posted on 10/12/2006 6:20:30 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Libloather
This oughta grab everybody's attention: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee down on South Capitol Street-----headed by Rahm, to help Democrats get elected----- has in "intern program" and an intern coordinator.

Makes you wonder whether unsuspecting donors to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee knew where their donations were actually going.

29 posted on 10/12/2006 6:26:23 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: TexKat

I wonder if the FBI is looking at Kirk Fordham's bank/investment accounts to see if he received any large deposits recently.


30 posted on 10/12/2006 6:44:58 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: Liz

The Intern Program is for the benefit William Jefferson C. ----- to guarantee that he will pay them a visit from time to time.


31 posted on 10/12/2006 6:50:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Suzy Quzy; windchime; maggief; tobyhill; Uncle Chip; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; ...

Rogers Calls California Rep. Dreier a Gay Hypocrite, Promises More Names Soon

10/12/2006 10:19:00 AM

To: National Desk


WASHINGTON, Oct. 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Mike Rogers, president of Proud of Who We Are and the nation's top gay activist blogger, last night reported that U.S. Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) is a gay hypocrite, during an evening drive-time radio interview on KABC in Los Angeles. He promised to name another closeted gay member of Congress and a U.S. senator shortly. The entire interview may be heard at http://www.ProudofWhoWeAre.org

Appearing on the Al Rantel Show, Rogers spoke of Dreier's secret life with a boyfriend, Brad Smith, who remains his highly paid congressional chief of staff. He said the pair took over two dozen trips worldwide and lived together for years, while Dreier cast a string of votes in Congress against gay rights, and supported the Republican Party's anti-gay crusade.

"There are an awful lot of gay men in the closet who are in positions in power who make unhealthy psychological decisions," Rogers said in the interview, referring to the recent Foley scandal.

Rogers asked why Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman has remained silent when his party is under attack over the number of closeted gay men in the highest echelons of the Republican Party.

"What are their real family values, these guys engaged in a cover-up of predatory behavior?" Rogers said on-air.

"When folks like James Dobson (of Focus on the Family), and when folks like Tony Perkins (of the Family Research Council), see what's going on, it's not motivating them to be part of the program that's designed by Ken Mehlman, who is silent about gays stuck in the higher echelons of the Republican Party," he said. "Why isn't he speaking out on behalf of his party? This is going to affect them a great deal. They know that, and they're running scared."

Rogers promised to name at least one U.S. senator and one more member of Congress, as Proud of Who We Are continues its recently launched campaign to tell right-wing leaders of other closeted gays in the Republican Party they are being asked to support on Nov. 7.

"The presence of David Drier and other high-powered, closeted, gay Republicans stands in stark contrast to the rigid, hardened opposition by socially conservative activists to anyone who is gay," Rogers said following his radio appearance.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=74181


32 posted on 10/12/2006 7:36:17 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Hopefully this will backfire on Rogers, et al.

Meanwhile it looks like another threat against Ken Mehlman.


33 posted on 10/12/2006 7:42:54 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief
Capito to vent frustration to ethics panel over Foley
34 posted on 10/12/2006 7:43:51 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
"I served with him for six years, but I was not in any of his committees," she said. "I certainly knew him. But I have no knowledge of his lifestyle or habits or anything like that."

Capito "certainly knew him" but was unaware of Foley's lifestyle? Why is she grandstanding?
35 posted on 10/12/2006 7:54:19 AM PDT by maggief
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To: TexKat
Fordham says he warned house speaker Dennis Hastert's staff three years ago of Foley's inappropriate conduct toward pages.

Did Fordham have any evidence like IMs or E-mails? Did Fordham say my former boss is a pedophile?

36 posted on 10/12/2006 7:58:24 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Those that do not heed the warnings of history....)
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To: TexKat

Thanks for the ping. This despicable human being needs to be brought down!!
Keep me posted today. Hubby is home sick and I might be real busy with other work as well.

Thanks,
Pen


37 posted on 10/12/2006 8:10:19 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: TexKat
Dramatis Personae
The American Thinker ^ | 10-03-06 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/04/2006 7:41:36 AM EDT by Renfield

Steve Gilbert of Sweetness & Light uncovers a very interesting item from the Washington Blade, a gay newspaper, about Mike Rogers and John Aravosis, who have come under scrutiny elsewhere as possibly involved in the black blog stopsexpredators.com. Rogers had posted about Foley on his own site Blogactive. They let their mouths run a bit to a friendly rag.

Rogers said the outings have picked up steam — from 13 documented offices to nearly 20 currently on a target list provided by Rogers to the Blade.

In addition to Tolman, Rogers and Aravosis, working in tandem but not together, claimed in the last week to have outed via the Web Democratic Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland and Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Florida…

Aravosis said he obtained the latest information about the five-term congressman from Foley’s former chief of staff, Kirk Fordham.

Steve gathers some other damning evidence,

it seems very probable that one or all of the gentlemen mentioned in this article have had a hand in the recent revelations about Mark Foley.

It is equally likely that one or all of them is behind the anonymous website, StopSexPredators.blogspot.com, that first produced Foley’s alleged emails out of the blue.

Michael Rogers started his own website, blogactive.com, back in July of 2004.

Oddly enough, there was a significant drop-off in his activities there after July of this year, which is when StopSexPredators.blogspot.com was begun.

and

in his latest post at Blogactive Michael Rogers shows he has to Mark Foley’s IM account.

The FBI is investigating the case. They have the power to put these people under oath. I hope they are already using it.

Thomas Lifson 10 03 06

Is Gay Activist Michael Rogers Behind The Foley “Outing”?

Blackmailed Senator - Not outed yet 10-12-06

Outed Hill staffer condemns campaign    July 09, 2004

Mikulski and Foley become newest congressional targets as FMA vote nears

Aravosis continued to defend the outing campaign.

“An acquaintance of mine, a Southern Republican, worked for a member who was not anti-gay personally, but he signed on to the amendment [banning gay marriage],” Aravosis said. “My friend quit. I’m basically saying, ‘You know what, you have a choice. It’s 2004. You can work for pro-gay Democrats, and now you can work for pro-gay Republicans.’”

Top GOP Staffer Forced Out for Role in Page Scandal

Fordham, resigned after questions were raised about his role in the handling of the congressional page scandal, according to Republican  sources on Capitol Hill.

Those sources said Fordham, a former chief of staff for Congressman Mark Foley, had urged Republican leaders last spring not to raise questionable Foley e-mails with the full Congressional Page Board, made up of two Republicans and a Democrat.

"He begged them not to tell the page board," said one of the Republican sources.

 

 

38 posted on 10/12/2006 8:13:06 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: TexKat

I've got news for Rogers: "This is old news".

The people have known that David Dreier is gay for years. Is Rogers living in a pink bubble? He's shooting his wad off right now and it is nothing more than spitballs. Soon he will be irrelevant if he isn't already.

"Dreier cast a string of votes in Congress against gay rights, and supported the Republican Party's anti-gay crusade."

Rogers is irked because Dreier and Foley could not be blackmailed into backing the gay agenda.


39 posted on 10/12/2006 8:19:00 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TexKat

When is Rogers going to publish the List of gays who work for the Democrats. Hmmmm? Where is that List????? It's probably longer than Hillary paper trail to Watergate.


40 posted on 10/12/2006 8:23:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: windchime

Gay Senate staffers come out for new caucus (Gay)

New group cites FMA as key reason for forming GLASS

By ADRIAN BRUNE
Friday, May 07, 2004


As he approached Capitol Hill on the evening of April 28 for a gay and lesbian reception, Chris Barron expected to eventually find it in a cloistered corner of the Russell Senate Office Building with little pomp or circumstance.

But climbing the stairs to SR-385 with the other 50 or so attendees, Barron, the legislative director of the Log Cabin Republicans, noticed the stately flags adorning the large, paneled doors. Walking through them, he saw gay Hill staffers and their supporters — including several members of Congress — mingling over drinks in a decorous room with vaulted ceilings typically reserved for key Senate hearings.

As he entered the inaugural event for the Gays, Lesbians & Allies Senate Staff (GLASS) Caucus, Barron said he knew gay staffers had prominently arrived in some of the nation’s most important halls.

“I remember coming up, I thought ‘Where exactly will this be tucked away,’” Barron told a buttoned-down contingent of federal employees. “Then I saw Room 385, and I didn’t think it could possibly be here. But it is.

“We have come a long way. It is extremely courageous and important what you’re doing by just standing here.”

For more than a decade, a gay and lesbian professional association has met regularly on the House side of Congress to raise the visibility and awareness of gay congressional employees. Inspired by that group’s success and prompted by the Federal Marriage Amendment, two staffers — a young man from a voluble Democrat’s office, and a long-term administrative director for a conservative Republican — decided to establish a sister organization across the Hill.

GLASS co-founder Lynden Armstrong, an employee of Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.), said that he has received significant support for the GLASS Caucus from members, including his own, who backed the FMA, but is “supportive of my professional development as an employee.” However, Armstrong acknowledged that many other Republican staffers “have been reserved about getting involved.

“When they see that it’s not an activist organization, I believe they will be more inclined to join,” he said.

No political or federal organization keeps statistics on the number of gay men and lesbians currently working for Congress. Those who have publicly come out say they believe the numbers are much higher than estimated, and that many gay staffers still fear termination or ostracism if they declare their orientation.

“There are hundreds of gay and lesbian staffers here; it’s just a matter of letting people know there is a supportive network,” said Mat Young, the Democratic half behind the GLASS Caucus and a legislative aide to Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.). “They need to know that they can be openly gay and still have a successful career in Congress.”

While appearances by Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), as well as progressive Senators Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and Mark Dayton (D-Minn.) lend legitimacy to the GLASS Caucus, they don’t speak for the other senators with a history of intolerance.

Over the past decade, several have publicly indicated their refusal to hire gay or lesbian staffers, including Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.), according to Capitol Hill newspaper, Roll Call. Others have made other disparaging remarks, comparing homosexuality to kleptomania in the case of former Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) in 1998, and equating it to bigamy and incest, as Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) did in a 2003 Associated Press interview.

http://www.washblade.com/2004/7-9/news/localnews/outed.cfm


41 posted on 10/12/2006 8:26:59 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
I wholeheartedly agree with Foley's statement to The Advocate that is excerpted and highlighted below.... whatever the individual's sexual preference.   Maybe I'm just old-fashioned.

Gay community analyzes Foley resignation

In 1996, The Advocate, a gay newsmagazine, outed Foley. During his 2003 run for U.S. Senate, several Florida newspapers reported the old Advocate story. Foley has never publicly said that he is gay. On May 23, 2003, he called a news conference and said that the innuendo about his life was "revolting and and unforgivable" and that he would not discuss his sexual orientation.

"Elected officials, even those who run for the United States Senate, must have some level of privacy," Foley said during a half-hour conference call with newspaper reporters from across Florida . "My mother and father raised me and the rest of my family to believe that there are certain things we shouldn't discuss in public. Some of you may believe that it's old-fashioned, but I believe those are good ideals to live by."


42 posted on 10/12/2006 8:28:55 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Fordham said he can demonstrate that he warned Hastert chief of staff Scott Palmer about Foley's approaches to male pages in 2002 or 2003. Palmer denied the warning took place.


43 posted on 10/12/2006 8:52:52 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

check out Mike Rogers post today:

http://blogactive.com/

LOL..he knows the FBI is on to him and he is trying to deflect!
His 'internet consultant' is not important....but his links to an internet provider on Capitol Hill are!!

Man....what a web of tangled deception.


44 posted on 10/12/2006 8:56:59 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: maggief

Gee, I knew my softball coach, but didn't know he was a KILLER!


45 posted on 10/12/2006 8:57:45 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: penelopesire

Key Figure In Foley Case To Testify

Former Top Aide Says He Warned Hastert's Office About Foley As Early As 2002

WASHINGTON, Oct. 12, 2006

CBS/AP) Investigators are questioning witnesses in the House page scandal whose information could potentially sink Republicans trying to maintain a congressional majority.

The testimony Thursday of former Rep. Mark Foley's chief of staff, Kirk Fordham, will directly question the truthfulness of Speaker Dennis Hastert's top aide.

Fordham said he can demonstrate that he warned Hastert chief of staff Scott Palmer about Foley's approaches to male pages in 2002 or 2003. Palmer denied the warning took place.

Hastert's aides said they first learned of an overly friendly Foley e-mail to a former page in the fall of 2005 — and never knew about sexually explicit messages to others until late last month when they became public.

The scandal continues to chase Hastert on the campaign trail. Democrats have suggested there's been a cover-up.

On Wednesday, President Bush gave Hastert words of support.

"I appreciated Speaker Hastert's strong declaration of his desire to get to the bottom of it," the president said at a White House news conference. "And I want to make sure we understand what Republicans knew and what Democrats knew in order to find the facts. I hope that happens sooner than later."

The FBI is also investigating, trying to determine whether any crimes were committed by Foley.

On Wednesday, agents interviewed former page Jordan Edmund, now 21.

CBS News has learned that Edmund told the FBI he had limited contact with Foley as a page in 2001 and 2002, but that after Edmund left the page program Foley began e-mailing him.

They met in person twice, including for dinner in San Diego in 2002. They went to Foley's hotel room but Edmund told agents he left after about 20 minutes and nothing untoward happened, CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reports.

While the ethics committee will try to learn who's telling the truth, the court of public opinion appeared to be moving against the Republicans, who hold majorities in the House and Senate.

Polls show most Americans say the House Republican leadership worried more about politics than the safety of teenage pages. However, most also say Democrats would not have handled the situation better.

Several polls also show a split on whether Hastert, R-Ill., should step down, with just under half of those surveyed saying he should. More than half in several polls said Hastert tried to cover up what he knew about Foley.

Next week, the committee is to hear from Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., whose testimony also will raise questions about how GOP leaders handled the Foley problem. A former page he sponsored from Louisiana received friendly e-mails from Foley that were not sexually explicit but raised questions about Foley's motives.

The former page contacted Alexander's office about Foley in fall 2005. Foley, R-Fla., had asked the boy's age — then 16 — and his birthday. Foley also requested a photo.

There is no dispute that Alexander's chief of staff, who also will be questioned, called Hastert's office. This, according to a report by Hastert, was the initial notification that something was wrong.

Last spring, Alexander mentioned the Foley situation to House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. Alexander said Boehner referred him to Rep. Tom Reynolds, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Republican campaign organization.

Both Boehner and Reynolds said they spoke with Hastert, who says he cannot recall those conversations and raised questions about whether they occurred.

Boehner initially quoted Hastert as telling him the Louisiana page's complaint "had been taken care of."

Boehner has also been "invited" to appear before the ethics subcommittee and is "looking forward to meeting with them," Attkissson reports.

Another key figure, Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., chairman of the board overseeing the page program, is to testify under oath to the ethics committee Friday, said Shimkus spokesman Steve Tomaszewski.

Foley resigned Sept. 29 after his sexually explicit instant messages to former pages became public.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/12/politics/main2084565.shtml


46 posted on 10/12/2006 8:59:06 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Hastert's office better get ahead of this thing...and FAST!! Where is Freah? Who all has been called to HIS OFFICE so far?


47 posted on 10/12/2006 9:24:26 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: windchime; maggief
In other news:

Lawyer: Gov't workers got fake diplomas

48 posted on 10/12/2006 9:28:19 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: penelopesire

Shimkus to testify before ethics panel

POSTED: 10/12/2006 10:06 am

COLLINSVILLE, Ill. (AP) - Republican Congressman John Shimkus from Collinsville says he'll gladly testify before the House ethics committee about his handling of electronic messages related to the congressional page scandal.

Shimkus says he has nothing to hide, and he tells the St. Louis Post-Dispatch he'll appear tomorrow before the committee.

That panel isn't only investigating former GOP Congressman Mark Foley's inappropriate and sometimes salacious electronic messages to former pages, but whether House officials covered up Foley's come-ons.

Shimkus heads the board overseeing the page program.

He says he had no reason to suspect Foley further when he questioned the Republican last year about suspicious e-mails.

Shimkus says he'll cooperate with an F-B-I investigation separate from the congressional inquiry.

http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=5530839&nav=1sW7


49 posted on 10/12/2006 9:32:02 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Congressman John Shimkus, R-Illinois, gestures during a phone interview with a reporter. ( J.B. Forbes/P-D)

50 posted on 10/12/2006 9:45:32 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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