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To: beaversmom
Consider the debate over federal funding for embryonic stem cell research...Leaders of the religious right don’t seek a government ban on this area of scientific investigation so long as it’s privately funded—they only want to avoid tax-payer support and the societal endorsement that comes with it.

On this point the question is, why don't the social conservatives favor a total ban, not only on private embryonic stem cell research, but on all private scientific or fertility treatment related uses of human embryos that result in the destruction or discarding of such embryos? If these embryos are human persons as valuable as you or I, why don't social conservatives believe they are deserving of legal protection?

By the same token, opposition to same sex marriage doesn’t involve any effort to block or penalize private gay relationships, but merely a desire to stop the governmental sanction and support involved in state backed matrimony.

But many social conservatives support sodomy laws, which prohibit gay sex, as well as many forms of heterosexual sex. Many also support government crusades against adult pornography, strip clubs, sex toys, and "indecent" television and radio programs. These positions are directly contrary to the libertarian sensibilities that tend to predominate among economic conservatives.

Medved is misrepresenting quite alot in this article. The divide between social and economic conservatives is very real.

6 posted on 10/13/2006 1:24:53 AM PDT by BearArms
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To: BearArms
Medved is misrepresenting quite alot in this article. The divide between social and economic conservatives is very real.

And very polarizing, as I suspect the upcoming elections will show. A lot of wishfull thinking going on in this writers article. The out of control spending by our compassionate social conservative administration leads one to consider changing the term social conservative to socialist conservative. And talk about your nanny staters...Who would protect us from ourselves if not the religous right...Perhaps today if the President signs the Gambling is a Sin Bill, they will prevent us from sinning by playing online bingo...After all, who needs Jesus Christ when you can just get Government to outlaw sin.

8 posted on 10/13/2006 2:57:30 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: BearArms
On this point the question is, why don't the social conservatives favor a total ban, not only on private embryonic stem cell research, but on all private scientific or fertility treatment related uses of human embryos that result in the destruction or discarding of such embryos? If these embryos are human persons as valuable as you or I, why don't social conservatives believe they are deserving of legal protection?

Pro-lifers generally would support such a ban... but with abortion available up until birth, protecting embryos is not even close to being on the table right now. So it doesn't constitute a wedge issue.

But many social conservatives support sodomy laws, which prohibit gay sex, as well as many forms of heterosexual sex.

I would say that very few social conservatives care much for sodomy laws. Many criticized the Lawrence vs. Texas decision, for instance, not out of a desire for sodomy laws so much as disgust over the judicial intrusion of one's sexual likes and dislikes into the Constitution.

Many also support government crusades against adult pornography, strip clubs, sex toys, and "indecent" television and radio programs. These positions are directly contrary to the libertarian sensibilities that tend to predominate among economic conservatives.

Most are only interested in protecting children from inadvertent exposure to these things, for the same reason that we have laws against walking down the street nude. Almost nobody cares what you do in your house.

11 posted on 10/13/2006 12:54:35 PM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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