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Dark times ahead for chocolate
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-14-2006 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 10/13/2006 5:17:54 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam
Based on the article and the comments on this thread, I think I will amend my previous statements speculating on the next target of the drug warriors and nanny-state activists.

Any substance with this large of a following needs to be regulated and taxed to the extreme.

51 posted on 10/13/2006 7:22:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Blackirish

Rats! I could only get about 22 of them by myself.


52 posted on 10/13/2006 7:33:30 PM PDT by Ignatz (Click your mouse three times and repeat, "There's no place like 127.0.0.1")
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To: McGavin999
Scharffen Berger 70% you can find it at www.scharffenberger.com

*whimper*

I used to be able to find that at the local natural foods store...now I'm in a new area and haven't found it. Which is probably a good thing. DANG it's good stuff!

53 posted on 10/13/2006 7:36:34 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head

Cadbury's milk chocolate made in Britain is lovely but I do not like Hersey's version of Cadbury's or Hersey's own milk chocolate.


54 posted on 10/13/2006 7:48:38 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: snugs
PING...is it true, snugs????

Yum. Ohhhhh...dark chocolate is my fav---the ONLY way to eat chocolate!!!


55 posted on 10/13/2006 7:52:08 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: McGavin999
I have some 75% in the fridge just tasted some that is quite bitter but I would be able to eat quite a bit of it. To me it has a very coco taste
56 posted on 10/13/2006 7:55:24 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: Thinkin' Gal
No way it is because of report that it is better for you than milk chocolate.
57 posted on 10/13/2006 7:56:26 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: blam

Bernard Callebaut Chocolate is the best in the world... He was not nominated worlds best chocolatier two or three times for nothing...

Hard to find in the USA, easy to find on the web, and expensive... but damn well worth it!!!!!!!!!!

At the bottom of the list, Hersheys!!!!!!!!! Never eat any chocolate that the manufactorer refers to its product as 'candy'. Real chocolate is NOT candy!

Damn, now I want some BC chocolate...


58 posted on 10/13/2006 8:06:37 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: blam
My wife bought me one of these five pounders for my birthday a couple of years ago:

It took me a while to eat it, but I did (not me in the photo, BTW).

I prefer the Special Dark, but any chocolate is good chocolate...

:)


59 posted on 10/13/2006 8:10:24 PM PDT by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: McGavin999
Scharffen Berger 70% you can find it at www.scharffenberger.com

It is an excellent chocolate but I heard that Hershey bought them out. That could be bad...

Their Nibby Bars are their best product.

60 posted on 10/13/2006 8:10:54 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: blam

I'm south of Seattle, near Tacoma. Would love to find a place to get nibs.

But since I ain't got any, when I eat chocolate, about 2-3 times a week, it's always the darkest, most expensive I can get. There's place near here called "Chocolate Art" and they make some really incredible stuff. Cashew clusters in dark chocolate... yummmmmmm.......

I love to eat a piece of dark with a really hot cup of black coffee.


61 posted on 10/13/2006 8:15:39 PM PDT by djf (There is no such thing as "moderate muslims". They are all "silent supporters!!")
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To: Mike Bates
Anyone else here try CocoaVia?

Guilty here. Surprisingly good for a mainstream domestic product.

I just finished a Droste's Superior Extra Dark 75% Cocoa. Highly recommended. 14% "Daily Value" Dietary fiber, 60% (ouch!) Saturated fat. Well, I was only finishing yesterday's bar, before I had 4 squares of Trader Joe's Bittersweet with Almonds...

62 posted on 10/13/2006 8:25:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: CommandoFrank

Actually, Hershey has some 70% chocolate that is pretty good. It's not their regular waxy stuff, they have one that even has blueberries and chopped almonds that is out of this world.


63 posted on 10/13/2006 8:34:28 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: twigs

http://www.hersheys.com/products/details/sugarfree.asp


64 posted on 10/13/2006 8:34:32 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Revolting cat!

Sounds like health food I need to try.


65 posted on 10/13/2006 8:35:06 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: CommandoFrank

I guess my tastes are very simple because I love a plain old fashioned Hershey bar. Nestle's chocolate is too sweet and the more expensive chocolates just don't do it for me. Snapping off a chunk and letting it melt in the mouth is the best way to pass the time while I'm working in the afternoon.


66 posted on 10/13/2006 8:35:45 PM PDT by Tiny ("The Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, its stranger than we can imagine." Einstein)
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To: blam
(standing at the podium in front of a crowded audience)

My name is albee...and I am a chocaholic!

It has been nearly three hours since I devoured my last chocolate bar. (applause)

67 posted on 10/13/2006 8:40:47 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: Tiny; McGavin999

A long time ago I used to like Hersheys but once you have the best, you realize Hersheys is a candy and not chocolate.

It is worth the wait. I haven't had any (BC chocolate) for quit a while and I'm ready!

I just went back and added the (BC chocolate) so no one would misunderstand what I was saying, haha. Talk about setting yourself up...


68 posted on 10/13/2006 8:48:57 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: blam

I splurge on organic 65-85% cacao chocolate. No Hersheys for me and most of the regular companies put artifical ingredients in them.


69 posted on 10/13/2006 8:50:56 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: blam

Going a tad off topic here, but can anyone recommend a good website to order gummy type candy products, i.e. Twin Cherries, Gummy Strawberries, etc.?


70 posted on 10/13/2006 8:53:39 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam
a very fine product...
71 posted on 10/13/2006 8:54:49 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: mass55th

What about Cadbury Flakes??? Mmmmmmmm... You can find them at Cost Plus in the USA.


72 posted on 10/13/2006 9:13:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Ditter

I get migraines too, but have never had any after eating my chocki. If chocolate did give me migraines I'd give it up completely. Known migraine triggers for me as far as foods go are MSG and alcohol. I wish I could drink more.


73 posted on 10/13/2006 9:15:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: what's up

Yum. I had a tour through the Lindt factory in Zurich once. The SMELL alone was worth the trip. They did not give out any samples at the end, though -- you had to buy them.


74 posted on 10/13/2006 9:17:03 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: stripes1776

Ghirardelli. I don't see anything on the label about Dutch. It is the G-d awfulest stuff I have ever eaten.


75 posted on 10/13/2006 9:26:09 PM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: Colorado Buckeye
My reason for this maneuver is simply because of a study of islanders who drank a nasty brew of dark chocolate as a main staple and had little or no high bp and little or no heart disease.
76 posted on 10/13/2006 9:28:23 PM PDT by groanup (Limited government is the answer. What's the question?)
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To: Yaelle
I have finally gotten to the point (66 yrs) where I don't have migraines anymore. Hormonally I am past that and I know all the triggers and avoid them. I was always a cheap date and could never have more than one drink. When it got to the point that a half a glass of wine (or any alcohol) caused an immediate headache, I stopped even pretending to drink. I hate it when all my friends are tipsy and I get to be the designated driver. But I like NOT laying in a dark room in pain.
77 posted on 10/14/2006 6:38:14 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: groanup
My reason for this maneuver is simply because of a study of islanders who drank a nasty brew of dark chocolate as a main staple and had little or no high bp and little or no heart disease.

I'm interested in learning more about the health benefits of chocolate and hope to look into the matter more in the future. A year or so ago, I heard a guy on a health oriented talk radio show talking about this. It's been awhile so my memory may be off, but I think he advised eating organic cocoa beans. There was lots of talk about bioflavanoids and antioxidants. In any event, he wrote a book and I don't remember the title but I think I wrote it down somewhere. I'm on my fifth 2 inch three ring binder of health notes and if I can find the information, I'll post it to you.

As for the broader issue of cardiovascular disease including the syndrome-X diseases such as type-2 diabetes, I think that they should be rare and not common as, in fact, is the case. I'm not a medical professional but I've been studying the issues of health, medicine, and nutrition, motivated by self interest, for almost five years now.

What most Americans, including most doctors, don't know is that what they are eating, and not eating, is slowly killing them. The typical diet not only contains very unhealthy substances such as hydrogenated fats, but is also deficient in essential nutrients such as the omega-3 fats.

About the islanders that you referred to, the chocolate they consumed was probably good for them, but don't overlook the likelihood that the fats in their diet were undoubtedly different than those in yours. Being islanders, they likely ate a lot of fish which is rich in omega-3's for example.

78 posted on 10/14/2006 9:02:33 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: groanup
Ghirardelli. I don't see anything on the label about Dutch

If the label says nothing about Dutched or alkalized, then it isn't. It has the antioxidants that are beneficial.

I do know that Lindt, a Swiss manufacturer of chocolate, bought Ghirardelli a few years back. A lot of Lindt's dark chocolate products are alkalized, as are most European dark chocolates. That may be why I get a headache when I eat them. I don't get that reaction from Ghirardelli or Hersey's dark chocolates.

79 posted on 10/14/2006 10:15:05 AM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


80 posted on 10/14/2006 6:27:03 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (If you know that i and j are the same number, you might be a nerd too.)
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To: Salamander

Thank you. I guess my husband will have to find sf dark chocolate in this stocking this year. He deserves it!


81 posted on 10/15/2006 3:42:52 PM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs

Here's an early Merry Christmas to somebody who must be a really sweet guy.....;)


82 posted on 10/15/2006 4:19:45 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: stripes1776
Try Nestle's new "Chocolatier" chips and chunks available in the baking goods aisle.

53% and 62% cacao content, depending on which version you get.

*bliss*.....;D
83 posted on 10/15/2006 4:24:16 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: blam

Milk chocolate for me. Can't handle the dark chocolate, it makes me break out in pimples like a teenager. The Hershey nuggets with the toffee chips in it are really good, and so is Dove chocolate.


84 posted on 10/15/2006 4:37:51 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Salamander
Try Nestle's new "Chocolatier" chips and chunks available in the baking goods aisle.

Okay. Nestle is another Swiss company. The Swiss do like their chocolate.

85 posted on 10/15/2006 4:48:50 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776

I did not know that it was a Swiss company.....8-O

[and you'll love them...they taste so fresh and natural...there's very few ingredients in them and no "dutch" or "alkali" in sight]


86 posted on 10/15/2006 5:37:44 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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