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It's Not Only Foley in the Race to the Bottom (Follow the $$$)
Harper's Magazine ^ | October 13 | Ken Silverstein.

Posted on 10/13/2006 7:24:53 PM PDT by PghBaldy

The story I posted Tuesday on the media's role in the Mark Foley scandal generated an enormous number of emails. The lion's share contained stimulating, illuminating insights such as “You really are full of sxxx.” But among the several hundred messages I received, a few merit a reply...What's more interesting is that some of that money started coming in late last year—around the time that the Foley emails were given to reporters in Florida—

(Excerpt) Read more at harpers.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: elaineschuster; foley; foleygate; geraldschuster; johngorman; johntishman; mahoney; tejassecurities
There are BIG developments in this, IMO. It says that in that pre-scandal safe seat, Dems were throwing money at Foley's opponent. Out of state donors too.
1 posted on 10/13/2006 7:24:54 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

It's so obvious, I don't know why noone else thought of looking at the records for what Foley's opponent got, and when. Thank you Harper's...


2 posted on 10/13/2006 7:26:41 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy

As in they were giving money ahead of time (pre-scandal) becuase they knew something was coming?


3 posted on 10/13/2006 7:27:06 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Even the nicest pug has an evil twin.)
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To: PghBaldy
It's Not Only Foley in the Race to the Bottom

No! Bad copy editor! Bad! Bad!

4 posted on 10/13/2006 7:28:36 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Promise him anything...but give him our page.")
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To: PghBaldy

Is the media involved in a Conspiracy.?

I wouldnt put it past them.


5 posted on 10/13/2006 7:31:10 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: PghBaldy

The Democrats very clearly had this in their dirty tricks bag and waited until the time was right.

Most, not all, Republicans are way past the point where we care about sexual orientation. Pedophiles are a different matter, but there's no evidence Foley was doing that in a physical way.

I wish the story would die. He's gone. No apparent crime commited. Enough already


6 posted on 10/13/2006 7:32:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

It will, soon after the election. And Reid, if there is to be a story, will start right after!


7 posted on 10/13/2006 7:38:05 PM PDT by raftguide
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To: K4Harty

That's what it looks like. It was a very safe seat, and 100s of thousands of $$$ were thrown at the challenger, including by people who run cos so big (That Tejas thing) I've heard of them. Seems odd to throw money at a safe seat unless you knew something was up.


8 posted on 10/13/2006 7:38:54 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy

"The donors include major Democratic donors like John Gorman of Austin-based Tejas Securities, the New York-based construction mogul John Tishman, and the Massachusetts-based real estate tycoons Gerald and Elaine Schuster..." I've heard of Tejas Securities & John Tishman. I would assume they are savvy with their money. Could be significant.


9 posted on 10/13/2006 7:42:09 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy
Well the writer is still a DNC shill...... but at least he has stirred himself to check the campaign donations for Mahoney, and the pattern is FAR more curious and disturbing than Silverstein acknowledges...... I'm curious whether there would be ANY other case(s) of what seemed to be such an obviously "safe" Republican seat getting such major out-of-state donations, obviously steered by the DNC-types. Why on earth would supposedly savvy wealthy donors throw hundreds of thousands of dollars down the toilet, unless they "knew" the seat would be in play?

"I checked campaign-finance records and found that Mahoney himself provided about half of that amount. But he also pulled in $80,000 from heavily Democratic labor-union PACs and raised about $455,000 from individual donors. What's more interesting is that some of that money started coming in late last year—around the time that the Foley emails were given to reporters in Florida—and some of Mahoney's biggest donors were from out of state. The donors include major Democratic donors like John Gorman of Austin-based Tejas Securities, the New York-based construction mogul John Tishman, and the Massachusetts-based real estate tycoons Gerald and Elaine Schuster, who have a history of anti-labor and slumlord practices. These campaign-finance records certainly suggest that Democrat officials expected Foley's seat would be in play and quietly steered donors in Mahoney's direction."
10 posted on 10/13/2006 7:51:05 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Enchante

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_ind/2005_H6FL16059

GORMAN, JOHN AUSTIN
TX 78746 12/28/2005 2100.00 TEJAS SECURITIES GROUP INC/CHAIRMA 26970040647
GORMAN, JOHN AUSTIN
TX 78746 12/28/2005 2100.00 TEJAS SECURITIES GROUP INC/CHAIRMA 26970040647
GORMAN, ROBERT FORT PIERCE
FL 34948 02/23/2006 250.00 SELF/LAWYER 26950051202
GORMAN, TAMRA AUSTIN
TX 78746 12/28/2005 2100.00 NONE/HOMEMAKER 26970040647
GORMAN, TAMRA AUSTIN
TX 78746 12/28/2005 2100.00
TISHMAN, JOHN BEDFORD
NY 10506 06/13/2006 2100.00 TISHMAN REALTY AND CONSTRUCTION CO 26940258567
TISHMAN, JOHN BEDFORD
NY 10506 06/13/2006 1100.00 TISHMAN REALTY AND CONSTRUCTION CO 26940258567
TISHMAN, JOHN NEW YORK
NY 10103 02/03/2006 1000.00


11 posted on 10/13/2006 8:25:34 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy
Image hosted by Photobucket.com

do I really have to say it???
12 posted on 10/13/2006 8:26:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: PghBaldy

Here's just John Tishman, real estate mogul for 1/1/2005- 10/13/2006 :
Contributions to Political Committees

TISHMAN, JOHN
NEW YORK, NY 10103
TISHMAN REALITY/EXECUTIVE

MAHONEY, TIMOTHY EDWARD
VIA TIM MAHONEY FOR FLORIDA
02/03/2006 1000.00 26950051235

CONRAD, KENT
VIA FRIENDS OF KENT CONRAD
03/31/2005 1000.00 25020130261

MIDWEST VALUES PAC (MVP)
02/28/2006 5000.00 26990336498

KLOBUCHAR, AMY
VIA KLOBUCHAR FOR MINNESOTA
06/28/2006 1000.00 26020462115

MORRISON, JOHN
VIA MORRISON FOR MONTANA INC
08/22/2005 1000.00 26020112937

DUCKWORTH, L. TAMMY
VIA FRIENDS OF TAMMY DUCKWORTH
06/29/2006 1000.00 26930236062

DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
03/11/2005 25000.00 25020182465

KENNEDY, EDWARD MOORE SENATOR
VIA KENNEDY FOR SENATE 2006
02/11/2005 1900.00 25020142636
02/11/2005 2100.00 25020142635

DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
03/24/2006 25000.00 26950086353

DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
10/25/2005 1700.00 25020511364
03/17/2006 24700.00 26020292130

COMMITTEE FOR A DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY
09/13/2005 5000.00 25971354872

SECUREUS
06/27/2005 5000.00 25970768728

MADRID, PATRICIA A
VIA MADRID FOR CONGRESS
03/06/2006 1000.00 26960060333

WHITEHOUSE, SHELDON II
VIA WHITEHOUSE 06
06/29/2006 2000.00 26020463380

BYRD, ROBERT CARLYLE
VIA FRIENDS OF ROBERT C BYRD COMMITTEE
09/30/2005 2100.00 25020402243

MAINE DEMOCRATIC STATE COMMITTEE
05/31/2006 5000.00 26960152949

Total Contributions: 110500.00


13 posted on 10/13/2006 8:35:28 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: devolve; PghBaldy; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; bitt; Smartass; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; abb; ...

14 posted on 10/13/2006 8:52:26 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch

Nice picture. Foley was forced to resign before most people even knew who he was. It is stunning how different Repubs & Dems are. When I was a lib, I wanted Clinton to resign. I thought he was disgraceful.


15 posted on 10/13/2006 9:19:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: potlatch


Classic!

Already has some kudos I see!


16 posted on 10/13/2006 9:28:46 PM PDT by devolve (playing:___FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE___Mary McCarthy--)
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To: devolve

I kinda liked their names!


17 posted on 10/13/2006 9:31:16 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: PghBaldy

Thank you. The dems seem to get away with anything.


18 posted on 10/13/2006 9:32:17 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch


Yes

Well chosen names

That graphic flows well

Then the large "picture" leaps out at you



19 posted on 10/13/2006 9:50:11 PM PDT by devolve (playing:___FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE___Mary McCarthy--)
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To: devolve

I cut out that frame and forgot to save it as it was before putting on that graphic!


20 posted on 10/13/2006 10:01:18 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch


That one "GREIDY" frame?

I can break it down in a sec


21 posted on 10/13/2006 10:19:01 PM PDT by devolve (playing:___FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE___Mary McCarthy--)
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To: devolve

No you can't on that. That's not what I meant.
I cut out the FRAME from the background.

In the program you can size it to any size and I forgot to save it before putting it on the background and saving as a whole.


22 posted on 10/13/2006 10:22:13 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch




  MONEY   HONEY  



23 posted on 10/13/2006 10:26:59 PM PDT by devolve (playing:___MONEY HONEY--Hairy Reid)
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To: PghBaldy

That is what I thought as well. It was the beginning of the end of me being a Demonrat.


24 posted on 10/13/2006 10:34:55 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: devolve

That is a beautiful post!


25 posted on 10/13/2006 10:35:08 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch


Brit Hume could get some comments if he closed with that and the music!

I like it better moving the text down like that

That color I cannot miss!



26 posted on 10/13/2006 10:40:34 PM PDT by devolve (playing:___MONEY HONEY--Hairy Reid)
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To: Dog Gone

"Most, not all, Republicans are way past the point where we care about sexual orientation.

What!?

Most conservatives I know do care about a person's sexual deviancies.


27 posted on 10/13/2006 10:46:10 PM PDT by stultorum (dont hire illegal aliens)
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To: devolve

LOL, you need neon green on your comments page! And maybe neon orange for the checked ones.


28 posted on 10/13/2006 10:46:55 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Enchante
"These campaign-finance records certainly suggest that Democrat officials expected Foley's seat would be in play and quietly steered donors in Mahoney's direction."



Also, don't forget Mahoney was a registered Republican until early to mid 2005. It was Rahm Emmanuel who then convinced him to switch over to the RATS party.
29 posted on 10/14/2006 1:37:41 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: Dog Gone

"I wish the story would die. He's gone. No apparent crime commited. Enough already"

I think we all wish that, but the LSM is not going to let it die and whether we like it or not, it is having a huge impact(according to some polls) on this election.

SO I SAY FIGHT BACK and EXPOSE THE REAL SCANDAL BEHIND THIS STORY:.....THE DEMS!!


30 posted on 10/14/2006 5:44:06 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire
There is no doubt based upon what you discovered that Foley was tracked for just the purpose of OFFENDING the profiled 'morals voters'. Further with the supposed hunt for dirty details about heterosexual playing around seems to signal there is more raw data ready to be passed around.

There is that internet service provided for the Congressional Club (spouses of Congress).
31 posted on 10/14/2006 5:58:56 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I am afraid so...but the bigger scandal(if true) will be Dems WIRETAPPING ON CAPITOL HILL...but being against WIRETAPPING TERRORISTS....lol

If it goes where it smells like it goes...it could be bigger than Watergate and it has dem hands all over it!


32 posted on 10/14/2006 6:08:19 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire
Ah yes. But you see, they (deviser's of the 'spying') are counting BIG TIME that enough people will be turn OFFFFF by the 'dirty talk' that everybody that is anybody will hope and pray it will just go away.

Wonder now alllll those critical leaks about national security, say means and methods of tracking terrorists dollars, or CIA secret interrogation centers, to name a couple, came from 'staffers' computers?????

I am reminded of 'able danger' contracted out to gather intel. So how many other agencies contracted out to data mine during the Clinton years?

The perfect scandal these liberals have devised, few seem to be curious how it is the emails and IM's could have been collected and sprinkled out over time until the appointed time to DUMP is set.

I wonder what details are hidden in Richard Clarke's book, he was the cyber security, go to guy under the Clintons.
33 posted on 10/14/2006 6:23:01 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

"I wonder what details are hidden in Richard Clarke's book, he was the cyber security, go to guy under the Clintons."

or what details are hidden in Berger's pants......lol


34 posted on 10/14/2006 6:30:25 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire
Personally, I think Berger's mission was to retrieve anything that had 'HRC's' initials or attribution attached. Once they got their 9/11 Commission named and funded the 'data' had to be filtered.
35 posted on 10/14/2006 6:33:01 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: PghBaldy

Hey P,


FYI,
Hospital: Former Rep. Studds dies at 69
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Obit_Studds.html


36 posted on 10/14/2006 7:16:58 AM PDT by AliVeritas (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.)
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To: PghBaldy

Oops, here:

Hospital: Former Rep. Studds dies at 69

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


BOSTON -- Former U.S. Rep. Gerry Studds, the first openly gay person elected to Congress, died early Saturday at Boston Medical Center, a hospital official said. He was 69.

Christian Kiriakos, central administrator at the hospital, said Studds died between 1 a.m. and 2 a.m. He did not have additional information, and details of Studds' death could not be immediately confirmed.

Studds, a liberal Democrat who spent more than 20 years in Congress, was censured by the House in the 1980s for having sex with a 17-year-old male page. He was re-elected for several more terms.

Last year he married his longtime partner, Dean Hara, in Boston.


37 posted on 10/14/2006 7:17:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.)
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To: stultorum
I disagree. I don't care about anyone's sexual orientation. I don't even want to think about it.

As long as it's not blatant or accompanied with an agenda of forcing me to accept or respect it, it's not an issue with me.

I don't want to know whether my parents still make whoopie. That kind of stuff is just not my business and I don't want to even think about it.
38 posted on 10/14/2006 7:39:44 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

I agree with you to a certain extent. However, it has been pounded into us for so long that we can't question someone's sexual orientation, that when obvious signs of vulnerability or questionable conduct arise, the natural track to a comfort level is to turn away and not become involved...

and that obviously is not a good thing. The Dems would have screamed if the GOP censured him, and the Dems now scream because the GOP did NOT censure him....


39 posted on 10/14/2006 10:22:50 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: AliVeritas

Thank you. I saw that. It will be interesting to see how much his crime(s) are mentioned in the media. From what I gather, he got a kid drunk and raped him (at least that's what I call it).


40 posted on 10/14/2006 11:54:00 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy; All

Police Find No Report of a Foley Dorm Incident
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1719541/posts


41 posted on 10/14/2006 5:33:34 PM PDT by AliVeritas (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.)
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To: penelopesire

Yes. The story needs to be addressed and not given up to the Democrat controlled media.


42 posted on 10/14/2006 5:41:30 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: AliVeritas

Thank you. That was one story I basically ignored. I'm glad I did.


43 posted on 10/14/2006 5:44:23 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: PghBaldy

I agree. I raised this question when I found out about Foley's opponents huge war chest, and that John Kerry had been scheduled to campaign for him the Saturday after the story broke.


44 posted on 10/14/2006 5:52:53 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Enchante

Exactly! What other safe seats for Republicans have an opponent getting huge dollars? If we can find those, we will know where they are going to spring more "surprises."


45 posted on 10/14/2006 5:54:42 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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