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GOP Firing Back?
IBD ^ | Oct. 13, 2006 | IBD

Posted on 10/13/2006 8:50:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion

As Democrats refuse to let up on former Rep. Mark Foley, some Republicans are returning fire. But they'll have to do a lot more fighting back if they want to win on Election Day.

Time and again Democrats prove themselves to be ferocious street fighters, especially in campaign season. When they get hit, they instinctively hit right back.

For instance, it was more than 15 years ago that Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., was reprimanded for violating House rules to help his "roommate" Stephen Gobie, who was running a male prostitution service out of Frank's Washington apartment.

Democrats didn't make Frank resign, which Foley did instantly. And they certainly didn't cower or become paralyzed.

The brazen, unapologetic Frank remains in Congress, and will become chairman of the House Financial Services Committee if the Democrats gain control.

But lately, we must say, the GOP has been showing some grit:

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., gave it to his possible 2008 presidential foe, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., after she blamed North Korea's nuclear test on the Bush administration.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; no; toolittletoolate
The best defense is an offens. The Republicans need to fight back decisively.
1 posted on 10/13/2006 8:50:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Well I'm sick of them backfiring.


2 posted on 10/13/2006 8:51:51 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: FairOpinion

I wonder why the Harry Reid scandal isnt all over the place? :\ hmmmm


3 posted on 10/13/2006 8:57:12 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

The problem is that the Dems can fight the Republicans and the MSM goes out of their way to help them.

Republicans try to fight Dems, and the MSM buries the news.


4 posted on 10/13/2006 9:00:48 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
On Yahoo's main page...

• U.S.: Test points to N. Korea nuke blast
• Buffalo hit with early snowstorm; 3 die
• Shiites push for British troops to leave
• Mexican leftist faces fresh defeat on home turf
• Fla. Democrats attack Foley election day notices
• Vatican archives give insight into Pope Pius XII
• Hollywood hopes to appeal to 'faith-based' fans
• MLB Playoffs · NFL · NHL · NCAAF · NBA · Golf

Yea... no agenda here... and Reid no nowhere to be found...
Still Foley and trying to suppress the religious vote...

5 posted on 10/13/2006 9:01:38 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
I wonder why the Harry Reid scandal isnt all over the place? :\ hmmmm

Nothing has happened yet, and I'm not holding my breath.

The lack of action on the Reid scandal underscores the need for the Republicans to take back the White House and the Executive branch. If Republicans were in charge of the Justice Department and the FBI, that lying, thieving scumbag Sandy Berger would never have gotten away with a slap on the wrist for stealing and destroying classified documents from the National Archive, and the FBI would be on Harry Reid like flies on dog feces, yes sir. It's absolutely imperative that the Republicans take back the White House so that this kind of corruption can be prosecuted to the fullest....

Oh, wait-a-minute.... Nevermind.

Sometimes it all seems like such a friggin' waste of time.

6 posted on 10/13/2006 9:03:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
I agree the Justice Dept. and the State Dept. have been WAY to weak. just recently did they label Adam Gadan sp? as a traitor... that should have been done a long time ago.
although under a democratic leadership it would have never been done.. :\
7 posted on 10/13/2006 9:07:15 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

sorry democrat* leadership


8 posted on 10/13/2006 9:08:05 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Lancey Howard

The republicans had better grow some spines here post haste!


9 posted on 10/13/2006 9:08:17 PM PDT by Mojave Mark (The Democrats... gravitas free since '63)
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To: FairOpinion

As a part of the Republican's offensive, they need to illustrate how the msm helps the democrats. Rub it up both their noses.


10 posted on 10/13/2006 9:09:22 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: Echo Talon

I'm glad that Mueller remembered that we has a word 'treason' still available, however I think he just raised the bar to qualify for it. JMO.


11 posted on 10/13/2006 9:11:06 PM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: Current Occupant

has=have sheeesh.


12 posted on 10/13/2006 9:12:06 PM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: Echo Talon

Today when asked about how Foley could change the results of the elections Tony Snow could have said..."there's bad on both sides... Nixon Nearly got impeached, Clinton got impeached, Foley stepped down due to accusations, there are accusations about Reid's shady dealings..."

But he didnt


13 posted on 10/13/2006 9:12:29 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: FairOpinion
The Republicans need to fight back decisively.

I'm beginning to think that they don't have the 'nads to do so.
14 posted on 10/13/2006 9:13:06 PM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: All

It's no secret that he media is pro-democrat. But during live press conferences, republicans could atleast throw in the information about Reid, Sandy Berger...etc.


15 posted on 10/13/2006 9:14:18 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: MaineVoter2002
"there's bad on both sides...

True...but the consequences are totally different.

16 posted on 10/13/2006 9:14:57 PM PDT by evad (sarcasm may be introduced at any moment of any post)
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To: Lancey Howard
Sometimes it all seems like such a friggin' waste of time.

I hear you.

I don't vote for Republicans as much as I vote against democrats and their media propogandists.

17 posted on 10/13/2006 9:15:10 PM PDT by Ceebass
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To: Echo Talon

It seems so much easier for journists to hit that (R) key than to hit the (D) key.

When a Democrat does something crooked or embarassing, they often forget to hit the (D) completely.


18 posted on 10/13/2006 9:15:59 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: MaineVoter2002

thats true... we do have a hand and seem to not be playing it...


19 posted on 10/13/2006 9:16:21 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: evad
True...but the consequences are totally different

Ofcourse they are. The democrats are not afraid to expose the republicans. The republicans sit back and say nothing about the democrats. If they would mention it on live TV, atleast it would get out there.

20 posted on 10/13/2006 9:17:28 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: donmeaker

I have noticed that, sometimes they seem to forget to publish the article...(which seems like the major problem)


21 posted on 10/13/2006 9:18:25 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: All

Months ago Rush Limbaugh said that he hopes it's not true but it appears that the white house totally depends on his show and others on Talk Radio to get out their message rather than have their own attack machine. Rush said, if true, it's a big mistake on their part.


22 posted on 10/13/2006 9:21:45 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: no dems
I'm beginning to think that they don't have the 'nads to do so.

Beginning? I cant recall the last time they fought back effectively. They let the MSM set the agenda and they go on defense. One of the best things they can do in the next couple weeks is take on the obvious bias they recieve when they are on these cable and Sunday shows, putting the talking heads in their place.

I'm not holding my breathe though.

23 posted on 10/13/2006 9:22:11 PM PDT by capydick (Not to know is bad; not to wish to know is worse.)
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To: capydick
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25 posted on 10/13/2006 9:27:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: MaineVoter2002

Basically that's what The Great One said today also when asked by a caller "why aren't the pubbies fighting back"? He said why should they, we're doing it for them.

I expected a little better answer but he's probably saying it as it is.


26 posted on 10/13/2006 9:28:13 PM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: capydick

They could have been out there thursday and friday making public Reid's shady deal...it may have replaced Foley during the sunday talk shows.

Sunday night is another anti-republican 60 minutes book.

That will be the talk of the town most of next week if the liberal media has its way. And they probably will.


27 posted on 10/13/2006 9:30:06 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: MaineVoter2002

I think Tony Snow has changed all that.


28 posted on 10/13/2006 9:40:27 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: FairOpinion
Republicans try to fight Dems, and the MSM buries the news.

One Republican makes one retort and that's it. The Republicans have no coordinated game plan. Democrats find some filth and plaster it in the media for weeks. We wimper and moan and just take it.

29 posted on 10/13/2006 9:42:27 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: cibco
I think Tony Snow has changed all that

Great! I'll be watching all the sunday morning shows where Reid is exposed, then.

30 posted on 10/13/2006 9:42:29 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: Lancey Howard
Short answer:


31 posted on 10/13/2006 9:43:38 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64
The Republicans have no coordinated game plan

Exactly. It's a shame. No excuse for it. No reason this election should be as close as it is now.

32 posted on 10/13/2006 9:43:47 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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To: FairOpinion

The DBM won't drive by in the case of Harry Reid. The story will be pushed only when they determine that it is sufficiently damaging. They won't just throw it out there and repeat it over and over to see if anything sticks the way they did with Foley.

The more we learned of the Foley case, the less incriminating it was in that Foley seemed to hold off on the raunchy stuff until the (former) pages were 18 years old. If Brian Ross knew that in the beginning, he conveniently buried it to ensure that the story would be as salacious and damaging as possible.


33 posted on 10/13/2006 9:45:57 PM PDT by carola
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To: MaineVoter2002
And they probably will.

Yup. Amazing how we know what needs to be done and they dont. It looks like they've given up already.

By they way - we love skiing @ Saddleback in Maine - great family mountain.

34 posted on 10/13/2006 9:53:57 PM PDT by capydick (Not to know is bad; not to wish to know is worse.)
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To: FairOpinion
Republicans need to have platform to run on instead of just ducking for cover from the pointing fingers of Dems.

Leadership!

Lower taxes, control borders,Let our Soldiers do thier job, ETC!

Stop trying to make nice with the MSM.

35 posted on 10/13/2006 9:58:49 PM PDT by right way right (Voting for woosies in November)
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To: stickywillie

Jab, Jab, Jab...The Dems are soft on terrorism and have no plan..jab: they will raise your taxes on all income groups and will undo the tax reforms that have benefitted millions of families: they want to eliminate the estate tax so that once again the mom and pop businesses will have to be liquidated rather than passed on; they want to eliminate the $2500 Child Tax Credit....Jab: they have no plan on Korea..Cut and run is not a plan...Jab: they criticize a pubbie congressman for a major indiscretion while their House Speaker is making a million $ profit three years after he sold the land ! Dem speaker says he'll just amend his filing. That doesn't resolve the crime !Then same House Speaker calls on pubbies House Speaker to resign over whether he knew or didn't know about the other congressman's indiscretion!..Jab: the Dems would rather leave a dictator in office than help free a country from oppression, then they turn around and cry about 'human rights' ...Jab: Sandy Berger steals files and destroys documents and admits it. Dems are silent !..Mad ALLbright loses 2 Laptops containing national security information...Dems: silence...HRH Hillary says she has the answers--at the next news conference...NO PLAN...Dems cannot win on hot air and fumes..They are out of gas..no plans..no vision..Knock 'em out on election day !


36 posted on 10/13/2006 10:17:34 PM PDT by billmor (Let each become all he is capable of being... a SUNY motto)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Democrats didn't make Frank resign, which Foley did instantly. And they certainly didn't cower or become paralyzed.

AND THAT IN A NUTSHELL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES.

THE REPUBLICANS MAKE THEIR CROOKS QUIT WHEN THEY GET CAUGHT.

THE DEMOCRATS SAY 'SHOVE IT' AND REVEL IN THEIR CORRUPTION.

38 posted on 10/14/2006 1:35:22 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: FairOpinion
My response to the Foley thing is pretty brief:

When the news came out about Foley no Republican supported Foley and Foley resigned immediately. Unlike what the Democrats did when a president abused an intern in the oval office and assaulted other women. Unlike what the Democrats did when a queer member of Congress had sex for hire running out of his house. Unlike what the Democrats did when a Senator and former KKK member said the word "ni**er" on national TV. Unlike what the Democrats did after a drunken US Senator left a woman to drown to death after he ran his car off a bridge.

The Republicans have never said that they have better "values" than the Democrats They don't have to. It's as obvious as the roaring silence you hear from millions of humans that have been aborted.

Sure, the Republicans are not perfect. But would any thinking American want the Democrats to protect this country in time of war when the Democrats will stand by silently or even support sexual abusers, queers, racists, drunks and murders in their own party?

39 posted on 10/14/2006 7:41:15 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sliding butt stock, carry handle, gas operated. Named after a horse. What am I?)
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To: FairOpinion

In retaliation Hillary! and Co. swiftboats McCain ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1719306/posts

Privately, Hillary’s camp was not overly upset by the McCain swipe because it suspected he was doing the bidding of the White House and that he ended up, as one adviser put it, “looking similar to the way he did on those captive tapes from Hanoi, where he recited the names of his crew mates.”


40 posted on 10/14/2006 7:45:48 AM PDT by maggief
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To: FairOpinion

Well I wholeheartedly agree, but let's not forget the fact the Republicans have TWO enemies to fight back against: The Democrats and the Drve By Media. In that regard, if the DBM decided simply to not air Republican grievences or statements it would appear that the Republicans aren't fighting back.

That is in fact happening.

We members of the New Media, of which Free Republic is part, need to hold bothe the democrats and DBM accountable.

The DBM says there is no bias. OK. Then right now is a good time to then ask them, if so, are they going to report at length about the current Democrat Minorty Leader of the Senate Harry Reid's direct ethics violations (after all, he even ADMITTED he was wrong by offering to pay a fine!) as much as they have about Mark Foley, who resigned more than two weeks ago?


41 posted on 10/14/2006 7:49:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: billmor
...while their House Speaker is making a million $ profit three years after he sold the land !

Senate Minority Leader, not House Speaker. And Nancy Pelosi is the Minority Leader of the House, not the Speaker. There's only one speaker, Denny Hastert. He got the job becuase a majority of the House voted for him (meaning all Republicans).

42 posted on 10/14/2006 7:52:25 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: FairOpinion
One of the scariest things that has happened in my lifetime is that Kerry came as close as he did to being President of the United States. That a fruitcake like Kerry was even in contention is like the monster jumping out of the closet.

The whole country should have shuddered in fear, should have been awakened to the real world.

During the Clinton years the republicans showed what they are made of, and the whole lot of them should have been replaced with men and women of integrity and backbone.

The true traitors are the republicans who give it away, fearful of defeat, their personal advancement their highest cause.

The demorats are slime but they are true to their nature. They are mud dwellers who are proud to have Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy and the Clintons at the head of their parade.

The democrats need a bath. The republicans need a spine; both the voted in and those who do the voting.

Or, maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe all of us are mud dwellers. Maybe there are some who have higher aspirations but basically still live in the muck, building little mud castles of virtue and honor and nobility but unevolved enough to put into practice what they hear in their hearts.

It has been said that you shall know them by their fruits, and we do, but we are lacking in the faith and courage to act on what we know.

Rush had a nice piece yesterday on trusting yourself to be and do who you are instead of living under the weight of others' opinions.

This is the greatest sin of the republican/conservatives; trying to appear nice rather than striving to be good.

43 posted on 10/14/2006 8:25:27 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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