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Ultimate Yuppie Device
10/15/06 | self

Posted on 10/15/2006 9:00:31 AM PDT by tomzz

I've got a cell phone which is trying to die and have just ordered a replacement from Ebay, but I've held off spending any more than just over a hundred dollars because the thing I'd really like to have doesn't exist yet, which is a crying shame since nothing in the way of nonexistant hardware would be required; it would be a pure systems integration project.

I'm hoping somebody who sells or markets consumer electronics ends up reading this.

What I'd like to have would be a cell phone, PDA, GPS, and navigation device rolled into one thing with Dragon voice recognition software built in so that I'd not need a pet squirrel or mouse to operate a squirrel or mouse sized keyboard on the road. Squirrels don't travel well in cars.

That should be doable with today's PDAs and flash memory sticks. The first time Dragon software worked believably was in the late 90s when they first got PC chips over about 250 mh, and I have to believe that today's PDAs have at least that much compute power. The device should have about 8 gb of memory storage and a minimal version of some operating system which can run minimalistic gui apps. It would have to have some keyboard capabilities such as you see on advanced cellphones, but the main data entry would be via Dragon voice software, using the same mike which the cellphone uses.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: cellphones; electronics; gps; pda
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1 posted on 10/15/2006 9:00:32 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz

I think that it is sold in the same aisle as the photon torpedos and the flux capacitors.


2 posted on 10/15/2006 9:02:07 AM PDT by Axhandle
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To: tomzz
Thats too much Beeber you'll get Stunned
3 posted on 10/15/2006 9:02:08 AM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: tomzz

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.


4 posted on 10/15/2006 9:02:12 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: tomzz

If they give it to you all at once you only pay once.


5 posted on 10/15/2006 9:04:52 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: tomzz

Unless you're Methusalah's age, you'll probably live to see this wish fulfilled. But not for a while yet.


6 posted on 10/15/2006 9:06:47 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: tomzz

I want mine in blue, please. And it can't weigh any more than a paperback romance novel.


7 posted on 10/15/2006 9:06:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: tomzz

I guess you missed all the PDA/cell phones with VZ navigator capabilities?

Or do you own stock in Dragon and just want to do a vanity?


8 posted on 10/15/2006 9:08:09 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 ( Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English)
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To: tomzz

This is a great idea

I'll get right on it


9 posted on 10/15/2006 9:08:11 AM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: tomzz

If it doesn't have a built-in time machine, it's not worth it.


10 posted on 10/15/2006 9:08:47 AM PDT by SIDENET (Is it too early for flapjacks?)
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To: Tax-chick
And it can't weigh any more than a paperback romance novel.

Off topic for a moment...yesterday saw a Discovery Channel doc on Lance Armstrong and his hi-tech equipment. The bicycle manufacturer held up a frame and said it weighed the same as a small paperback.

11 posted on 10/15/2006 9:10:31 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: tomzz

All I want to know is...where's my flying car?


12 posted on 10/15/2006 9:13:36 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Ezekiel 25:17)
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To: tomzz

...and don't forget diabetes, lumber moisture, pregnancy and AIDS test modes.


13 posted on 10/15/2006 9:14:12 AM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: tomzz

I want a small PDA sized keyboard that will fit in my shirt pocket, the display would be "heads-up" in my glasses that contain an ear piece and swing down mouth piece. This would be my portable PC, cell phone, GPS, etc.


14 posted on 10/15/2006 9:16:54 AM PDT by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: ErnBatavia

That's amazing! I'll bet it costs about as much as my house.


15 posted on 10/15/2006 9:17:12 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: tomzz

However, if someone would make the ultimate anti-Yuppie device, an ultra-simple cellphone for seniors, they would sell a gazillion of them.

For there are huge numbers of people who neither want nor need confusing gizmos, instead who want simplicity adapted for the poor visioned and hard of hearing. They don't even need an LCD screen. They want a phone like what phones used to be.

Larger than a normal cellphone for arthritic hands, with a loud ring. Big, easy to read buttons, 15 of them, and three switches. 12 dialing buttons, a redial, hold, and HELP button with a safety switch, so it isn't pushed by accident. An on-off switch, and a ring-mute switch. The last thing it has is a power strip from green and yellow to red, so they can easily tell when it needs charging.

Have a charging stand so they don't have to futz with wires.

And on the inside of the cellphone, have a piece of paper with important phone numbers written in it.


16 posted on 10/15/2006 9:20:08 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: JoeSixPack1

Typing is the fastest thing I do in life and I'd have no use for Dragon software on a normal computer with a normal keyboard. Nonetheless I've set up Dragon software for friends who don't type including friends in NY who speak pure Brooklynese, and the Dragon software even works flawlessly for them, as if they had a secretary translating from Brooklynese to English as she typed.


17 posted on 10/15/2006 9:20:12 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz

No video camera and laser pointer?


18 posted on 10/15/2006 9:20:42 AM PDT by null and void ("It is better to look ahead and prepare than to look back and regret."--Jackie Joyner-Kersee)
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To: tomzz

With simple voice commands there many on the market now. Any high end PDA. I can run a power point prestaion from mine and it's 5 years old. Dragon is the only part not ready last year. The GPS is a cf insert and it gives voices directions using mircosoft streets. But mine is 5 years old, no phone. no blue tooth.


19 posted on 10/15/2006 9:22:34 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Real men use spell check!)
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To: tomzz
The Baker's, the folks that started Dragon, have just scratched the surface as far as voice recognition. I understand that they have a lot more up their sleeves.

It only makes sense that voice recognition will become a bigger deal until the devices can be directly linked in to your brain:)

20 posted on 10/15/2006 9:23:00 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sliding butt stock, carry handle, gas operated. Named after a horse. What am I?)
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To: tomzz
as if they had a secretary translating from Brooklynese to English as she typed.

Wow!

Will it translate political blovation into English as well?

21 posted on 10/15/2006 9:23:02 AM PDT by null and void ("It is better to look ahead and prepare than to look back and regret."--Jackie Joyner-Kersee)
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To: null and void

Political bloviation has no content, so you'd just get a blank page.


22 posted on 10/15/2006 9:24:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: null and void
Vid camera, sure; I don't see why you'd need a laser pointer.

To give you an idea of the sort of use you could put such a thing to if it could run applications, a friend had some free airplane tickets and dragged me off to Utah a couple of years ago where they had a late season on cow elks, and we actually saw some cow elks, but the closest we ever got was about 550 yards at about a 12 degree down angle with about a 10 mph crosswind. Obviously, since nobody on the East coast practices anything like that or even remotely like that, we simply chalked that trip up to experience.

Now, there actually are exterior ballistics programs for PDAs, and if we'd had THAT with us, we could have taken the 550 yard downangle shot in the crosswind, and probably made it.

23 posted on 10/15/2006 9:27:10 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: PaxMacian

Or, they sell you crap you don't want.

I'm wierd, but I don't want or need a camera, games, fancy ring tones, the ability to watch tv or listen to music. I don't need it to be ultra small, thin, or made of moon rock. I don't even use text messaging.

I just want it to be able to get and keep a signal most places I go, not have to charge it every day, and sync with my Mac and my address books. That's all.
I'd even give up the sync, ability for the first two.

Or, if you do puta camera on it, make it a USEFUL camera, like the ones you can get in Japan. The ones we get here are useless, take up far too much battery power, and clutter up the phone.

I'm tired of devices trying to do everything, but can't do simple things well.


24 posted on 10/15/2006 9:29:07 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: tomzz
I am so happy with my device that just makes phone calls.

Don't need a camera, already have those.
Don't need Internet on my phone, can't FReep while driving.
I don't need GPS. I just make a call and my wife is more than happy to tell me where to go.
I don't need text messaging. My wife never gets laryngitis.

25 posted on 10/15/2006 9:30:03 AM PDT by sinclair (Democrats, it's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc.)
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To: Tax-chick

Good point.


26 posted on 10/15/2006 9:31:48 AM PDT by null and void ("It is better to look ahead and prepare than to look back and regret."--Jackie Joyner-Kersee)
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To: TADSLOS
All I want to know is...where's my flying car?

Your flying car is currently for sale on eBay. The latest bid is just over two million dollars for the M400X Skycar VTOL Prototype Aircraft from Moller.

Better act fast! Less than four days are left before the bidding closes.

27 posted on 10/15/2006 9:32:09 AM PDT by dpwiener
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Now, there actually are exterior ballistics programs for PDAs, and if we'd had THAT with us, we could have taken the 550 yard downangle shot in the crosswind, and probably made it.

Not unless you also had a laser rangefinder.

As ranges get longer, they get harder to estimate, and bullet drop per yard gets higher and higher.

28 posted on 10/15/2006 9:33:23 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: sinclair

So that's where my ex went...


29 posted on 10/15/2006 9:33:41 AM PDT by null and void ("It is better to look ahead and prepare than to look back and regret."--Jackie Joyner-Kersee)
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To: tomzz

If you're from Brooklyn, please, just stay there.
Use the subway map and forget the GPS.


30 posted on 10/15/2006 9:37:41 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 ( Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English)
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To: Popocatapetl

That does exist. I heard a blurb about it last week. Check Clark Howard's website. I think it is marketed in Canada at the moment.


31 posted on 10/15/2006 9:50:13 AM PDT by doodad
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To: CurlyDave
>Not unless you also had a laser rangefinder.

Those are cheap now, and everybody has em.

32 posted on 10/15/2006 9:51:09 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: gorush
"...and don't forget diabetes, lumber moisture, pregnancy and AIDS test modes."

What? No tire gauge? Everything should have a tire gauge on it.

33 posted on 10/15/2006 10:01:39 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: tomzz
I've got one, right here.


34 posted on 10/15/2006 10:06:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Popocatapetl

I'll second that.


35 posted on 10/15/2006 10:16:48 AM PDT by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: tomzz

The device you describe can probably be made with today's technology. Unfortunately, it will be expensive, and hence the market for it will be small. :P


36 posted on 10/15/2006 10:29:01 AM PDT by Frohickey
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37 posted on 10/15/2006 10:29:43 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: tomzz

And small enough to replace your Tongue Stud!

Pray for W and Our Troops


38 posted on 10/15/2006 10:32:44 AM PDT by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Death Wish)
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To: tomzz

You have just about a year or maybe two to wait for your phone. It's on its way.


39 posted on 10/15/2006 10:43:59 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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See these links. What you want is on its way, and sooner than you think:

http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/CA508718.html?text=scansoft&stt=001

http://pcworld.com/article/id,115273-page,1/article.html


40 posted on 10/15/2006 10:47:42 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: gorush

"...and don't forget diabetes, lumber moisture, pregnancy and AIDS test modes."

And a wall socket polarity/ground tester too.


41 posted on 10/15/2006 10:52:42 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: tomzz

I want one of those fitted into the grips of my .45. Why carry more than one tool?


42 posted on 10/15/2006 10:58:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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They want a phone like what phones used to be. >

So you're saying I could make serious dime if I invented the first rotary cellphone?

43 posted on 10/15/2006 10:59:20 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: tomzz
I mean, let me expand on that. You put the speaker in the barrel housing. You already have a couple of switches and buttons to work with so you don't need more.

Your gun rings, you put the barrel to your ear, click off the safety to activate it, and pull the trigger to talk. It'd be a perfectly natural motion.




What?

44 posted on 10/15/2006 11:03:45 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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That's funny. That device has been posted so many times on FR it's ridiculous. The company must be run by democrats. They are the only ones who can't understand that results count for something and not good intentions.


45 posted on 10/15/2006 11:04:44 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Tax-chick
Political bloviation has no content, so you'd just get a blank page.

I suppose the page might come up looking something like this:


46 posted on 10/15/2006 12:02:05 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Bear_Slayer

Eeeeew!


47 posted on 10/15/2006 12:03:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you believe you can forgive, you're right. If you believe you can't forgive, you're right.)
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To: humblegunner
These Guys are a little too hung up on tech stuff.

Ya probably could have put your finger to the wind and brought one of them there cows home for dinner!

Such sissies...LOL

48 posted on 10/15/2006 12:11:14 PM PDT by Syncro (FR Rocks: Walking the Walk With Action and Talk)
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To: Syncro
A set of radios is about as high-tech as we get

Old red truck ain't even got a heater!

49 posted on 10/15/2006 12:29:48 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: tomzz

Don't know about the Dragon voice recognition, but check out Ipaq's hw6940 & hw6945. They seem to have most of the features you are looking for. I am waiting a month or so to see if the price will go down any before I order one.

AND, before anyone asks, I do NOT work for, own stock in, or have ANY relationship to HP other than as a customer.
(Jeez, the disclaimers we have to make around here)


50 posted on 10/15/2006 12:37:32 PM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel
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