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Blogger stays in prison, defying grand jury order [ Josh Wolf ]
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| 10/16/6
| Demian Bulwa
Posted on 10/16/2006 7:43:56 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: oldfart
I agree. I admire him for his stance.
We are all so eager to condemn anyone who is anti-establishment and does things like this, but in the future when the Hitliarites take over, and we see wholesale shutting down of dissident media like Free Republic and WE are the ones who will be jailed for refusing to give the government our sources, we'll remember his example.
Not that I'm claiming that we are the media, we just post on message boards, but there are media among us who, I'm sure, will be arrested and required to give emails, names, address and funding sources of good guys who do things like uncover Dan Rather's fraudulent claims.
The day is coming when all of this crap will be used against anyone who uncovers or objects to government policies and actions.
Ed
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posted on
10/16/2006 12:18:04 PM PDT
by
Sir_Ed
To: oldfart
"It's different when it's "our" ox that's being gored, isn't it?"
Well said
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posted on
10/16/2006 12:22:35 PM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
To: Sir_Ed
Admire him for his stance?
He caught a crime on tape, and he refuses to turn it over to the police. That is accessory after the fact, unless he had forewarning, in which case he is an accessory.
If someone attacks someone, and runs through your kitchen and out the back door, then the cops come in and ask "Did you see anyone come thru here" and you say no, that is a crime.
New technology, same crime.
To: SmithL
Little pantywaist.
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posted on
10/16/2006 12:51:46 PM PDT
by
New Perspective
(Proud father of an 2 year old son with Down Syndrome)
To: SmithL
If he has footage of the situation when the police officer was injured, he should turn it over.
If he doesn't, he should go free.
If he's worried about the police seeing other footage I'm sure there is a disinterested observer that can watch the footage and tell the police whether the footage they want is there or not.
It ain't rocket science.
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posted on
10/16/2006 12:57:03 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: monday
"He is protecting people who tried to kill a man by fracturing his skull."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is still to be determined, isn't it? One side (the government) says they want to know who did this and that information is on the tape, the other says it isn't on the tape and the government just wants to know who was there.
I don't know who's right here and I doubt you do either, but allowing government 'fishing expeditions' into private waters is risky business. Until I know more about the situation I would have to lean toward the side of privacy.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:01:59 PM PDT
by
oldfart
(The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
To: oldfart
This is more akin to him protecting Nazi's, not refusing unjust orders from them.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:02:06 PM PDT
by
statered
("And you know what I mean.")
To: SmithL
Wow. You couldn't get that loser laid in a brothel.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:04:53 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
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To: CougarGA7
I suspect he's getting plenty, now.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:06:09 PM PDT
by
SmithL
(Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
To: SmithL
"getting" being the key word.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:08:10 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
(This tag line will be commercial free for the remainder of this thread.)
To: Sir_Ed
and we see wholesale shutting down of dissident media like Free Republic and WE are the ones who will be jailed for refusing to give the government our sources, we'll remember his example. Josh would be one of those cheering the shutdown of Free Republic.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:10:44 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: All
I don't really want to get too far into this subject since it tends to get too emotional too quickly. Suffice to say that it has been explored many times in many places by many people. In closing (and this will be my last post on this subject,) may I suggest the following:
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/whiterose.html By the way, the people responsible for these pamphlets were all beheaded... quite legally. While I freely admit it does not bear directly on this situation I think it speaks to the blanket appologism of and for government actions.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:36:47 PM PDT
by
oldfart
(The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
To: oldfart
"One side (the government) says they want to know who did this and that information is on the tape, the other says it isn't on the tape and the government just wants to know who was there.
I don't know who's right here and I doubt you do either, "
Oh, but I do know who's right. Using logic I can deduce exactly who is lying and who is not. If the information isn't on the tape, as our stupid little propagandist claims, then that information cannot be used against those who were there, and so knowing who was there would be of no use to investigators.
Since he refuses to show the tape even though he claims it would be useless to investigators, we know that he is in fact lying and that the information would, in fact, be useful towards finding the criminals who assaulted that man.
This is how we know that he is on the side of the violent criminals who tried to murder the victim.
I have no problem with people who protest the government. Politicians in general are wasteful, venal, corrupt, two-faced, lying weasels. I am on the side of anyone who brings attention to that fact, but when you attack someone physically, you go immediately from the side of the righteous to the side of evil, and make no mistake, there is no gray area.
The people who attacked that police officer are evil and deserve to be punished severely. If this guy wants to protect those criminals then he deserves the same punishment as they.
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posted on
10/16/2006 1:38:13 PM PDT
by
monday
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