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Strange bedfellows: Michael Savage Donates to Democrats
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/16/06 | arual

Posted on 10/16/2006 12:52:56 PM PDT by arual

Strange bedfellows: It turns out that ultra-hot conservative talk show host Michael Savage is backing Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown for state attorney general. "What can I say? I think he'd make a great attorney general compared to the other guy. By the way, who is the other guy?'' Savage said, when asked why he chose Democrat Brown over conservative Republican Chuck Poochigian. Savage, whose rants can be heard locally on KNEW-AM, is backing up his hot talk with some hot money as well. Savage Productions, which lists Savage as president and his wife, Janet Weiner, as director, has donated $5,600 to Brown's campaign. "You have to make choices in an imperfect world,'' Savage said. "And this, this Machugian guy. (Like we said, it's Poochigian.) I never heard of him. I don't even know who he is." Poochigian has spent the past 12 years in Sacramento, first in the Assembly and now in the Senate. Doesn't impress the president of the Savage Nation. "Why bet on a horse that isn't going to win? Why throw your money into the garbage?'' So how did the best-selling author of "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder'' wind up backing a liberal once nicknamed "Governor Moonbeam"? "People change. He changed. He has experience,'' Savage said of Brown. "He started the Oakland military academy -- that was a good thing." And Brown's politics? "He's moved to the center, which is what this socialist state needs," Savage said.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: MeanWestTexan
the Dubai ports deal was much ado about nothing. It was a scam designed to make Bush bad by the liberals

Not to insult you, but that is "bot" thinking. Portgate was a national-security issue. it's posible to see it both ways, but Dubai, like many Muslim countries, harbors elements of Al Qaeda and he who controls the manifests controls the ports and what goes in and out of them. While some may have overstated the potential threat there, there certainly was a threat.

BTW, Hannity was on the same side of that issue as Savage. Only Rush defended it. Is Hannity a tool of the Democrats?

251 posted on 10/16/2006 8:48:53 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: MeanWestTexan
You can tell Savage fans are economic morons from the fact that those con-artist "gold coin" companies chose to so heavily advertise on his show.

I know it's ahrd for country-club Republicans to accept, but we'd be far better off in a gold-based economy and with a gold standard.

252 posted on 10/16/2006 8:51:19 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: tubebender
He singlehandedly setback construction for 50 years

Not without a little help from his friends. The infamous Adriana Gianturco.

Talk about set backs. Gianturco singlehandedly set back Italian-American relationships 20 years in California and just when the state was recovering from it's battle with Giannini's little nightmare, B of A.

253 posted on 10/16/2006 8:52:04 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: montag813
All I have heard is some competitive ribbing and ridicule about Rush being a BushBot.

Which isn't entirely fair, but Rush will defend Bush beyond the point where other conservatives such as Hannity will.

254 posted on 10/16/2006 8:52:56 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: NapkinUser
I support a wall on the border to slow down the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants if that is what you're going on about. Don't you?

A wall and an electrified barbed-wire fence, with a deep moat inbetween. Deportation of as many illegals as we can. A beefed-up Border Patrol and National Guard to catch those who are entering our country illegally. An ICE that actually wants to do its job. Stiff penalties on employers, actually enforced, including jail time. But instead, what the Administration wants to give us is the amnesty that dare not speak its name.

255 posted on 10/16/2006 9:01:08 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: Kirkwood
There are some scenarios that should be explored to change the way the war is being conducted in Iraq. It makes little sense to keep going down the road that we're going when it leads nowhere.

To achieve victory, first you must seek it. Are we seekign victory or are we usign the LBJ-McNamara strategy?

256 posted on 10/16/2006 9:04:21 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: Michael.SF.

BINGO!

He always struck me as being an opportunist,... especially when he does that whole "chosen by G-d schtick"! It's equal parts funny and annoying.


257 posted on 10/16/2006 9:04:42 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("I never gave anyone Hell. I simply told the truth and they thought it was Hell!" - Truman)
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To: GOP_1900AD
Sorry Savage, you are 100% wrong on this one.

But right on so many other things. Rush and Sean are wrong on occasion too. So are many others in our movement. What Savage does is say things that most conservaties wouldn't dare say. Sometimes he has me shaking my head, but most of the time I agree with him.

Borders, language, culture.

258 posted on 10/16/2006 9:07:45 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: Harrius Magnus
Savage is like Pat Buchanan: He's wrong a good portion of the time, really wrong. He's also an ignoramus regarding security and economics (as someone else said). When he is right, he can be as entertaining as anyone out there, IMO. I disagree that he is a faux conservative.

Savage and Buchanan are paleocons, mroe like unreconstructed Bob Taft conservaties. The rest of us are more "modern" Goldwater-Reagan conservatives. But I agree with Pat and Michael probably more often than I should.

259 posted on 10/16/2006 9:11:17 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: Dead Corpse

Savage's grasp of economic issues is like... well like... Aw hell, he has no grasp of economics whatsoever.


260 posted on 10/16/2006 9:16:24 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: Checkers
I think Savage's audience is going to have a hard time with his homosexuality.

IF that's true -- and Ibelieve he has talked on the air about his wife and his son (now an adult) -- so what? It's not my concern or my business. WWhy should this upset anyone, even if it is true?

261 posted on 10/16/2006 9:18:32 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: incredulous joe
He always struck me as being an opportunist,... especially when he does that whole "chosen by G-d schtick"!

And I suppose "talent -- so much talent -- on loan from Gawd-a" is just humorous, right? Both are schtick, both can be funny or annoying depending on where you sit. I know enough about talk radio to take schtick for what it is.

262 posted on 10/16/2006 9:21:11 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: S.S. Monkeyface
But that doesn't mean the Republicans are doing a very good job on a lot of things.

Uh..........Isn't that EXACTLY what I said in my post??

Yes, tehy'r better than Dimmycraps, but that is somewhat like being better than cancer. You can have a condition better than cancer and still be pretty sick.

Uh.........okay. So, what are you saying? Vote Deathocrat? Vote Republican??

263 posted on 10/16/2006 9:29:08 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: tubebender; dalereed; Amerigomag; NormsRevenge; Paloma_55
That's absolutely right! He and Gray Davis, his Chief of Staff (infections) set out to not only stop road/highway/freeway building in it's tracks, but to turn it back from the beautiful works Jerry's dad presided over!!! He sold off what would be billions worth of right of ways, today!!!

It was like as if they were ashamed of their nation/state and the miraculous creation of infrastructure Jerry's father presided over in the four most important areas of good government... 1. Public Safety, 2.Water, 3.Roads and 4.Schools!!!

That was the "Golden State" that I admired from my little one room elementary school outside Chicago while taking my California Standard Acheivement test in 1955! CA set the standard for the world in that time. Now it's full of pukin Liberal idiots!!! (Like Jerry Brown!)

I know you know all this, tubebender. I'm reiterating it for the uninitiated, of course.

264 posted on 10/16/2006 9:46:27 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: arual
Savage is an actor and his show has always been an act. Now he proves it.

I suppose his excuse is "liberalism is a disease" and he caught it from Jerry Brown. Doing what???

265 posted on 10/16/2006 9:53:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: MeanWestTexan
PhD are, in my experience, a sure sign that someone can't cut it in the real world.

Like TV's Dr. Phil?

Or Microsoft's Nathan Myhrvold?

Cheers!

266 posted on 10/16/2006 10:25:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: MeanWestTexan
In the process, he falls for the Dim's bait, and used to destroy the conservative movement from within.

You mean he's a young earth creationist? ;-) (see any crevo thread for more on this claim...)

Cheers!

267 posted on 10/16/2006 10:26:33 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: S.S. Monkeyface

"To achieve victory, first you must seek it. Are we seekign victory or are we usign the LBJ-McNamara strategy?"

It is not the LBJ scenario where everything is being run from the top down. Not at all the same. However, it needs to be fought on our terms with strategic goals and not just a series of tactical responses alone. If there is a strategic plan, it is not obvious. From the outside it looks like the conflict has not appreciably changed in the last 12 months. Nor should the political climate in Iraq solely determine our response. There is too much emphasis on trying to contain the situation and keep the Iraqi leadership happy and not enough on simply killing insurgents in huge numbers and plugging the border leaks. Our military should be a killing machine and not a military police force.


268 posted on 10/16/2006 10:30:29 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: lormand

Right right, though I can allow for people who are just fans because there is nothing else to listen to and at time he can be entertaining - though I feel a little ashamed for listening, the same way I did in elementary school for watching short bus kids be escorted into the cafateria for lunch with their head gear on.


269 posted on 10/16/2006 10:31:20 PM PDT by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: vox_freedom
He is a brilliant scientist, I think he just got driven to distraction by living in the Bay Area.

But on the air, he comes across as a Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Cheers!

270 posted on 10/16/2006 10:37:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: tubebender
And then there's this, since then...
271 posted on 10/16/2006 10:44:24 PM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: fishtank

Savage is unbalanced.

Jerry Brown is a nut.

I can see why one likes the other.


272 posted on 10/17/2006 1:13:44 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: L.N. Smithee; NapkinUser

"And you believe Hush Bimbo and Sean Vannity are real conservatives?"

Yes, they are real conservatives, and dont feel the need to bash other talk show hosts like Savage does.

I've wondered if Weiner/Savage was just doing it for kicks.
He rambles sometimes and gets over emotional like he needs meds to stay on track.

Conservative? Because he has some reactionary views!?!?

The most effective real conservative is Rush.
JMHO.


273 posted on 10/17/2006 1:16:57 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: NapkinUser

SO what. I heard Savage say we were in Iraq for oil.
One week.
Then he screamed that we had to nuke Fallujah.
Then he's saying we cant win.
Then he's after Bush for not letting Israel win in Lebanon.
Then's he's bashing Rumsfeld because of the Pendleton 8.


Throwing out nutcase-conspiracy theories one after another.

This is not someone who is giving stable, informed commentary. It's near random ranting.


The constant theme *I* hear is someone who is creating divisions in the Republican ranks, not a coherent unified message. Doing what he cant to make the GOP base rattled, upset, emotional and extreme. Is that helpful? informed? logical? Hardly!

Sure, he understands the muslim threat. But a coherent plan to defeat it? Hardly, when some days he is imitating Michael Moore and bashing Bush.


274 posted on 10/17/2006 1:23:12 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: S.S. Monkeyface
Dubai operates many businesses in this country and Dubai ports did a pretty good job at their facility in Miami.

Of course, Chuck Schumer, who has a congenital hatred of both Arabs and common sense, used this issue to bash the Bush administration and the Cletus Yokel wing ate it up. Yep, we shurrrrreeee showed dem A-rabs, didn't we?

275 posted on 10/17/2006 1:26:20 AM PDT by Clemenza (Lets Go Mets!!!)
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To: RoadTest

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The fact that a person sticks his neck out and tells it the way he sees it doesn't make him a ranter, a wild man or a moron. "

Er, he does when he says one thing one day and contradicts himself the next day. I heard him do it.

I also heard him completely misunderstand a caller and start ranting on him and hang up on him with a stream of insults (the caller was an Arab trying to explain the culture). Pity.

I hear him daily. He has good points but his show is hardly unique ..."This world needs more people who see it as it is and speak out as they see it, and aren't poured into the same mold as everybody else."

Well, Rush fits that description. And alas I cant hear him at that time slot, and Marc Levin's station is too staticy.
But I'd pick both as more informed commentators over Savage if I could.


276 posted on 10/17/2006 1:27:23 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: fishtank

#44--thanks for bringing some perspective to this thread which seems to have descended into aSavage-bashing hate-fest.There are times when Savage is my favorite thing on the radio, and there are times when I can barely listen to him; entire days when he's taken over with apoplectic rage, and screams for half the show, then whole shows when he stays off some of the more aggravating political topics of the day, and just free-form reminisces about his boyhood, his family,etc. He is EASILY the most emotional person with a regular show on the radio. He puts me in mind of my favorite quote, from I don't know who: "No two people are as different from one another as the same person can be from himself at different times". And I DON't blame him for his independent support of Jerry Brown, who at least had a good and practical agenda for Oakland. Let's not forget that this dump on Savage thread ostensibly was about nothing more or less than Savage's own stated support of Jerry Brown.


277 posted on 10/17/2006 1:29:24 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: arual

Savage donation is not surprising.

He is a empty blowhard and his style of relentless bantering and shouting is more suited to Lou Dobbs rather than Rush.

Savage is a Peroite who tries to create disenchantment among Conservatives . This strategy you know helps Democrats, Savage is a threat to the Republic with his indirect support for the liberal Democrats and relentless attempt to create conservative disunity.


278 posted on 10/17/2006 2:07:27 AM PDT by GregH
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To: arual

"And this, this Machugian guy. (Like we said, it's Poochigian.) I never heard of him. I don't even know who he is."




I will give Savage credit for one thing...he is not ashamed to show his ignorance.

That is it though. I turned the guy off a LONG time ago because he rants and raves and occasionally gets something right, but like a broken clock...usually only once a day.


279 posted on 10/17/2006 5:39:57 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: arual

I listen on the drive home, as long as I can handle. No more...he lost me. I rather listen to John and Ken...or to maggot-infested FM music.


280 posted on 10/17/2006 5:46:37 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: NapkinUser

What do you expect from a Party hack/butt kisser...


281 posted on 10/17/2006 6:20:17 AM PDT by Tulsa Brian
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To: clamper1797

That's right. We have plenty of Jerry Brown name recognition here in California. No need for him to have a platform -- Moonbeam is his name, idiocy his game.

I will never vote for JB.


282 posted on 10/17/2006 6:53:16 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: beezdotcom

I've already resigned from listening to his rants:)


283 posted on 10/17/2006 7:00:19 AM PDT by NotADove (If guns kill, then spoons make Michael Moore fat)
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To: grey_whiskers

Dr. Phil would be a perfect example. He's oprah's bitch.


284 posted on 10/17/2006 7:30:06 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: all the best
I've listened to Savage 8-10 times while driving. My impression of him is that he is a miserable person. Unhappy and miserable. I don't even get to the political. Oh yeah, hateful too. And negative. Did I say miserable?

EXACTLY! With a HUGE ego to boot

285 posted on 10/17/2006 7:31:09 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: S.S. Monkeyface

"I know it's ahrd for country-club Republicans to accept, but we'd be far better off in a gold-based economy and with a gold standard."

Keep thinking that, so I can keep getting rich off of idiots like you.


286 posted on 10/17/2006 7:31:15 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: arual

stopped listening to savage about a year ago. got tired of listening to someone who thinks he's absolutely brilliant, way above the rest of us chickens out here.


287 posted on 10/17/2006 7:36:24 AM PDT by ripley
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To: lormand

Wow- I thought I was FR's biggest Savage hater... You went so far as to reference Savage in your tag-line, so you might be almost as big... LOL


288 posted on 10/17/2006 8:05:46 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: elhombrelibre
I think Savage's goal is to undermine real conservatives by acting like a jerk.

He epitomizes every liberal stereotype (of conservatives)... He's the Howard Stern of political talk radio.

289 posted on 10/17/2006 8:30:46 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: NYC Republican
"Wow- I thought I was FR's biggest Savage hater."

I will gladly concede this title to you, and note that I will not turn coat (like Weiner does daily) on you when we are in the trenches fighting the good fight.

290 posted on 10/17/2006 8:35:15 AM PDT by lormand (0 to 10,000,000 people read my posts everyday)
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To: lormand

LOL, thanks... What angers me the most about this guy is that he has a HUGE following... 8 million... and he constantly bashes other talk show hosts, Bush and the GOP, and he IS influential... He's a nutjob, shrill, scumbag SOB in my opinion.


291 posted on 10/17/2006 9:01:14 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: NYC Republican; arual
Check out what arual says about Savage...probably the most plausible explaination I could think of.

"Dr. Savage is a character, invented by an actor, who is making a living off of this persona and laughing all the way to the bank."

292 posted on 10/17/2006 9:15:49 AM PDT by lormand (0 to 10,000,000 people read my posts everyday)
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To: NYC Republican
He's the Howard Stern of political talk radio

I think that honor goes either to Randy Rhoades of Al Franken. However I will cede that Dr Weinie is the Howard Stern of Conservative ... though I don't think he is a conservative ... talk radio

293 posted on 10/17/2006 11:19:07 AM PDT by clamper1797 (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win)
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To: grey_whiskers
Who's a brilliant scientist?
294 posted on 10/17/2006 12:05:39 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

He stopped all the freeway projects and raised taxes. We have never been able to recover - California will never be able to build out our road system, let alone even properly maintain the minimal one we have. Now that we have become a sort of Scandanavia within the US, but one that's overpopulated with low producers, we'll never be able to marshal the funding priorities to take care of the infrastructure. Too many suckers on the welfare teat to ever be able to do that. Moonbeam opened the door to Socialism and even the odd GOP governor has never been able to come close to shutting it.


295 posted on 10/17/2006 3:15:40 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: gaijin

Simply put, Savage flipped back towards being a Leftist about a year or so ago.


296 posted on 10/17/2006 3:17:26 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD
I agree. He used to be funny and have some intersting insights, even if he was a bit over the top. For the last year he's been nothing but a sniveling, bitter blowhard with nothing good to say about anybody other than himself. When he got in bed with Schumer over the Dubai ports deal it was the last straw for me. I hope the local station dumps his sorry ass.

I wonder if he'll revert back to his (alleged) sodomite tendencies as well.

297 posted on 10/17/2006 4:15:15 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: JRios1968

"I listen on the drive home, as long as I can handle. No more...he lost me. I rather listen to John and Ken...or to maggot-infested FM music."

Check out Hugh Hewitt sometime.

Your brain will thank you.


298 posted on 10/17/2006 9:00:37 PM PDT by Checkers
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To: Checkers

I have listened to Hugh...trouble is, KTIE plays Hugh in a weird manner, so I wind up listening to a little of Hugh then Savage comes on at 5PM...


299 posted on 10/17/2006 9:12:11 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: JRios1968
It's been some time that I have posted here. I just wanted to catch up on the latest Savage news since I no longer waste time listening to his show. I read parts of the post about his strange stance initially in the Israel-Hezbollah war during the summer.

This is the smoking gun for me as to what kind of fraud and flake Mikey is. I read the SFGate.com article yesterday about him. Assuming it is true (and I don't have a reason to doubt it), everyone who is a former Infidel has to take notice. The man is only interested in himself an no one else. As well as being around powerful people to have the power they have rub off on him.

Since I live in Oakland, our homicide rate has gone up considerably this year, surpassing previous years. And the new mayor Ron Dellums has yet to even take office yet. Now the current mayor Jerry Brown wants to be Attorney General of the state? What a joke. Another ticket puncher.

That does it. Now I know that everything that I wrote in times past about Mikey is true. The man preys on the gullible and it's only ever about him.
300 posted on 10/18/2006 11:29:39 AM PDT by That Alan Guy (The SAVAGE[D] Nation)
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