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Reid It And Weep
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | 10/17/06

Posted on 10/17/2006 8:02:00 PM PDT by bitt

Scandal: As the FBI raids Curt Weldon's daughter's house, Harry Reid's sons have benefited from their father's influence undisturbed. Meanwhile, Reid puts campaign funds to personal use and seeks a do-over on his ethics statements.

We never cease to be amazed at the double standard applied to the morals and ethics of Democrats and Republicans in Congress. We've already commented on how Republican Mark Foley was forced to resign for sending lewd e-mails to congressional pages, while Democrat Gerry Studds received mere censure and standing ovations after actually having sex with one, being allowed to serve until he decided to retire.

But the case of Senate Minority Leader Reid is a double standard on steroids. The latest episode is his request to file an "amended" ethics statement after the Associated Press revealed he made $1.1 million on a $400,000 investment on property he hadn't owned for three years; it was the subject of an earlier editorial on these pages.

In a statement issued after the AP story, Reid said: "I directed my staff to file amended financial disclosure forms noting that in 2001 I transferred title to the land to a Limited Liability Corporation."

Reid said he agreed to file the amended reports because, "I believe in ensuring all facts come to light." And if you believe that, the senator probably has some oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you.

We've also reported on Reid's questionable involvement and compensation in another Nevada real-estate deal involving lobbyist and developer Harvey Whittemore, who plied Reid with campaign contributions and employed Reid family members. In return, Reid greased the skids for Whittemore, who made millions in profits once inconvenient environmental obstacles were overcome.

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(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 111th; cultureofcorruption; democraticscandals; democrats; dingyharry; dirtyharry; djsob; harryreid; harrythecrook; ibd; mediabias; nv201; reid
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"OK, fine. But why the double standard and the hypocrisy? Is anybody investigating Harry Reid?"
1 posted on 10/17/2006 8:02:02 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 10/17/2006 8:03:32 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

BTTT! Thanks for posting and commenting.


3 posted on 10/17/2006 8:06:41 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: bitt; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000
You are going to get tired of my one and only Reid pict!


4 posted on 10/17/2006 8:10:21 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: bitt

Hey, Harry's going to "fix" it all. Then he will do some more "fixing" for his relatives. This deserves four barf bags.


5 posted on 10/17/2006 8:11:09 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: bitt

The question for me is who is directing the traffic of the investigations and non-investigations? Did the Bush administration leave that many Klintoon stooges in place at the Justice Department that they still have control like this? I can't figure out any other explanation.


6 posted on 10/17/2006 8:14:36 PM PDT by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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To: taxesareforever

7 posted on 10/17/2006 8:16:50 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

I'm sure this excellent column will just give Reid a little extra aggravation, but I'm glad it's "out there" anyway. One thing for sure, we'll never hear the word "corruption" out of Reid or Pelosi.


8 posted on 10/17/2006 8:17:49 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Dahoser

stooges in the CIA, FBI, Justice dept, etc...

this might be promising as a start-up

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/101806/reidbrief.html

Reid faces FEC complaint
By Elana Schor

"Conservative group Citizens United yesterday announced plans to file a complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) about Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) use of campaign funds to contribute to the Christmas fund in his condominium.

Reid, taking heat for his failure to report on annual financial disclosures that he had transferred ownership of land in suburban Las Vegas to a limited liability corporation, said Monday he would reimburse his campaign committee for $3,300 in annual donations to the Ritz-Carlton Christmas fund to stave off any allegations of ethical impropriety.

Citizens United President David Bossie, not satisfied by this, said he would dispute the issue with the FEC.

"Senator Reid knows better than to use political contributions for personal services," Bossie said in a statement. He made waves in conservative circles for his recent call that Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) resign in the wake of the former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) congressional page scandal.

One Democratic leadership aide, firing back at GOP attempts to impugn Reid's record, pointed to a 1992 FEC complaint filed against Bossie by former President George H.W. Bush. That complaint stemmed from a Citizens United ad asking voters to call a phone number that played fake conversations between former President Clinton and alleged mistress Gennifer Flowers.

Reid's office referred requests for comment to Reid's Monday statement on his reimbursement ..."


9 posted on 10/17/2006 8:20:01 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

You're joking, of course? No one touches Dirty Harry or his Las Vegas cronies, many of whom, including the mayor, have mob connections.


10 posted on 10/17/2006 8:21:21 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: bitt

It's like we are the basketball team who always plays the other team, plus the refs! We win anyway, even with the handicap!


11 posted on 10/17/2006 8:25:49 PM PDT by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

http://newsbusters.org/node/8399

Bozell Column: Harry Reid Can't Bleed
Posted by Brent Bozell on October 17, 2006 - 17:14.


Democrats across America are measuring the drapes for the majority in the House and the Senate, preparing to swear in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. One of their major talking points this year has been the Republican majority’s “culture of corruption.”


In January on PBS, Jim Lehrer asked Sen. Reid why lobbying reform was moving so slowly. Reid replied, “Jim, it's taken a while for this culture of corruption the Republicans have developed to come into the fore.”Aspiring “Speaker Pelosi” just gave a speech at Georgetown University pledging to “drain the swamp” of GOP corruption on Capitol Hill. The Democratic National Committee even had a page on their website devoted to the “Republican Culture of Corruption.”


But that “Culture of Corruption” page on the DNC home page has disappeared. Something funny happened on the way to the polls this year. The Democrats have shown they have their own contemporary ethical problems. Luckily for them, it probably won’t matter much on November 7. The national news media have decided to ignore them.


Look no further than Senator Reid himself. Associated Press reporters John Solomon and Kathleen Hennessy reported that Senator Reid scored a windfall of $700,000, turning a $400,000 real-estate investment in Las Vegas in 1998 to a $1.1 million land deal in 2004 – even though he apparently had sold the property to a casino lobbyist buddy in 2001. He did not report the facts on his Senate financial disclosure forms – while he served on the Senate Ethics Committee. When AP called Reid for comment, he hung up on them. You would think that an aggressive, fair and balanced media would have been incensed and activated. But we don’t have a fair and balanced national media.


It should be said that major newspaper editorial pages were not impressed with Reid’s defense. The Washington Post suggested “Mr. Reid's professions of transparency and full disclosure are transparently wrong.”


But the network distaste for saying anything critical of the Democratic leader was obvious. ABC aired nothing. CBS aired nothing. NBC’s Chip Reid offered a few words on “Nightly News” – after the latest full story on “Foley fallout.” There was no “Harry fallout.”


CNN stood out as especially pathetic. On CNN’s “American Morning” the day after the Reid story broke (and nearly two weeks after Foley resigned), they aired 18 minutes of Foley stories, and 35 seconds on Harry Reid. On “The Situation Room,” Wolf Blitzer quarantined the Reid story to little dribs and drabs heavy on Reid protesting his innocence. Meanwhile, CNN was devoting minutes to more substantial stories, like Arnold Schwarzenegger joking on the “Tonight” show that connecting him to Bush was like connecting him to an Oscar. Toxic Bush – now that’s Blitzer-tickling news.


But the networks were not alone in displaying fall-campaign favoritism. The New York Times put its Harry Reid story the next day on page A-19. The headline? “Senator to Amend Financial Forms.” Could the Times have possibly come up with a better “please don’t bother to read this, no real scandal here” headline?


In case you’re wondering if the Times favors Democrats on scandal stories, this was the Page One headline on the very same day: “Foley Case Snags Incumbent In Ohio Race for House Seat.” Reporter Adam Nagourney found Republican House leader Deborah Pryce in deep trouble in Columbus. On that day, the Foley news spilled over into 74 column inches of text and pictures. By contrast, the Reid story was merely 18 column inches. Clearly, the Times doesn’t hide its partisan priorities.


How about the news magazines? Last week their covers taunted and jeered at Republicans. Time’s cover showed the back of an elephant’s behind, signaling a goodbye to Republican corruption. Newsweek had a big picture of Mark Foley with the words “Off Message.” This week, Time has a cover hailing the greatness of liberal Democrat Senator Barack Obama. Neither one even mentioned Harry Reid. U.S. News mentioned Reid, but not his disclosure forms. They merely warned “Republican leaders trying to outrun their own scandals” would attack Reid and Pelosi.


This week, another little story erupted, again featuring Senator Reid. He was paying a few thousand dollars in Christmas bonuses to employees of his condominium at the Ritz-Carlton in Washington, out of his campaign funds, not his own wallet. That’s a clear violation of campaign laws. And besides, isn’t this a juicy story by today’s TV standards? The Senate Democratic leader, living at the Ritz-Carlton? And tipping the hired help with someone else’s money at Christmas time?


Predictably, NBC gave it a few seconds. The other networks did nothing. The papers buried it inside. And they wonder why there are bumper stickers saying “Don’t Trust the Liberal Media.”


12 posted on 10/17/2006 8:26:45 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt
I may be wrong, but I don't think that Mark Foley was "forced" to resign. I understood that when he heard that ABC was going with the story, he abruptly quit.

If so, my point would be that Democrats never quit, no matter how sleazy, even if someone dies in the scandal.

13 posted on 10/17/2006 8:26:59 PM PDT by lormand (0 to 10,000,000 people read my posts everyday)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

So is Soros involved with dirty Harry too?


14 posted on 10/17/2006 8:27:06 PM PDT by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: bitt

how about Murtha?? Didn't he get lobbyists to help his brother or something to that affect???


15 posted on 10/17/2006 8:29:01 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: bitt
This is why conservative presidents (wait, do we have one?) need to appoint conservative head-rollers for all major positions, including the FBI.

Alas, we no longer even have a conservative Attorney General.

16 posted on 10/17/2006 8:29:10 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: bitt

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-10-17-edit_x.htm?csp=34

Shameless money schemes stain Congress' reputation
Posted 10/17/2006 9:46 PM

Congress is supposed to be a body of public servants — people who pass up more lucrative professions for a chance to influence policy and improve constituents' lives.
These days, however, it is getting harder to see the sacrifice in congressional service. An extraordinary number of representatives and senators — well beyond the proverbial few bad apples — are devising schemes to supplement their annual $165,200 benefit-rich pay packages.

The schemes, often entered into with a breathtaking audacity and sense of personal entitlement, are corrosive to democracy, injurious to the reputations of the many honest and diligent lawmakers, and illustrative of the adage that power corrupts.

The tactics are many and varied. They range from setting up close relatives as highly paid lobbyists to cashing in on sweet investment deals. What unites them is a sense of utter shamelessness. A few examples:

•Family ties. An investigation by USA TODAY published Tuesday found rampant nepotism surrounding the House and Senate appropriations committees. In at least 30 cases, a committee member or a key aide was lobbied by a spouse or other family member. Last year alone, spending bills contained about $750 million for projects championed by those lobbyists or their firms.

Though the appropriations panels are known as "favor factories," they are hardly the only ones where such unsavory practices are common. House Armed Services Committee member Curt Weldon, R-Pa., for instance, has caught the attention of the FBI, which wants to know whether he improperly steered lobbying contracts to his daughter's firm. On Monday, agents raided her house.

•Easy money. Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., is the subject of a federal probe for collecting more than $300,000 over nine years in rent from a non-profit for which he helped obtain federal funding. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., made a $700,000 profit from a $400,000 land investment he entered into with a prominent Las Vegas casino lawyer. Reid, the Senate minority leader, failed to fully disclose his partnership with the lawyer.

•Direct action. Reps. Alan Mollohan, D-W.Va., and Charles Taylor, R-N.C., are among the members who have personally benefited from measures they inserted into spending bills. Taylor is a wealthy landowner who has benefited financially from road improvements in his district that he championed. Mollohan has set up a network of non-profits run by business partners to which he has steered tens of millions of dollars. His net worth has soared as the result of his various partnerships.

Some of these schemes are legal, but members of Congress shouldn't be operating under the standard that anything short of an indictable offense is acceptable. And even what's illegal hasn't proved to be a huge deterrent. Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., is under investigation and is said by the FBI to be on videotape accepting $100,000 in cash — $90,000 of which ended up in his freezer. Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham,R-Calif., and Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, have pleaded guilty to public corruption."....more....


17 posted on 10/17/2006 8:30:27 PM PDT by bitt
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To: Arizona Carolyn
No one touches Dirty Harry or his Las Vegas cronies, many of whom, including the mayor, have mob connections.

A light bulb went off when you mentioned mob connections. I wonder if some of Bush's decisions or failure to act as we want him to, has anything to do with threats he may have gotten.

I know this sounds off the wall, but doesn't it seem to you that Bush has changed? We have no way of knowing what kind of threats he gets!!!

18 posted on 10/17/2006 8:32:53 PM PDT by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: grandpa jones; FastCoyote; kcvl

here is the 1985 deal mentioned again:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-10-17-reid-christmas-bonuses_x.htm?csp=34

On the land dealings, Reid announced Monday he had failed to disclose two other transactions on his prior ethics reports and would account for those on his amended reports along with the 2001 sale.

The first, he said, involved the 2004 sale of about one-third acre of land he owned in his hometown of Searchlight, Nev. And he said he had not reported his ownership since 1985 of a quarter acre of land his brother gave him in 1985.

Reid said the failure to disclose those transactions previously was due to "clerical errors" and they amounted to "two minor matters that were inadvertently left off my original disclosure forms."

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hmmmmm......2 USAToday stories....just coming out...


19 posted on 10/17/2006 8:34:09 PM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt

ping for later


20 posted on 10/17/2006 8:34:34 PM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: Arizona Carolyn
No one touches Dirty Harry or his Las Vegas cronies, many of whom, including the mayor, have mob connections.

So, I'm wondering re Las Vegas cronies, would criminal conspiracy laws apply here?

Assuming they do, might it be possible for one or two of his "buddies" to be persuaded by the feds to "flip" on don Reid-leone?

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21 posted on 10/17/2006 8:37:43 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: blondee123
You mean that 'other' team that always played the Harlem Globetrotters?

There's a great scene in Pirates of the Carribean where Will Turner chides Jack Sparrow for not fighting fair. Sparrow replies..."Pirate!"

We're dealing with Pirates, Scoundrels, and Scalliwags. When will we learn to fight with appropriate ruthlessness and resolve?! We may mostly win, but someday we won't. And when a ship loses a fight like that its plundered and scuttled and sinks to the bottom.

It doesn't come back.

22 posted on 10/17/2006 8:41:11 PM PDT by Mr.Atos (http://mysandmen.blogspot.com)
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To: God luvs America

and John F'n Kerry, set up a sweet deal with his bro Cameron and his frencie cousin Collier for trade with Vietnam...

http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A1894_0_2_0_C/


23 posted on 10/17/2006 8:41:12 PM PDT by bitt
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To: blondee123

There is a simpler explanation, of course . . .


24 posted on 10/17/2006 8:43:05 PM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: Seaplaner

Inchoate offenses

Conspiracy: between two or more persons to commit an unlawful act.

+ Common law:
# Does not require an act.

Solicitation: the act of asking someone else to commit a crime

+ Common Law:
# Asking someone to help commit a crime is not solicitation. Only asking someone to do it himself is solicitation.




Conspiracy:

o Common Law: Conspiracy is defined and complete upon the formation of agreement

+ No overt act is required

+ Conspiracy is a separate crime that does not require completion of the agreed upon goal
+ Conspiracy does not merge with the substantive crime and thus both can be charged
+ An out of court statement of a co-conspirator that was made in furtherance of the conspiracy is admissible in court.55
+ Specific intent crime: must have (1) intent to join conspiracy and (2) intent to commit the offense which is the object of the conspiracy. 56


25 posted on 10/17/2006 8:44:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Thanks kcvl.

(I had to read it a couple of times.)

26 posted on 10/17/2006 8:59:42 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: bitt

bttt


27 posted on 10/17/2006 9:00:49 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: bitt

The Nevada sourpuss still avoiding mainstream media. Or are they AVOIDING HIM??


28 posted on 10/17/2006 9:06:47 PM PDT by cookcounty (Coach Hastert: Good news! Your insurance DOES cover spine implants.)
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To: bitt

In Rush's Limbaugh letter he wrote about the "shadow government".

Looks like they are finally coming out of the "shadows"!


29 posted on 10/17/2006 9:39:40 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: bitt
It's one of two things, either Harry is sweating bullets over this, or Harry get's a nice retirement package on his way out the door.

We won't know of course, until after Election Day, Nov. 7th.

30 posted on 10/17/2006 10:43:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--YouDontKnowJack.org)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 10/17/2006 10:57:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bitt
HARRY REID LAND SCAM SING-ALONG ON YOUTUBE

A reporter interviewed me today about the song and about using YouTube for political activism.

32 posted on 10/17/2006 11:15:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Dahoser

"The question for me is who is directing the traffic of the investigations and non-investigations? Did the Bush administration leave that many Klintoon stooges in place at the Justice Department that they still have control like this? I can't figure out any other explanation."

I'm inside the loop on some parts of this story, and I can tell you that either the FBI covered up Reid's involvement, and the involvement of a political consultant named Kent Oram, OR their investigation has been severely compromised in the GSting scandal (which should be knocking at Reid's door). The great thing about coverups though, is that when they break, all hell breaks loose. I thing we are only another couple stories away from that point.


33 posted on 10/17/2006 11:36:08 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"You're joking, of course? No one touches Dirty Harry or his Las Vegas cronies, many of whom, including the mayor, have mob connections."

You are so right. If you want the dirty underside of what is going on, go here :
http://gsting.blogspot.com

Harry will link with the GSting scandal and Oscar Goodman and the mafia and bribery soon enough. The question is who orchestrated the coverup this long.


34 posted on 10/17/2006 11:38:52 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: lormand
I may be wrong, but I don't think that Mark Foley was "forced" to resign. I understood that when he heard that ABC was going with the story, he abruptly quit.

You can certainly rest assured that had he not "chosen" to resign, the "choice" would have been made for him.

35 posted on 10/17/2006 11:52:45 PM PDT by Bob
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To: FastCoyote

I sure hope so, but why did they cover it up in the first place? These guys are answering to someone for a particular reason. But I'll be patient and wait to see it unravel. Give me time to get the popcorn made.


36 posted on 10/18/2006 2:54:15 AM PDT by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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To: Dahoser

bookmark for a.m.


37 posted on 10/18/2006 3:26:02 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: bitt

Bump for several good articles on Reid.


38 posted on 10/18/2006 5:35:44 AM PDT by angelsonmyside (Why won't Nancy talk now?)
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To: bitt
Is Weldon being investigated by the Pennsylvania office of the FBI. I saw something similar done to NY's Jeanine Pirro.

Something wrong here!

39 posted on 10/18/2006 5:39:08 AM PDT by OldFriend (ANNOY THE MEDIA ~ VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: doug from upland; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; ...

see #32, and click on Doug's UTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMoe7u7Qdc


get the 'views' up on this!


40 posted on 10/18/2006 6:21:01 AM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt; doug from upland; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo
BTTT
Sing Along With Harry
41 posted on 10/18/2006 6:40:33 AM PDT by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: Dahoser

"I sure hope so, but why did they cover it up in the first place? "

It is the last gasp of the good old mafia days here in Vegas, a lot of stuff still gets hidden and the FBI gets compromised. Kent Oram has the police sewed up, he runs all the sheriff campaigns, including the current one for Doug Gillespie. Oram needs to be linked into this.


42 posted on 10/18/2006 7:37:09 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Dahoser
"The question for me is who is directing the traffic of the investigations and non-investigations? Did the Bush administration leave that many Klintoon stooges in place at the Justice Department that they still have control like this?"

I think it's called "civil service" employees, which means they're in that job until they retire, resign, are dismissed due to misbehavior, or die. I'd say though that this branch of the Justice Dept. definitely needs to be investigated. Who authorized the Weldon investigation? There has to be paperwork on it in the files of the DOJ, and I'm assuming that Alberto Gonzales would have access to such stuff. Get cracking Al!! If Weldon is guilty, fine...but let's share the wealth here and investigate the documented violations of Dingy Harry too. I can't believe these dopes at the Justice Dept. are so blatantly open with their bias. They're looking kind of stupid these days and outrageously discriminatory. Makes you want to knock on their heads and say: "Hello!!!! Anybody home????"

43 posted on 10/18/2006 7:50:58 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: bitt
get the 'views' up on this!

Will include in the ping for Today's Toons 10/19/06.


44 posted on 10/18/2006 8:20:00 AM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: bitt

pathetic is the only thought that comes to mind.


45 posted on 10/18/2006 10:41:34 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: blondee123
I'm not positive about that. There is a Soros/Pelosi connection, but I see CREW did write a watered-down hand slap at Harry for the land deal -- SOROS and CREW are pretty closely linked... what I did find that is interesting is a close connection between Harry Reid and Chinagate.... here at this blog:

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/004011.html

46 posted on 10/18/2006 10:53:20 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: blondee123

I am so confused by most of the President's actions this term. I don't know what to make of it.


47 posted on 10/18/2006 10:54:39 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Seaplaner
Probably, except part of the whole GSting operation included the Sheriff of Clark County and the local FBI office.

It's going to take the feds at the DC level and we all know (or at least suspect) given the raid on Curt Weldon's daughter this week that the FBI is still full of Clintonites so I hold out a very slim hope in that regard.

48 posted on 10/18/2006 10:57:41 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FastCoyote
Interesting question. What did come first? Chicken or the egg. Did you see the link I found where there is a link to Harry and Chinagate?

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/004011.html

49 posted on 10/18/2006 10:59:06 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: grandpa jones; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; bitt; dixiechick2000; Smartass
"This land was made to profit me" Sounds about right!!


50 posted on 10/18/2006 3:08:33 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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