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Santorum defends Iraq war (uses Lord of the Rings analogy)
Bucks County Courier Times ^ | October 17, 2006 | ALISON HAWKES

Posted on 10/18/2006 2:26:04 PM PDT by Stone Mountain

Santorum defends Iraq war

By ALISON HAWKES

Bucks County Courier Times

Embattled U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum said America has avoided a second terrorist attack for five years because the “Eye of Mordor” has been drawn to Iraq instead.

Santorum used the analogy from one of his favorite books, J.R.R. Tolkien's 1950s fantasy classic “Lord of the Rings,” to put an increasingly unpopular war in Iraq into terms any school kid could easily understand.

“As the hobbits are going up Mount Doom, the Eye of Mordor is being drawn somewhere else,” Santorum said, describing the tool the evil Lord Sauron used in search of the magical ring that would consolidate his power over Middle-earth.

“It's being drawn to Iraq and it's not being drawn to the U.S.,” Santorum continued. “You know what? I want to keep it on Iraq. I don't want the Eye to come back here to the United States.”

In an interview with the Bucks County Courier Times editorial board late last week, the 12-year Republican senator from Pennsylvania said he's “a big "Lord of the Rings' fan.” He's read the first of the series, “The Hobbit” to his six children.

A spokesman for Democratic opponent Bob Casey Jr. questioned the appropriateness of the analogy.

“You have to really question the judgment of a U.S. senator who compares the war in Iraq to a fantasy book,” said Casey spokesman Larry Smar. “This is just like when he said Kim Jong II isn't a threat because he just wants to "watch NBA basketball.' ”

According to a Harrisburg Patriot-News editorial, Santorum said the North Korea dictator “doesn't want to die; he wants to watch NBA basketball” as a reason why Iran is the bigger nuclear threat.

Faced with a no-fantasy re-election battle against Democratic challenger and state Treasurer Bob Casey Jr., Santorum has positioned himself as strong on national security.

To counter Casey's claims that Santorum voted with President George Bush “98 percent of the time.” Santorum pointedly mentioned their areas of difference, specifically on Iran and its nuclear weapons program.

He called the Bush Administration's policy to negotiate with Iran “at worst appeasement and at best constructive engagement, either of which are wrong.”

“They believe you can negotiate with [Iran President] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the mullahs on the issue of nuclear weapons and you cannot,” Santorum said. “You cannot negotiate something away from someone who has a messianic vision to a religious conviction that they need this weapon.”

Santorum said he managed to work out an agreement between Congress and the White House on a plan to toughen sanctions and fund Iranian pro-democracy groups. But he seemed frustrated by questions about U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq.

“I don't think you ask that question,” he said. “I know that's the question everybody wants to ask. But I don't think anyone would ask that question in 1944, "Gee, how long are we going to be in Europe?' We're going to be in Europe until we win,” Santorum said.

Asked whether he thinks U.S. troops will be in Iraq a half-century later, as they still are in Germany, Santorum said “potentially.”

“Having a presence there as we have since the Gulf War in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait is certainly not against the interests of America if, in fact, we're welcome to be there,” he said.

Santorum insisted the U.S. needed to take out Saddam Hussein because he “by all accounts, had weapons of mass destruction ... he was fomenting terrorism, he was paying for terrorists to kill Israelis and he was supporting terrorist objectives.

“To say we're being bogged down in Iraq, I disagree with you,” he said in response to a question. “We are fighting the war that we are engaged in — Islamic fascism — in Iraq. We are fighting those people right now, the people who, if we left, would come here and destroy us.”

The 911 Commission report found that while Saddam had been in contact with al-Qaida, there was no evidence the contacts ever turned into “a collaborative operational relationship” or that Iraq cooperated in the attacks against the U.S.

Santorum demurred on the growing strength of the Taliban in Afghanistan, the U.S.'s first post-9/11 nation-building effort, and the failure to capture Osama bin Laden.

“You know, what we have is a lousy enemy,” Santorum said about the Taliban resurgence in Afghanistan. “This enemy is really tough. And I underestimated this enemy ... and the problem is [the] American people underestimated this enemy.”

According to his campaign and published news reports, Casey also doesn't support a timeline for troop withdrawal. Casey criticized Bush for going first to Iraq, the weakest link in the “Axis of Evil,” while Iran and North Korea have developed nuclear capabilities.

Casey has been invited to meet with the editorial board, but hasn't yet agreed to do so.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hobbits; lord; rings; santorum
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Some wag pointed out that Sen. Rick Santorum is an anagram for SAURON TRICKS MEN! : )
1 posted on 10/18/2006 2:26:07 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

Were you that wag?....Anyway, I've used the LOTR analogy myself.


2 posted on 10/18/2006 2:27:47 PM PDT by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: My2Cents

Not me - I wish, though! I saw it in some letters to the editor section...


3 posted on 10/18/2006 2:28:20 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

4 posted on 10/18/2006 2:28:35 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: struggle

Why is that picture making me hot? : )


5 posted on 10/18/2006 2:29:40 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
Some wag pointed out that Casey stands for

Commie
Appeaser
Stupid
Elitists
Yippee

6 posted on 10/18/2006 2:30:59 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: Stone Mountain

As Polybius wrote in his history, the Romans thought it was better to fight Hannibal's ally Philip V of Macedon in his own country than to wait around until they had to fight him in Italy.


7 posted on 10/18/2006 2:31:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Stone Mountain

8 posted on 10/18/2006 2:36:14 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Stone Mountain
Hey Casey,


9 posted on 10/18/2006 2:38:52 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: Stone Mountain
“You have to really question the judgment of a U.S. senator who compares the war in Iraq to a fantasy book,” said Casey spokesman Larry Smar.

He'd do better to argue about the merits of the analogy, rather than the source. At any rate, the "fantasy book" is a classic, an epic tale of the battle between good and evil. Not too long ago it was made into three blockbuster movies. So don't bash LotR.

10 posted on 10/18/2006 2:44:13 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Stone Mountain; My2Cents

I've used that analogy too. With some lefties I met because we were both fans of the LotR series.


11 posted on 10/18/2006 2:51:38 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: ecurbh
The last updated list of pings shows you're the Hobbit Hole master, so I figure this is appropriate for that.
12 posted on 10/18/2006 2:52:47 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: Irish Rose
"“You have to really question the judgment of a U.S. senator who compares the war in Iraq to a fantasy book,” said Casey spokesman Larry Smar."

You have to use John Lennon songs! What was Santorum thinking?

13 posted on 10/18/2006 2:53:17 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary (Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”)
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To: Stone Mountain

Casey's just mad because he rooted for Sauron in the movie.


14 posted on 10/18/2006 2:53:43 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Stone Mountain

I think it's a fantastic analogy.


15 posted on 10/18/2006 2:53:56 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Casey is one to talk. He's a low wattage bulb.


16 posted on 10/18/2006 2:56:23 PM PDT by Callahan
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"Santorum defends Iraq war (uses Lord of the Rings analogy)"

Maybe slightly off topic, but sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Neville Chamberlain had stood up to Hitler rather than appeasing him. Chamberlain probably would have gone down in history reviled and considered a warmonger, and only a small percentage of the population would have had any notion of the good he had done.
17 posted on 10/18/2006 3:00:02 PM PDT by Moral Hazard ("No we all can't be Superfly GQPhdFBI")
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To: Irish Rose
Tolkien did in fact have totalitarianism (Germany & Russia) in mind when he wrote the trilogy. It is a perfect analogy for Iraq/Islamofacism.Casey is another example among a host of today's democrats/shallow minded liberals that fit the model of spineless characters in "Lord of the Rings".
18 posted on 10/18/2006 3:01:35 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Stone Mountain

He's right. It's not America that's being bogged down in Iraq... it's the Islamic fascists of the world being drawn there as predictably as bugs to a flame.

Motel Al-Roach.

It's working pretty well, too.


19 posted on 10/18/2006 3:05:23 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1600 knives and counting!)
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To: ecurbh

Ring ping... :-)

Hold your ground! Hold your ground!

Sons of Gondor, of Rohan, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me!

A day may come when the courage of men fails. When we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. An hour of wolves, and shattered shields when the age of men comes crashing down!

But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!


20 posted on 10/18/2006 3:07:13 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1600 knives and counting!)
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