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Project Orion: Unpublished Documents (Atomic Bomb Powered Spaceships)
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Posted on 10/18/2006 11:37:20 PM PDT by Dallas59

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To: Dallas59

An atomic rocket was tested near Cleveland TX many years ago, probably from the base in LA. 2 women and a boy(Colby)got severe radiation burns but a federal judge hushed it up. Actually the magnetic ring idea for space flight sounded more practical : a superconducting ring about 5mm in cross section and 2-3 km in diameter has a central, offset cabin(thin cables to the ring). Its magnetic field interacts with the solar wind/magnetic field like a sail. Offset it this way and you "mag-sail" outward to mars and beyond, offset it the other way and you drop inward to venus/mercury. Once the su-co current/magnetic dipole is established there is no fuel required, the solar wind is "free". Also the dipole field protects the cabin from charged particles/cosmic rays, sort of a mini-magnetosphere. Sadly enough, NASA didn't show any real interest in the idea, they're all ROCKET SCIENISTS over there, and if it doesn't have BIG BUCKS/FEDERAL PROGRAM written all over it = deep six it...


21 posted on 10/19/2006 2:12:31 AM PDT by timer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Focus the (blast)action in a certain direction.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, which is, in this case, thrust.

It isn't "pushing" against anything.


22 posted on 10/19/2006 4:03:23 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Dallas59
"BLAM ... BLAM ... BLAM. God was knocking at the door and he wanted in BAD."
-- on board the atomic spaceship "Michael" in Footfall, by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
23 posted on 10/19/2006 5:19:21 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dallas59
I'd really like to see them restart the NERVA program.
24 posted on 10/19/2006 5:33:36 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Neanderthal
What was the name of his book? I remember reading it in about 1979. Where'd you meet him?

Disturbing the Universe.

He gave a lecture to a small group of students including me. Afterwards he answered questions informally. The lecture concerned a strange connection between two branches of physics that had been discovered by Richard Feynman but never published.

25 posted on 10/19/2006 6:29:27 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Iris7
How tall is Freeman Dyson? On TV decades ago he looked tiny compared to Dick Cavett who is darn short himself.

He is a thin person, but I don't remember him being noticeably short. I am average height and when I was standing right next to him I don't remember having to look down.

26 posted on 10/19/2006 6:36:13 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Vince Ferrer

my understanding is that the pusher plate (steel plate several feet thick, IIRC) would ablate from the heat, sending atoms at very high speed rearward and causing the thrust.


27 posted on 10/19/2006 6:39:19 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: orionblamblam

Heck, how could I _NOT_ ping you?


28 posted on 10/19/2006 10:12:21 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Dallas59

The nuclear rocket engines developed in the '60's would be more reliable and efficient. And it's starting to look like they're making a comeback.


29 posted on 10/19/2006 10:16:19 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Iris7
Rockets do not "push against" anything. The whole business is momentum transfer.

Yes, I understand that, but this is not a traditional rocket. I found the answer on another website:

"The propulsion system advocated for the Orion spacecraft was based on an idea first put forward by Stanislaw Ulam and Cornelius Everett in a classified paper in 1955. Ulam and Everett suggested releasing atomic bombs behind a spacecraft, followed by disks made of solid propellant. The bombs would explode, vaporizing the material of the disks and converting it into hot plasma. As this plasma rushed out in all directions, some of it would catch up with the spacecraft, impinge upon a pusher plate, and so drive the vehicle forward.

Ulam and Everett's idea was modified so that instead of propellant disks, the propellant and bomb were combined into a single pulse unit. Plastic was chosen as the propellant material, not only because of its effectiveness in absorbing the neutrons emitted by an atomic explosion but also because it breaks down into lightweight atoms such as those of hydrogen and carbon which move at high speed when hot. This approach, in tandem with the pusher plate concept, offered a unique propulsion system that could simultaneously produce high thrust with high exhaust velocity. "

Orion

So, the vaporized plastic is what I was looking for. More than just a bomb is necessary.

30 posted on 10/19/2006 6:42:20 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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