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Eastwood keeps it a little too real in ‘Flags’
Boston Herald ^ | 10/19/06

Posted on 10/19/2006 8:30:57 AM PDT by Valin

It is Clint Eastwood’s “Dirty Harry”-esque directing approach - not the star-studded cast - that “Flags of Our Fathers” actor Barry Pepper credits for the oh-so-real on-screen re-enactment of World War II’s bloody Battle of Iwo Jima.

“Eastwood didn’t rehearse anything,” Sgt. Michael Strank’s alter-ego told the Track. “So we didn’t know when these massive explosions were going to be sending a ton of sand in the air or where the weapons were going to be fired.”

Battered from a blast, the startled stars would voice their surprise to Eastwood after a take. But Pepper said the Oscar winner would “just smile and say, ‘Well your look was accordingly perfect.’ ”

“That was exactly what he had in mind to get these incredibly accurate emotions of these young, 18- or 19-year-old kids scared and out of their element,” said Pepper, who also appeared in “Saving Private Ryan.”

And if an actor sustained an injury during a scene, Pepper said you had to bite the bullet and get stitched up later.

“He doesn’t wait for anybody to have their actor weeny moment,” the war movie veteran laughed. “He just expects that you are a mature actor and you can get through the film. If you don’t, then you are just left in the dust because he can pretty much take you or leave you. He’ll shoot the movie without you!”

Pepper witnessed Eastwood’s tough love first-hand when a “squib-hit” blew up in his face, bloodying his lip.

“A medic came up to me after the shot and told me I had to go to the hospital,” he recalled. “But I went up to Eastwood and said, ‘I’m not leaving because I know you - and you’ll shoot the day without me! I won’t be in the movie!’ He laughed and said, ‘Good, because it’s a long way from your heart.’ ”

Then the 76-year-old icon reached over and plucked a 1-inch copper wire that had piercedPepper’s lip adding, “But, you might want to take this out first.”

Yikes! Was Eastwood channeling Gen. Patton???

“Flags of Our Fathers” tells the story of the six men who raised the second flag during the Battle of Iwo Jima. Ryan Phillippe, Jesse Bradford and Adam Beach portray the three survivors who are shipped back home and whisked off on a propaganda tour to raise money for the war effort.

“Flags of Our Fathers” opens in theaters tomorrow.


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1 posted on 10/19/2006 8:30:57 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin
Clint Eastwood is torturing actors!!!!! Where is Sean Penn? Where is Susan Sarandon? Oh the humanity!!! Wait until the union gets a hold of Clint...
2 posted on 10/19/2006 8:34:04 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Mohammad was a pedophile. Islam is a cult.)
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To: Valin
Good for Eastwood.

I had to put up with celebrities such as the incredibly spoiled "JLo" when she came to Germany.

She had a tantrum because all the furniture in her hotel suite was not virgin white - as she had demanded. We also provided Evian water, but it was cold, and not at "room temperature." She threw the bottle of water at the wall.

If you are making a war movie, then make one. Kudos to the director for not babying the actors.

3 posted on 10/19/2006 8:37:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: WV Mountain Mama

McCain is typing up the Senate Bill to prohibit this kind of torture atrocity, as we read.


4 posted on 10/19/2006 8:38:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Valin
And if an actor sustained an injury during a scene, Pepper said you had to bite the bullet and get stitched up later.

That's the sort of attitude that leads to deaths like those on the set of Twilight Zone The Movie.

Werner Herzog does some foolish things on the set but he takes the same risks himself.

Hong Kong films had death defying stunts in them because the film industry there and audiences expected them. It's why Jackie Chan's American films pale in comparison. Jackie took a very bad fall in HK and the cameraman's first thought was to save the camera, not the lead actor.

5 posted on 10/19/2006 8:38:38 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: SkyPilot

Clint Eastwood's next film is supposed to be Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective. Think he'll be taking the same risks?


6 posted on 10/19/2006 8:39:20 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: MelonFarmerJ

Ping (I'm planning to see it Tuesday)


7 posted on 10/19/2006 8:39:37 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Valin
Then the 76-year-old icon reached over and plucked a 1-inch copper wire that had piercedPepper’s lip adding, “But, you might want to take this out first.”

LOL!

8 posted on 10/19/2006 8:40:21 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SkyPilot

I read the book and had already planned to go see this. Now I find out Barry Pepper's in it? BONUS!


9 posted on 10/19/2006 8:40:36 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: weegee
Clint Eastwood's next film is supposed to be Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective. Think he'll be taking the same risks?

"Hey, ya pansy! Can't take a little napalm burn? Sheesh! Get back in the cave!"

10 posted on 10/19/2006 8:41:10 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Gunnery Sgt. Highway was just teaching them to improvise, adapt and overcome.


11 posted on 10/19/2006 8:43:49 AM PDT by Cecily (`)
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To: weegee
Clint Eastwood's next film is supposed to be Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective. Think he'll be taking the same risks?

I heard there is a Japanese Director on board and Eastwood's role will be "co-director" - correct?

If that is the case, who knows.

12 posted on 10/19/2006 8:44:57 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Valin

Great director, expecting a wonderful movie.


13 posted on 10/19/2006 8:44:59 AM PDT by exnavy (God bless America)
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To: weegee

If you read the book you'll find out that Bradley's best friend was captured by the Japanese. Knowing they were going to lose they cut off his balls, stuffed them in his mouth, and left him to bleed to death to be later found by Bradley. Is that the perspective of which you were thinking? I hope they put that part in the movie.


14 posted on 10/19/2006 8:45:34 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Valin

I seem to remember that before they began shooting Saving Private Ryan they put Tom Hanks, Barry Pepper, and all the rest of the actors in the squad through a two week boot-camp-like deal where they were living in the mud, sleeping in the rain, eating bad food, and going through all the stuff soldiers in France were forced to go through. Supposedly about half way through, just about all the younger ones were fed up and went to Hanks to see if he could do something about it. Hanks basically said, "Everyone who wants to end it now raise their hand" and they all raised their hand. Then Hanks said, "Opposed" and raised his hand. Then he said "Motion defeated" and went back to work.


15 posted on 10/19/2006 8:45:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Valin

"Battered from a blast, the startled stars would voice their surprise to Eastwood after a take"




bet that beach smelled bad


16 posted on 10/19/2006 8:46:54 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Barry Pepper was on Fox and Friends yesterday...I was impressed with his clarity and intelligence.

I'd never seen nor heard of him until he played the praying sniper in Saving Private Ryan.

17 posted on 10/19/2006 8:47:08 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: ErnBatavia

Wish I'd seen that. I first noticed him in SPR as well. That movie kick started the careers of quite a few actors.


18 posted on 10/19/2006 8:49:12 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: weegee
"Clint Eastwood's next film is supposed to be Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective. "

Seriesly? I was hoping for something from the European Theater that no one's done an historically accurate movie about...

The Battle of the Bulge, for example...

19 posted on 10/19/2006 8:49:13 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Valin
“That was exactly what he had in mind to get these incredibly accurate emotions of these young, 18- or 19-year-old kids scared and out of their element,” said Pepper, who also appeared in “Saving Private Ryan.”

How old is Mr. Pepper? How old are the other actors? I'm not suggesting that older actors can't play teenagers . . . just curious.

20 posted on 10/19/2006 8:50:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Valin

BUMP!


21 posted on 10/19/2006 8:50:42 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Non-Sequitur
I seem to remember that before they began shooting Saving Private Ryan they put Tom Hanks, Barry Pepper, and all the rest of the actors in the squad through a two week boot-camp-like deal where they were living in the mud, sleeping in the rain, eating bad food, and going through all the stuff soldiers in France were forced to go through.

Yep, and the great Dale Dye was the one who was in charge of that boot camp. Dye was also the one who played Colonel Sink in BoB.

22 posted on 10/19/2006 8:51:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001608/


23 posted on 10/19/2006 8:51:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ErnBatavia

He played Joe Galloway in "We Were Soldiers" and Dale Earnhardt in "3."


24 posted on 10/19/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (USAF Air Rescue "That others may live.")
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To: ErnBatavia

Don't know why, but he does seem a bit different...he must not have come across as a Hollywood lib then...


25 posted on 10/19/2006 8:52:26 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
It would strike me as NOT... the genre of movie for a “scratch your ass and mumble” type of actor.
26 posted on 10/19/2006 8:52:49 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: dfwgator
Yep, and the great Dale Dye was the one who was in charge of that boot camp. Dye was also the one who played Colonel Sink in BoB.

He was also in Saving Private Ryan as one of Marshall's staff officers in the scene where they decide to go find the surviving brother. Great movie, even if some parts were a bit far featched.

27 posted on 10/19/2006 8:53:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: OKSooner
The Battle of the Bulge, for example...

Band of Brothers is probably as good as you're going to get.

28 posted on 10/19/2006 8:53:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Valin

I can only wonder what SAG will say about this.


29 posted on 10/19/2006 8:56:04 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: OKSooner

I will be glad to see this. Europe has been covered over and over again. It will be good to see something about the Pacific. The mud, rain and conditions they had to live in.


30 posted on 10/19/2006 8:56:27 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Valin

Quick, somebody ban squibs!!!!


31 posted on 10/19/2006 8:57:50 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

A ''Harry Truman'' cabinet meeting moment.


32 posted on 10/19/2006 8:58:30 AM PDT by middie
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To: Valin

Since I have not yet seen the movie, was Ira Hayes mentioned at all?


33 posted on 10/19/2006 9:01:29 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

The guy who played in "Codetalkers" with Nick Cage is Ira Hayes, I think.


34 posted on 10/19/2006 9:02:37 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: Valin
Recently, I bought and began playing "Call to Duty: Pacific Assault" a First-Person Shooter set in WWII.

I am a pampered baby boomer, too young for Vietnam, too old for anything else, 46 and have never had my life on the line (well, except for an armed robbery in a Radio Shack I was working at twenty years ago.) But mostly, the roughest thing I have been in has been an occasional car accident.

This game really made me appriciate what our fathers (and theirs before them, for that matter) lived through. Even in simulation, the experience of walking through a South Pacific jungle, listening for the snap of a twig, and wondering if death was up in the trees, was an education for me.

Many of us in here really have no idea. We respect the military and their bravery and sacrifice, but we have no idea of what it is to really go through it. How much worse must it be for the defeatocrats, the Europe-lovers, the Lefties and the "journalists" who blather on about "what America REALLY should be doing right now."

If you get a chance, play this game. And I'd like to see all the nay-sayers dropped in the middle of a real South Pacific jungle sixty plus years ago to see what real bravery is.

35 posted on 10/19/2006 9:08:23 AM PDT by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: CholeraJoe
Having been a witness to the We Were Soldiers episode from 500'AGL for several sorties, I found it to be the most accurate reenactment of a battle I've seen. My late father said the same about the first scene in SPR. Band of Brothers was the most accurate in relation to the banter and conduct of offiers and men when not in battle.

The customs and courtesies as well as the necessary separation and non-fraternization of enlisted - offiers were almost flawless in Band of Brothers. Long time military wives understood it but to listen to a recently minted wife of the 0-3 son was an experience. She shortly thereafter received a copy of ''The Officer's Wife'' manual.

36 posted on 10/19/2006 9:11:20 AM PDT by middie
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To: Non-Sequitur

I seem to remember that before they began shooting Saving Private Ryan they put Tom Hanks, Barry Pepper, and all the rest of the actors in the squad through a two week boot-camp-like deal where they were living in the mud, sleeping in the rain, eating bad food, and going through all the stuff soldiers in France were forced to go through.


Samething happened in "Band Of Brothers". If you get the DVD it was filmed.


37 posted on 10/19/2006 9:11:33 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: dfwgator
Good point. Band of Brothers was better than anything else that's ever been done before. It was not about The Battle of the Bulge, however; it was about a particular company of the 101st Airborne for the duration of the war, including The Bulge.

I was thinking more along the lines of The Longest Day. Hollywood doesn't (normally) do stuff like that any more in these PC times, though, so I suppose I'll have to settle for some of the history written by Ambrose and others.

My idea for a movie? "To Save Bastogne", based on the book by the same name by Robert Phillips, about the delaying action by the 28th and other divisions that made it possible for the 101st to make it into Bastogne in time to defend it as the krauts were advancing from the east.

That's JMHO, of course.

38 posted on 10/19/2006 9:11:36 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

I was hoping for something from the European Theater that no one's done an historically accurate movie about...

The Battle of the Bulge, for example


Band of Brothers.


39 posted on 10/19/2006 9:14:37 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: weegee
Clint Eastwood's next film is supposed to be Iwo Jima from the Japanese perspective

Titled Letters From Iwo Jima, it's supposed to be in Japanese with English subtitles.

Out of the 22,000 troops they had there, 21,000 were killed. They were told they wouldn't be going home, they were there to die for the emperor ...

40 posted on 10/19/2006 9:15:58 AM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: OKSooner
The Battle of the Bulge, for example...

Band of Brothers did a pretty good job on that segment.

41 posted on 10/19/2006 9:19:01 AM PDT by Protagoras (Billy only tried to kill Bin Laden, he actually succeeded with Ron Brown and Vince Foster.)
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To: L98Fiero
Ira Hayes, A Pima Indian from Arizona was one of the 6 Marines that raised the flag on Mount Suribaci February 23, 1945. I was surprised not to see his name among those that were called survivors. Johnny Cash even sang about him.
42 posted on 10/19/2006 9:20:36 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: OKSooner

Need to remake "Battleground"


43 posted on 10/19/2006 9:22:26 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Zachary Taylor s/h finished the job.)
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To: Valin

Now that's what I call method acting!


44 posted on 10/19/2006 9:22:32 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: 50sDad
Good morning.

The VA shrink thinks I'm crazy to play shooters, but the bottom line is that they help me sleep. I stop for awhile and I start to get twitchy and have difficulty sleeping again.

A side effect is that they helped me recover from a stroke because of the need to manipulate the keys despite my paralysis , and the need to engage the brain in problem solving under stress. I'll never recover completely, but I can rack the slide on my pistols and hunt virtual Nazis and Commies, so I can live with it.

There were moments in the Games 'Vietcong', 'Men Of Valor' and 'Brothers in Arms' that made me sweat, but I was very calm and relaxed after I had figured out how to survive. I assume that I'll figure out the psychology involved someday.

Michael Frazier
45 posted on 10/19/2006 9:25:21 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: SkyPilot


well, I think she needed to be spanked.


46 posted on 10/19/2006 9:26:33 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: tx_eggman
Reading the history of these events, as seen by the other side can be quite enlightening

Here's an excellent history of the Battle of Midway, as seen by Japanese Naval Aviators who were there.

47 posted on 10/19/2006 9:26:51 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dfwgator; Snoopers-868th

I agree, although I have to admit I have always thought that a grand scale four hour movie that showed the Battle for Guadalcanal, complete with air battles and sea battles would be a great tribute to the men who fought in the Pacific.

That said, I cannot imagine how they could make a movie of the bloodbath of Iwo Jima. I know a large portion (maybe most, for all I know) deals with the guy on the war bond drive, but I am curious.


48 posted on 10/19/2006 9:27:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Seriously though, I hope they wore ear-plugs. There are indeed, important OSHA guidelines about that.


49 posted on 10/19/2006 9:30:52 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: rlmorel

Agree Guadalcanal. "Guadalcanal Diary" was too sanitized (although about the best you'd get in that day and age).


50 posted on 10/19/2006 9:43:29 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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