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Pledge to Mexican Flag Captured on School Video(Is this a great country or what!)
worldnetdaily.com ^ | October 19, 2006 | staff

Posted on 10/19/2006 5:22:50 PM PDT by kellynla

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To: Ben Ficklin

You should be condemning somebody having American children reciting a PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE to another country, as should anybody with a minimal amount of loyalty to this country.


61 posted on 10/20/2006 12:01:07 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Dane
The speaker was obviously a leftist and now you have given ammunition to those on FR who will say that every hispanic is to the left of fidel castro.

Dane, give it a rest. Since when is making a factual statement giving ammo?

62 posted on 10/20/2006 12:05:02 PM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: jmc813

And that is the essence of the dispute, or more likely, exaggeration


63 posted on 10/20/2006 12:08:49 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
And that is the essence of the dispute, or more likely, exaggeration

Have you viewed the videos of these "exaggerations"? If not, do so. I'd be interested in your take on them.

64 posted on 10/20/2006 12:15:15 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

This is an exaggeration just like the TTC is going to destroy America is an exaggeration. Pollo paquito


65 posted on 10/20/2006 12:21:40 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
This is an exaggeration just like the TTC is going to destroy America is an exaggeration. Pollo paquito

Again, did you view the videos? They show these kids reciting the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance. What exactly is being exaggerated?

66 posted on 10/20/2006 12:30:28 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
"What exactly is being exaggerated?"

The significance.

67 posted on 10/20/2006 12:42:32 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: kitkat

Have you ever read Dick Lamms speach on "America's Demise ?"

)))"We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."
"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream."(((


68 posted on 10/20/2006 2:34:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

BTTT for later read.


69 posted on 10/20/2006 4:11:40 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: B4Ranch

BTTT!


70 posted on 10/21/2006 5:50:53 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: gubamyster

BTTT


71 posted on 10/21/2006 7:05:22 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: 4Freedom

"Is this a great country or what!"

That's what the illegals and terrorists say.


72 posted on 10/21/2006 7:31:55 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
The significance.

Let them grow up in that enviroment of reconquest, get to voting age and the "significance" of the anti-Americanism will be very clear. This nation will be a sick ghost of itself.

73 posted on 10/21/2006 9:00:35 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso, Oct April 2006, TxMMP/MMP-LAREDO)
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To: Ben Ficklin
The significance.

So you'd be cool with your children being involved with something like this? Oy vey.

74 posted on 10/23/2006 10:27:18 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: TLI
This nation will be a sick ghost of itself.

Honor the Texas Flag of 1836; I pledge allegiance to Thee, Texas, One and Indivisible.

-Texas State Pledge of Allegiance, 1933-1965.


75 posted on 10/23/2006 2:14:58 PM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: jmc813
"something like this"

There-in lies the rub. 'Something' as you(the conspiracist groupies) see it, or 'something' as I see it.

In your subjective viewpoint, it is but one part of a much, much broader collectuon of 'somethings', which makes it more significant. Objectively, it a single incident and insignificant.

As part of the broader conspiracy, the details are irrelevant. As a single event, the details, or lack of details, or slanting of the details, are highly relevant and more important than the event.

76 posted on 10/24/2006 3:36:23 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
As a single event, the details, or lack of details, or slanting of the details, are highly relevant and more important than the event.

You've never mentioned whether or not you have viewed the video of this. I'm starting to suspect you never will.

77 posted on 10/24/2006 10:21:18 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

Did you view the video of yesterday's class? Last year's class?


78 posted on 10/24/2006 10:47:09 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Did you view the video of yesterday's class? Last year's class?

No, but I did watch the video linked above. You know, the one you refuse to even acknowlege whether you watched or not. Why is it so hard to denounce a foreign pledge of allegiance being recited by American students?

79 posted on 10/24/2006 10:57:08 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
You chose to see what you want to see. And you can respond to the situation as you chose to see it.

So, what are you going to do about it?

Nothing, except chat room rant.

80 posted on 10/24/2006 11:36:04 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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