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HATE FUROR AT PACE U. (Koran in toilet sparks outrage)
Associated Press ^ | 10/20/06

Posted on 10/20/2006 6:55:18 AM PDT by presidio9

Muslim activists called on Pace University yesterday to crack down on hate crimes after a second copy of the Koran was found in a toilet at its Manhattan campus.

"This incident meets the legal definition of a hate crime," said Aliya Latif, a member of the Association of Muslim American Lawyers. "Indeed, this is no different from placing a burning cross in front of a house or painting a swastika on a locker."

The discovery of the holy book in a toilet at Pace's lower Manhattan campus on Oct. 13 follows a similar act at Pace on Sept. 21.

Earlier this month, someone scrawled racial slurs on a student's car at the Westchester County campus and on a bathroom wall at the campus in lower Manhattan.

Pace officials had no immediate comment yesterday but have referred the matter to police. NYPD spokesman Detective Kevin Czartoryski said the investigation into the Koran desecrations

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
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1 posted on 10/20/2006 6:55:19 AM PDT by presidio9
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2 posted on 10/20/2006 6:56:26 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: presidio9
"This incident meets the legal definition of a hate crime," said Aliya Latif, a member of the Association of Muslim American Lawyers.
FU. Probably perpetrated by a member of a "peace loving" religion.
3 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: presidio9

This has to stop. It could do serious damage to the plumbing, maybe even cause a flood and wreck the plaster on the next floor down.


4 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:03 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: presidio9

How much do you want to bet both were plants to generate false outrage?


5 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: RockinRight

hate crime?...with no victim except the toilet in question?...where did this guy get his legal education?..at the Downtown Upstairs Law School?


6 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:47 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: presidio9

I'm waiting to find out that a Muslim did it to generate some sympathy...


7 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:49 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: presidio9

Yeah, well, that's exactly where it belongs.

I'm sure Aliya Latif would be deeply saddened to know that for the past four years, each September 11th, I've ripped the cover off a koran and burned the pages.  Then I cut the cover into the shape of shoe inserts and walk around on them all day.  I only do that for one day, because I don't like to have such evil so close to me.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.


8 posted on 10/20/2006 6:58:56 AM PDT by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: RockinRight
Thanks for the laugh!

On a more serious note, I wonder if the book in the toilet had been a Bible would these same people be screaming out loud and crying hate crime? I already know the answer.

9 posted on 10/20/2006 6:59:07 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: presidio9
A koran in a toilet is a hate crime? Then what is a crucifix in a bottle of urine? A painting of the Virgin Mary smeared with elephant dung? Oh that's right - that's art! Thin-skinned muzzies need to shut up.

P.S. The Manhattan campus of Pace is less than a mile from Ground Zero. Surprised there aren't any muslims stuffed in the toilet along with their 'holy' book!

10 posted on 10/20/2006 6:59:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: presidio9

If a koran in the crapper is a hate crime, what do you call 3000 dead and billions of dollars in property damage? "I just gotta be me"?


11 posted on 10/20/2006 6:59:41 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: presidio9

Ah. You can't help but love muslim extremism even when they whine. Putting koran in toilet where no one is around is not the same as going onto someone's property and burning a cross or scrawling a swastika on the locker of someone you know to be jewish.


12 posted on 10/20/2006 7:00:09 AM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: presidio9

I'm not surprised. People are sick to death of Muzzies. Get them out of America!


13 posted on 10/20/2006 7:00:39 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: RockinRight

Please don't squeeze the Koran.....


14 posted on 10/20/2006 7:00:50 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Armigerous

Stop Hate Crimes Against Toilets!!!


15 posted on 10/20/2006 7:00:56 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: presidio9

Hate Crime - people who got beheaded in the name of the religion of peace.


16 posted on 10/20/2006 7:01:33 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: presidio9

B.S., hate crime would be if someone killed these mooselimbs soeley on the fact that they are mooselimbs.


17 posted on 10/20/2006 7:01:55 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: tdewey10

In this, they give away their true feelings : That the personal, physical integrity of nonmoslems, even nonmoslem lives, are of less value than moslem emotions over seeing their worthless book 'desecrated' (personally, I think the commode was desecrated).


18 posted on 10/20/2006 7:02:23 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: presidio9
Indeed, this is no different from placing a burning cross in front of a house or painting a swastika on a locker.

I have to disagree here, since you're not, as far as we know, damaging someone else's property...Except for the toilet perhaps, and that would only occur if a flush were attempted.

19 posted on 10/20/2006 7:04:19 AM PDT by opus86
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To: presidio9

How exactly is any of this a crime? Ah well, the libs who were telling us all to chill out over Andres Serrano and piss Christ are now willing to walk on eggshells about Koran brand TP. Once upon a time America understood the concept of "F'em if they can't take a joke". The sooner the "hate crimes" laws go off the books the better.


20 posted on 10/20/2006 7:06:49 AM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: RockinRight

Yee Haaa, I love it.

Do you mind if I boost this jpg ?

I know right where to send it!!


21 posted on 10/20/2006 7:07:16 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: presidio9

"Silly muzzy wabbits! We wave ouw naughty bits in youh genewal diwection."
Biggus Diccus, Woman-Amewican


22 posted on 10/20/2006 7:08:05 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: presidio9

I just watched United 93. Those passengers had guts and like someone said, they were the first "soldiers" in this WOT. Watching how they depicted those Islamofascists, how they celebrated the hits on the WTC, how they killed the pilot, co-pilot, that passenger and flight attendant made me absolutely disgusted.

I have NO sympathy for Islam. They can call Christians and Jews pigs, apes and this nation is the "Great Satan" but they want to kill anyone who speak against their bloodthirsty "religion"? We shouldn't trust any of them.


23 posted on 10/20/2006 7:09:03 AM PDT by Sister_T (Conservative Bloggers are "Undocumented Journalists" ... doing the job "real journalists" won't do!)
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To: Sunshine Sister
I wonder if the book in the toilet had been a Bible...

That would be called 'artistic freedom' and would have a one month showing at the Met.

24 posted on 10/20/2006 7:10:54 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: tdewey10
Correct. If someone purchases a Koran they are free to do with it what they wish, as long as they don't injure someone with it.

This Koran owner shouldn't have blocked someone else's toilet with it, but his use of the Koran was far less destructive than the usual devout Koran owner's use of it.

25 posted on 10/20/2006 7:11:31 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Cicero

"This has to stop. It could do serious damage to the plumbing, maybe even cause a flood and wreck the plaster on the next floor down."

On the contrary, concerned Americans should start leaving pages of the holy book in EVERY urinal, every day. Time to show them how we truly feel about their "religion" of hate.


26 posted on 10/20/2006 7:11:50 AM PDT by newcthem (Brought to you by the INFIDEL PARTY)
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To: Al Gator

Sure. I googled it so it's really up to whomever hosted it!


27 posted on 10/20/2006 7:11:51 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: 91B

No fooling.

When I grew up, it was:

"Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me."

Of course, our self esteem really sucked, (according to today's psychobabblers) and we didn't feel victimized (too stupid I guess) and a bitchin fight behind the bleachers after school fixed stuff......


28 posted on 10/20/2006 7:12:21 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: 6SJ7

Sadly you are correct.


29 posted on 10/20/2006 7:12:32 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Cicero
This has to stop. It could do serious damage to the plumbing...

Kohler (PBH) or American Standard (PBH) would not be happy.

30 posted on 10/20/2006 7:14:28 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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I'm continually amazed that the only place a Koran ever ends up in a toilet is where there is a Muslim activist group around to make political hay of it.

Anyone have that image of the Vichy Inspector from Casablanca?

31 posted on 10/20/2006 7:15:04 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: presidio9
"This incident meets the legal definition of a hate crime"

It meets the definition of Federally Funded Art. (only if it was a Bible)

32 posted on 10/20/2006 7:15:25 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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"This incident meets the legal definition of a hate crime," said Aliya Latif, a member of the Association of Muslim American Lawyers. "Indeed, this is no different from placing a burning cross in front of a house or painting a swastika on a locker."

Then they would have to agree that when Saudi Arabia confiscates all bibles on people heading into that nation and burns them they are also committing a hate crime?

33 posted on 10/20/2006 7:17:23 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: pandoraou812; Disambiguator; tdewey10; Rummyfan; Sunshine Sister; Froufrou

Hate Crime.

Hate Crime.

Immature, but harmless college prank.

34 posted on 10/20/2006 7:22:17 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Was it a copy with perforations?


35 posted on 10/20/2006 7:23:59 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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36 posted on 10/20/2006 7:31:12 AM PDT by Gritty (Islam rejects Western liberty. True liberty is obedience to Allah - Sheikh Mohammed al-Tabatabi)
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To: presidio9

I hope this starts countless korans in the toilets of the world.


37 posted on 10/20/2006 7:33:01 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: Cicero

I am particularly disturbed at people showing hate to toilets like this. How disresepctful.

And think of the poor sewer and sanitation workers, having to see something like a koran.

And a rat may see a koran too. The poor animals!


38 posted on 10/20/2006 7:33:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: tkathy

"I hope this starts countless korans in the toilets of the world."

We could call it "The Koran Movement."


39 posted on 10/20/2006 7:35:15 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: dirtboy; presidio9

<< How much do you want to bet both were plants to generate false outrage? >>

Quite likely to create the appearance of rationalization and justification among the gullible.

Although in fact islamanazi outrage has sustained itself for fourteen hundred years so far without external stimuli.


40 posted on 10/20/2006 7:40:06 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: presidio9

Thanks...that says it all. I am so tired of whining, if they don't like it here then leave. I see no big deal in this except the one that they are making. So what if their Koran is in the toilet, I am sure they are doing the same to the bible. They are burning effigies of President Bush and the Pope but that is not a hate crime?


41 posted on 10/20/2006 7:41:49 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: Sunshine Sister
I wonder if the book in the toilet had been a Bible would these same people be screaming out loud and crying hate crime?

And would the AP refer to it as "the holy book?" Indeed, we already know the answer.

42 posted on 10/20/2006 7:49:25 AM PDT by Graymatter
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LOL


43 posted on 10/20/2006 7:54:18 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: presidio9

That would be the waste of a perfectly good Koran unless it was properly crapped on.


44 posted on 10/20/2006 8:06:29 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: Sister_T

We should deport all of them to their sandbox by the sea. They are entitled to that.


45 posted on 10/20/2006 8:10:16 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: presidio9
Check the number of articles on FR alone of muslim outrage. I don't think there are many things that do not outrage these demons.

muslim outrage

46 posted on 10/20/2006 8:14:32 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Friends don't let friends vote for RATS.)
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To: WashingtonSource

I believe that it will come to that, unless we stand around waiting for the mudslimes to breed into the majority.


47 posted on 10/20/2006 8:14:52 AM PDT by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: dirtboy

Right out of the CAIR handbook..


48 posted on 10/20/2006 8:35:23 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

It's proper place would be adjacent to the toilet, so one page at a time could utilized..


49 posted on 10/20/2006 8:36:30 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: presidio9

Gee, whiz! One of the reasons I know we have to beat these b--turds. These animals are so ignorant they failed to learn there were such things as printing presses. Willing to bet there have been millions of Bibles burned over the centuries. We just printed more since we're not stupid!!!


50 posted on 10/20/2006 8:37:22 AM PDT by texaslil (and)
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