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Former Maryland delegate gets purported Diebold code
Baltimore Sun ^ | October 20, 2006 | Melissa Harris

Posted on 10/20/2006 10:30:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Diebold Election Systems Inc. expressed alarm and state election officials contacted the FBI yesterday after a former legislator received an anonymous package containing what appears to be the computer code that ran Maryland's polls in 2004.

Cheryl C. Kagan, a longtime critic of Maryland's elections chief, says the fact that the computer disks were sent to her - along with an unsigned note criticizing the management of the state elections board - demonstrates that Maryland's voting system faces grave security threats.

spokesman for Diebold, which manufactures the state's touch-screen voting machines, said the company is treating the software Kagan received as "stolen" and not as "picked up" at the State Board of Elections, as the anonymous note claimed. Lawyers for the company are seeking its return.

....Kagan, a former state Democratic delegate from Montgomery County who is now executive director of the Carl M. Freeman Foundation, said the disks were delivered to her office Wednesday.

An accompanying letter refers to the State Board of Elections and calls Kagan "the proud recipient of an 'abandoned baby Diebold source code' right from SBE accidentally picked up in this envelope, right in plain view at SBE. ... You have the software because you are a credible person who can save the state from itself. You must alert the media and save democracy."

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electronic; polls; voting
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1 posted on 10/20/2006 10:30:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This doesn't make any sense. Why in the world was source code at the State Board of Elections? If the state needed to certify the security measures at the source level, then Diebold would have required it be performed in secure facilities in a Diebold building. This smells more like an insider at Diebold sending out the source.

Is this the end for electronic voting?


2 posted on 10/20/2006 10:35:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Track it down, and we will find Democrat operatives involved.


3 posted on 10/20/2006 10:35:46 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

Probably Kagan.


4 posted on 10/20/2006 10:36:53 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If you read the article, the disks came from independent testing companies, not from Diebold.


5 posted on 10/20/2006 10:37:19 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; ecomcon
....You must alert the media ...

Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr REPUBLICAN is ahead in the polls.

The Dems are doing what Dems do.

6 posted on 10/20/2006 10:39:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cinives

Still, what is with their security and escrow measures? And why was source at the board of elections? And why wasn't Diebold monitoring the security measures in effect at the independent testing agency. The whole things smells regardless.


7 posted on 10/20/2006 10:44:34 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: All
More:

Ross Goldstein, the state's deputy elections administrator, said Maryland now uses version 4.6 and that the public should be confident that their votes are secure.

The disks contain "nothing that's being used in this election," Goldstein said.

Diebold marketing director Mark Radke said the company is investigating the chain of custody of the disks and is asking its testing companies to pull their logs.

"These disks contain codes used for testing purposes," Radke said. "They were shipped from the testing authority. Diebold was never in the chain of custody."

Older versions of Diebold's computer code have long been in public circulation, including the copy discovered by Rubin.

___________________________

But it makes a headline and fodder for the drive-by media.

8 posted on 10/20/2006 10:44:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Some tratoros scum at the company! Its no good to let this code out to the MMM - itll turn into the wrong kind of story. What if the code is how to win elections???


9 posted on 10/20/2006 10:45:21 AM PDT by Weep-o-crat Hunter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It all boils down to this people. The democrats have a much harder time stuffing ballot boxes with the computer system than they do with punch cards and the other more primitive voting systems, so the democrats want to discredit the computer system so that they can go back to the old system which is much easier to cheat with. It is as simple as that.
10 posted on 10/20/2006 10:47:12 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: Hendrix

And with races being close, they're going to play this card for all their worth.


11 posted on 10/20/2006 10:48:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
On the face of it, this seems like insurance in case the Dems lose so they can claim voter fraud.

Maryland already has enough problems with precinct judges showing up.

12 posted on 10/20/2006 10:49:25 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Hendrix
I'm sure the democrats are pissed at the democrat Florida volunteers who were in charge of punching all the cards down in Flordia during the Bush/Gore election who did not do it right and left a lot of hanging chads, etc. My bet is that the volunteers were trying to punch several cards at once and that is why they did not punch cleanly.
13 posted on 10/20/2006 10:49:53 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Is this the end for electronic voting?

I'd be fine with that - anybody to dumb to use a lever machine is also too dumb to vote.

14 posted on 10/20/2006 10:50:10 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Hendrix

Wasn't it Democrats who demanded idiot proof voting machines?


15 posted on 10/20/2006 10:50:56 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Hendrix
The democrats have a much harder time stuffing ballot boxes with the computer system than they do with punch cards and the other more primitive voting systems

And looked at from another angle, what better way to throw the Republic into turmoil than to cast doubt on the election process itself.

Can't figure out if it's foreign terrorists or those of the domestic stripe (Democrats).

16 posted on 10/20/2006 10:51:07 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"This smells more like an insider at Diebold sending out the source. "

Since this is an old version, and a version only used for test, and is not controlled or secret, it's far more likely that a democrat mailed it to himself and called a press conference.

Electronic voting problems will disappear from the news once a version comes out that CAN be used to steal elections. It's just too hard withe the current technology, and returning power to the voters is just too frightening for (some) to consider.
17 posted on 10/20/2006 10:51:50 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The source code used for programming the system in the machine doesn't mean a thing. It doesn't really matter how many people know the code. The source code is compiled for runtime. There are many encryption programs available for which all source is in the public domain. Knowing the source code means nothing. The only thing this story proves is...people who don't learn some computer fundamentals can easily be provoked by others.


18 posted on 10/20/2006 10:53:28 AM PDT by gb63
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To: Retired Chemist

"Wasn't it Democrats who demanded idiot proof voting machines?"

No. It is true that they want it idiot proof for all the homeless people they pay to vote democrat, but they also want it easy to sit in a back room and stuff ballot boxes. With a computer, it is harder to do that and it may even leave a trace (there may be some hidden code that would detect it). With a paper ballot, the democrats can sit in a back room and punch away with no trace.


19 posted on 10/20/2006 10:54:05 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: MD4Bush

ping


20 posted on 10/20/2006 10:54:45 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: ecomcon

#20


21 posted on 10/20/2006 10:56:31 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
..you are a credible person who can save the state from itself.

Sounds like self promotion

22 posted on 10/20/2006 10:59:06 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: Pete

My understanding is that there are places in Maryland and in Philly where more people vote than are registered to vote. Statistically, it is practically impossible for the high voter percentage in certain Florida districts during the Bush/Gore election, which shows voter fraud but which was reported at high levels of voter turnout, etc. It is all about cheating.


23 posted on 10/20/2006 10:59:09 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: DBrow
Electronic voting problems will disappear from the news once a version comes out that CAN be used to steal elections.

Princeton techies have already shown that votes can be stolen using electronic voting-- because it's easy to install a virus on machines that use insertable cards. Microsoft spends way more in R&D than Diebold and they can't even stop the installation of malicious software.

24 posted on 10/20/2006 10:59:23 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: DBrow

I meant to add that it only takes having someone on the inside of the electioneering process to have the software installed-- and there are a lot of people on the inside (of both ideologies).


25 posted on 10/20/2006 11:02:03 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; PJ-Comix; Registered
From the producers of the DaVinci code comes the blockbuster thrill ride of the year.

Starring Will Rivers Pit, Bev Harris, and Karl Rove as an albino Jesuit.

Coming this November from Twenty First Century Farce

The Diebold Code.

26 posted on 10/20/2006 11:03:06 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Politics ain't beanbag. Make it a Rovetember to remember)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Is this the end for electronic voting?

I dunno. If it arrived in an envelope, I guarantee you that it is on the Internet. When we locate it, I wonder if we can post it here?

27 posted on 10/20/2006 11:08:44 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: gb63
Knowing the source code means nothing.

Oh, really? Tell Adobe, AutoDesk, and Microsoft that you have their source code published for free on the Internet. Good luck.

28 posted on 10/20/2006 11:13:27 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

The compiled code is on a portable disk. The disk can be set by sliding a 'lock' so it is read-only. The company supplies a CRC checksum which is a very long number. If you change any one byte anywhere in the code, the CRC will change. You can place the read-only disk in a laptop and within a few seconds run a check on the compiled code. The Democrat can check it. The Republican can check it. Then the disk is inserted into the voting machine. After election close, the disk can be stored and checked anytime in the future.


29 posted on 10/20/2006 11:14:03 AM PDT by gb63
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To: Weep-o-crat Hunter

Ummmm.......yeah.


30 posted on 10/20/2006 11:16:39 AM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

"Tell Adobe, AutoDesk, and Microsoft"
You misunderstand my point. You cannot cheat in the election simply because you have the written source code for the election machine. It means nothing in and of itself.


31 posted on 10/20/2006 11:17:14 AM PDT by gb63
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To: right-wingin_It

LOL!! You're bad


32 posted on 10/20/2006 11:17:15 AM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Cheryl C. Kagan, a longtime critic of Maryland's elections chief, says the fact that the computer disks were sent to her - along with an unsigned note criticizing the management of the state elections board - demonstrates that Maryland's voting system faces grave security threats.

Check it for fingerprints. Compare to members of CREW and you may just get match...

33 posted on 10/20/2006 11:21:53 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Hendrix
so the democrats want to discredit the computer system so that they can go back to the old system which is much easier to cheat with.

The old system requires dozens of conspirators. The new system only requires a couple of geeks.
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34 posted on 10/20/2006 11:22:30 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Crosslinked to The Vote Fraud Archives: ( Click the picture )


35 posted on 10/20/2006 11:26:16 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: gb63
The disk can be set by sliding a 'lock' so it is read-only.

Brilliant! Exactly how is a read-only disk going to "write" the votes? My point is that if the source code is available, someone will write malicious code and run it. Guaranteed.

36 posted on 10/20/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: mugs99

"dozens of conspirators"
Don't I remember someone in Florida (?) having a ballot box in his car? Could be wrong....


37 posted on 10/20/2006 11:30:05 AM PDT by gb63
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To: darkwing104

I smell a possible troll...please investigate.


38 posted on 10/20/2006 11:33:42 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Weep-o-crat Hunter

Huh?


39 posted on 10/20/2006 11:34:26 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is precisely why there MUST be a paper record of electronic voting. If you have electronic voting without a paper record, where the person can see the paper record of his own vote, then you are asking for manipulation of elections by manipulations of the code.

Indeed, given the whole history of electoral corruption in every nation in the world, including the US, whoever believes that you can have voting done into a black box with no paper check on the black box to verify what was input is what was registered, is naive. Who ever argues against having a paper record is either naive, or very intelligent and knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

Electronic voting without paper backup records for verification is guaranteed to be corrupt, manipulated voting. If the Republicans aren't ALREADY manipulating the electronic voting sans backup paper, the Democrats most certainly WILL when they get power, and then you will never see another Republican majority again, because the machine codes will generate the votes necessary to ensure a Democratic win, and the Democratically-controlled government will never allow the issue to be opened to investigation. End of game. And end of democracy.

That is why everyone should assume that whoever wants electronic voting without any paper backup is intending to commit election fraud. Because they are.


40 posted on 10/20/2006 11:36:56 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (The Crown is amused.)
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To: Vicomte13

"paper record of his own vote,"
That is exactly what I would like implemented. Vote with a secure electronic machine, which would produce one or more numbered written receipts. The voter would take away a receipt. If a particular election was legally protested, the judge could invite voters to bring in their copies for comparsion.


41 posted on 10/20/2006 11:46:16 AM PDT by gb63
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To: Retired Chemist
Wasn't it Democrats who demanded idiot proof voting machines?

Certainly was true here in Georgia.

42 posted on 10/20/2006 11:49:28 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Vicomte13
Who ever argues against having a paper record is either naive, or very intelligent and knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

But we sure got those lottery machines secured. Try going to the lottery office, and saying "I picked the winning numbers! Ticket? Oh, I don't have any sort of paper receipt...just trust me, I picked 'em!"
43 posted on 10/20/2006 11:54:49 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You are right, it does smell. I too wonder why the source ever left the testing centers; I smell 'Rat conspiracy.


44 posted on 10/20/2006 12:10:30 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
The linked video should not stand as proof that the hack can be done. Note that they boot the machine with, supposedly, a memory card that loads the software. The machine must be left powered for the new 'ware to run, and rebooting the machine with the correct card will load the real software when the machine is rebooted. Unless, of course, the felon has "simply" opened the machine and replaced the boot eeprom with a fake copy.

The report mentioned in the video does state that there are security seals on the memory cards, locks, boards, and so forth but references another report that says that these seals are not always checked.

So the simple solution is to check the seals before an election, and always assure that the machine is booted with the correct card, then have its port sealed with a new security seal.

If there are questions, the malware will stay installed on either the tampered card or in the boot eeprom (unless it is bright enough to know that it has been moved to an FBI Forensic Computer Lab and deletes itself), and the forensic examiner will find it (if the operating system can boot it, a human can find it too). At that point, a criminal investigation begins. If the malware can be decompiled, the vote shifting algorithm can be determined and the vote count corrected. At worst, the machine's count can be discarded like badly voted paper ballots.

As for a virus spreading from machine to machine through a LAN, why then, let's install firewalls and virus checkers in the lan! And let's ask a third party virus company to make a virus/malware checker memory card for the voting machine while we are at it.

Where I vote, with paper ballots, the boxes all have seals.

Another thought- the video images offer no proof whatsoever that the voiceover is correct.

45 posted on 10/20/2006 12:19:11 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Indeed. Looking at two-year-old software of an active project is like looking at a photo album from the family vacation when you were six years old.


46 posted on 10/20/2006 12:23:41 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: gb63
"the judge could invite voters to bring in their copies for comparsion."

Union bosses, too. Plus, I can tell the homeless guy that he gets his carton of smokes AFTER he comes out of the booth, and a certain Reverend can offer the Poke Chop Dinner to certain receipt holders, day of or after the election.

Making reciepts mandatory would sure make your investment in a vote more secure!

And, of course, the little printer and roll of tape could NEVER be duplicated outside the voting precinct, so if there were 10,000 votes cast and they all responded to the judges call, only 10,000 receipts would show up, and they'd all be originals.
47 posted on 10/20/2006 12:25:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: gb63
Don't I remember someone in Florida (?) having a ballot box in his car? Could be wrong....

You don't swing an election with one ballot box in the trunk of a car. You also have to consider how many poll wotkers knew about the ballot box in the trunk of the car.

Bussing is the most common form of election fraud. Bussing requires hundreds being bussed from precinct to precinct. If they haven't been able to catch any of those being bussed, how are they going to catch a couple of computer geeks?
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48 posted on 10/20/2006 12:33:23 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: DBrow

"could NEVER be duplicated outside"
It would be possible to print a PGP-type text at the bottom of each receipt, that would not be possible to generate outside the machine. It would be different for each receipt, but by court order could be de-encryted back to a known text verifying that it was an original from that machine at that time. There are many ways to secure electronic voting in the future that would eliminate dead and duplicate voters and other comman frauds. Of course, the examples of bribery you cited might remain.


49 posted on 10/20/2006 12:41:25 PM PDT by gb63
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To: gb63
iirc it was a ballot box, plus a voting machine.

Maybe two separate issues, but for sure one of the election officials got caught with a punchcard machine without valid reason for having one.

(unless it's valid to take handfuls of already-voted ballots and gang-punch them for Gore, which at the very least removes a Bush vote through overvote and at best adds a Gore Chad for an undervote, no change if it's already a Gore Chad)
50 posted on 10/20/2006 12:42:36 PM PDT by DBrow
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