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Americans orchestrating own doom
Scripps Howard News Service ^ | 10/22/6 | DALE MCFEATTERS

Posted on 10/21/2006 10:38:35 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; mcswan; posterkid; ...

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21 posted on 10/22/2006 1:00:28 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: SmithL
Liberals want us to rely on them. They are indoctrinating our children to wait for help rather than learn how to survive on their own in the world.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

22 posted on 10/22/2006 1:02:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FARS; odds
ODDS: I don't have specific stats but, generally speaking, I believe some Asian countries such as Japan, China and Singapore (even a European country such as Germany) are much more concrete-oriented & 'prescriptive' - subjects such as high level math and physics are much more valued and encouraged. The U.S. is more abstract-oriented in comparison.

Personally, I love statistics. Some people hate them. I can understand why. Statistics are an analytical prehensile limb – but how coordinated is the mind that employs them? I would look at tools instead of grades… that’s right, I’d drop the usual infatuation with grades and curriculums and instead look at tool sales. Think about it, who actually uses physics every day? I’m an engineer and enjoy solving high level math and physics problems – but let me tell you a secret – the guy with the tools gets the job done. More often than not, it’s the guy working the machines who offers a new destiny. Afterward, the more politically apt engineers and managers inject the creative genius of their subordinates into the appropriate stream of consciousness. I think that the mechanics of change in society have similarities be they products, law or any other aspect of culture.

Case in point; the apartheid regime of South Africa had to go. That was a required change. Post revolutionary governmental incompetence is an entirely independent issue. The Truth and Reconciliation project was and remains a model for post revolutionary politics. What remains to be resolved in South Africa does not absolve the apartheid regime of its dysfunction.

23 posted on 10/22/2006 1:04:57 AM PDT by humint (...err the least and endure! --- VDH)
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To: nathanbedford
Skinner is easily refuted by George Thorogood.

B-B-B-B Bad to the Bone.
24 posted on 10/22/2006 1:15:16 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: lesser_satan

>>Is it really even possible for a "faggot" to be "pussy whipped"? It seems to me the whole notion of being "pussy whipped" presupposes the condition of having the aforementioned portion of the female anatomy conditionally withheld until some task the aforementioned female wishes one to perform is fulfilled, hence holding no sway over someone who is of the homosexual persuasion.
<<

I was making a reference to th dialog in the movie !

The original cut of DEMOLITION MAN


25 posted on 10/22/2006 1:17:46 AM PDT by marc costanzo (The Only Good Liberal is Dead Liberal, Pure and Simple ! ! !)
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To: marc costanzo

I know, I just was being a wise-ass. Demolition Man is one of my favorite movies.


26 posted on 10/22/2006 1:23:11 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: humint

>>Case in point; the apartheid regime of South Africa had to go. That was a required change. Post revolutionary governmental incompetence is an entirely independent issue. The Truth and Reconciliation project was and remains a model for post revolutionary politics. What remains to be resolved in South Africa does not absolve the apartheid regime of its dysfunction.<<

Nor should aparthied be used as a scapegoat or source of excuses for all that has gone wrong South Africa since 1995 .

In many ways, South Africa was better off under that old regime, than the current corruption, ineptitude and lawlessnes that marks every and now all Black Majority Ruled African nations .

The fall of aparthied gave that Mugabe in Zimbawe the license to turn his government into another Robber Barron potentate, so typical of all Sub-Saharan countries .

Black Majority Rule = Mob Rule .

Both there and what we've seen in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina .


27 posted on 10/22/2006 1:25:57 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: sizzlemeister
Where are all the kids playing football in vacant lots?

With smaller families, the kid density in neighborhoods means fewer pick up games. People decry all of the organized sports kids are playing these days, but face it, it's gonna be organized to get enough kids together in one place to play some sports.

During the summer, my young adult sons regularly play pick up games of baseball (hardball) in the city, where they live. Basketball is the game of choice for most city kids these days.

Where are all the kids playing street hockey? I don't see it in my bucolic little corner of the country.

My sons played it some, as well as many other sports, both organized & pick up games.

As to the article, mention of binomial theorem, don't know about the rest of the nation's schools, but I know I had to relearn trinomials to help my sons with their homework. Then again, I had a recent conversation with one of my sons about converting numbers into various numeric bases. During the drive between my house & the store, I taught him how to convert numbers into base three, base eight & then some others which were higher than ten. Learning can & does take place outside of school...

28 posted on 10/22/2006 1:28:28 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: nathanbedford
B F Skinner's WALDEN TWO, yes, I did a comparative essay on that work with Orwell's ANIMAL FARM .

Problem was there was no comparison to be made with the two tomes .

Their conclusions were completely different and their characters had no parallels with each other .

Only a basis in Secular Utopian Writing- but that is where the concepts end - -
29 posted on 10/22/2006 1:30:00 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: BIGLOOK; NathanBedfordForrest

George Thurgood & The Destroyers .



Nature versus nurture- both have validity .

But a inherited trait is a persuasion, not a predetermination !

The nature of Creative Intelligence is that we are not Hardwired to be anything ! !



The first time I heard that song: Bad To The Bone,
was not on the soundtrack of John Carpenter's CHRISTINE of 1983, it was a 1982 movie called SLAYGROUND, which was actually more gruesome and scary !
And no it was not a slasher nor horror film . .


30 posted on 10/22/2006 1:38:05 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: humint
I’m an engineer and enjoy solving high level math and physics problems – but let me tell you a secret – the guy with the tools gets the job done.

The best engineers are those that can also turn the wrench. A wrench man will know a standard thread pitch, while a non-wrench engineer will read in one of his books what the best pitch should be for an application, even if a bolt has to be specially made to comply with his design.

31 posted on 10/22/2006 1:44:08 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: humint; FARS

Yes, I wasn’t suggesting that concrete is more valuable than abstract or even vice versa.

Personally and as a psychologist, I agree with you regarding 'tools' versus 'grades'. I don't think that they teach or put sufficient emphasis on practical or ‘softer’ skills in schools or universities – even in some Western countries. The MBA program, for example, is an exception.

"Tools" or to use a psych term "competencies" such as: influencing skills, leadership, creativity, innovation, initiative, tenacity, etc. are largely abstract and are essential for making things happen; not only in personal/social life but also professionally in many fields.

A balance between abstract and concrete is critical. Concrete gives one a model or a framework, whereas abstract enables one to successfully apply the concrete. I also believe that, unfortnately, concrete subjects (specifically cognitive abilities) are viewed and in most cases are easier taught. The ability to act in more abstract terms is more time consuming and needs to be continuously nurtured from a young age.

Btw - I like statistics too and statistics show that statistics are simply indications – a means to an end, not an end in itself. It is the analysis, interpretation and application of stats that matter the most.


32 posted on 10/22/2006 1:53:48 AM PDT by odds
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To: FARS

check out this article on AntiMullah about how we should wake up.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2006/10/learn-america-learn-and-fast.html

Thanks so much for the ping!!!


33 posted on 10/22/2006 2:00:10 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SmithL; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; ...
The author left out about how the do gooder anti's (living off of the smoker's tax dollars) are going into private businesses all across the United States and forcing smoking bans! Private businesses are forced to close or worse!
34 posted on 10/22/2006 2:05:22 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: goldstategop

" They are indoctrinating our children to wait for help rather than learn how to survive on their own in the world. "

How right you are!!

In the coming Depression (and there *will* be one), it will be interesting to see our population separate into two distinct groups: Those who "do", and Those who "have done for them".

Imagine Post-Katrina on a national scale -- millions upon millions (unprepared/unable/unwilling to "do for themselves") helplessly, stubbornly, waiting for - DEMANDING - *somebody* to rescue and take care of them. And dying in their multitudes when the help and care is not forthcoming.

"Dependency" is *not* a survival trait.


35 posted on 10/22/2006 2:21:25 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Stop the "tyranny of the 'offended' " -- say what you mean and stand by it!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Question: How do American home schooled children come out on these world tests?


37 posted on 10/22/2006 2:57:58 AM PDT by Paulus
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To: SmithL

"No playing tag, and no competition in any sport for that matter. In fact, no competition - PERIOD! We are all winners here. I have ZERO TOLERANCE."

38 posted on 10/22/2006 3:28:38 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SmithL
Almost everyone I work with who has kids spends most weekday evenings and some weekends running hither and yon to soccer games, basketball games, etc. to watch their kids play. Maybe they're getting exercise somewhere else?

Carolyn

39 posted on 10/22/2006 3:43:33 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: SmithL
When I was but a wee lad my mother refused to let me play with any sort of gun toy. I responded by using anything and everything even remotely gun shaped as an imaginary firearm.

She finally relented and started getting me G.I. Joes after I started using pickles as pistols.

I'd imagine its the same way with a good chunk of the pint sized proto-men.
40 posted on 10/22/2006 4:00:40 AM PDT by Anvilhead (Dammit Jim, I'm an Ameri-can not an Ameri-can't.)
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