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SAUNDERS: No force border enforcement
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | October 22, 2006 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 10/22/2006 8:06:21 AM PDT by SmithL

SOMEONE OUGHT to tell the Bush administration that prisons are for criminals, not law-enforcement personnel trying to do their jobs. On Thursday, a federal judge in Texas sentenced two former Border Patrol agents to 11 and 12 years in prison because they shot at a drug smuggler who was evading arrest.

In February 2005, Border Patrol agent Jose Alonso Compean got in a scuffle with smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, who was driving a van that carried 743 pounds of marijuana. Compean and fellow agent Ignacio Ramos shot at Aldrete-Davila -- they say they thought he had a gun, which Aldrete-Davila denies. Ramos shot the smuggler in the butt, but because Aldrete-Davila kept running -- across the border -- they said they thought they did not hit him. The agents picked up their shells and failed to report the shooting. For that violation of agency policy, Ramos and Compean deserved an administrative review and some sort of job-related punishment.

Instead, due to a case of blind and bloodthirsty federal prosecutorial overkill, Ramos and Compean were sentenced to 11 years and 12 years respectively. Oh, and the smuggler was granted immunity for the 743 pounds of pot, and is suing the federal government for $5 million. Crime pays, while going after criminals can land you hard time in prison.

On the government's side, I should mention: A jury found the two agents guilty of assault with a dangerous weapon, discharge of a firearm during a violent crime, obstructing justice, lying about the incident and willfully violating the Fourth Amendment right of Aldrete-Davila -- who was in the U.S. illegally, not to be mention smuggling drugs -- to be free from illegal seizure. Now three jurors have signed statements saying they were pressured into a guilty verdict,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; borderpatrol; crimigration; illegalinvasion; immigration; jailingthegoodguys; jorgearbustoisback; lareconquista; noenforcement; porousborder; travestyofjustice

1 posted on 10/22/2006 8:06:22 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The scumbag here is obviously not the BP agents.

And it isn't the smuggler, either.

Rather, it's the prosecutor.


2 posted on 10/22/2006 8:12:48 AM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: SmithL
Now three jurors have signed statements saying they were pressured into a guilty verdict,

Well it's kinda of too late now, how come they didn't stick to their positions in the jury room.

3 posted on 10/22/2006 8:14:49 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Depending on what the circumstances are, that could be the basis for a new trial, at least.
5 posted on 10/22/2006 8:23:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: SmithL
Thanks for posting this. I missed the thread Thursday that announced this. What a travesty!

Saunders has it right:

In order to spare the agents and their families from further anguish and legal bills, Bush should commute the agents' sentences now. If ever an act of compassionate conservatism was needed, this is it.

6 posted on 10/22/2006 8:23:53 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SmithL

Bush should pardon the agents. The prosecutor should by lynched.


7 posted on 10/22/2006 8:24:26 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984
Bush should pardon the agents. The prosecutor should by lynched.

Johnny Sutton, US Attorney responsible for this. http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/us_attorney/index.html [snip] Mr. Sutton also serves as the chairman of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee (AGAC) which plays a significant role in determining policies and programs of the Department and in carrying out the national goals set by the President and the Attorney General. The AGAC consists of 17 members appointed by the Attorney General and represents different judicial circuits, various-sized offices, and expertise. Mr. Sutton also serves on the Border and Immigration Law Enforcement Subcommittee of the AGAC.

US Attorney Johnny SuttonPrior to becoming United States Attorney, Mr. Sutton served as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and as a Policy Coordinator for the Bush-Cheney Transition Team assigned to the Department of Justice.

Mr. Sutton served as the Criminal Justice Policy Director for then-Governor George W. Bush from 1995-2000, advising the Governor on all criminal justice issues, with specific oversight in the areas of criminal law, prison capacity and management, parole operations and legislative initiatives. Prior to his service in the Governor’s office, Mr. Sutton worked as a criminal trial prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney’s Office (Houston, Texas) for eight years.

As a prosecutor, he was lead trial counsel in over sixty felony cases, including numerous capital murder, aggravated robbery, and sexual assault cases. He is fluent in Spanish, having appeared as a television commentator for the Spanish language network Univision during the Selena homicide trial.

8 posted on 10/22/2006 8:31:38 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: MBB1984
Bush should pardon the agents. The prosecutor should by lynched.

Johnny Sutton, US Attorney responsible for this. http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/us_attorney/index.html [snip] Mr. Sutton also serves as the chairman of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee (AGAC) which plays a significant role in determining policies and programs of the Department and in carrying out the national goals set by the President and the Attorney General. The AGAC consists of 17 members appointed by the Attorney General and represents different judicial circuits, various-sized offices, and expertise. Mr. Sutton also serves on the Border and Immigration Law Enforcement Subcommittee of the AGAC.

US Attorney Johnny SuttonPrior to becoming United States Attorney, Mr. Sutton served as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and as a Policy Coordinator for the Bush-Cheney Transition Team assigned to the Department of Justice.

Mr. Sutton served as the Criminal Justice Policy Director for then-Governor George W. Bush from 1995-2000, advising the Governor on all criminal justice issues, with specific oversight in the areas of criminal law, prison capacity and management, parole operations and legislative initiatives. Prior to his service in the Governor’s office, Mr. Sutton worked as a criminal trial prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney’s Office (Houston, Texas) for eight years.

As a prosecutor, he was lead trial counsel in over sixty felony cases, including numerous capital murder, aggravated robbery, and sexual assault cases. He is fluent in Spanish, having appeared as a television commentator for the Spanish language network Univision during the Selena homicide trial.

9 posted on 10/22/2006 8:31:53 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Sorry for the double post, need coffee....


10 posted on 10/22/2006 8:34:27 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: SmithL
the smuggler was granted immunity for the 743 pounds of pot, and is suing the federal government for $5 million. Crime pays.

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And Lynn Stewart was "sentenced to 28 months from a possible 30 year bid for helping Blind Shiek communicate with al queida. This is the arena in which the leftists operate. Even a conservative SCOTUS is too far left for me. These guys have been lawyers too long. Gen. George Washington tried Major John Andre, Benedict Arnold's British conspirator, by military tribunal and ordered Andre hanged within 10 days of his capture. Nazi saboteurs, including an American citizen, captured on U.S. soil during World War II were tried in secret by military commission and promptly executed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. (Ann Coulter column 10/06)

The republican strategy for 08 has to include judicial reform. Everything starts in the courts, not the congress. We make a big show of passing laws but never enforce them. the law is actually used by traitors and subversives to destroy the U.S.Constitution. These border patrol agents should become a rallying point for the opponents of illegal immigration, defenders of the 2nd amendment,anti ACLU activists, and all freedom loving defenders of the constitution. No way should these guys serve one minute of jail time for defending our boarder. No way should a captured drug dealer be allowed to go free in return for testimony that incarcerates officers who bravely defended our border and our laws.
11 posted on 10/22/2006 8:36:36 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: WatchingInAmazement

BTTT


12 posted on 10/22/2006 8:37:48 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: SmithL

Hmmm, a Mexican Drug cartel either bought two borders guards or a federal prosecutor. Either way drug dealers in Mexico own part of our government. Hmmm, is that why Bush refuses to do anything about the border?


13 posted on 10/22/2006 8:47:12 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: WatchingInAmazement
He is fluent in Spanish

Probably helps when he's conversing with the traffickers in the Mexican government who pressured him into going after the two agents.

The Narco-Trafficker gangs are celebrating today because now they know for sure: they control the border.

14 posted on 10/22/2006 8:51:34 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: WatchingInAmazement
He is fluent in Spanish, having appeared as a television commentator for the Spanish language network Univision during the Selena homicide trial.

Before anyone makes abig deal out of this, I'd remind them that the two agents, Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos, are also Hispanic and most likely also speak Spanish. Professionally for certain, possibly socially as well.

15 posted on 10/22/2006 8:59:21 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
I'd remind them that the two agents, Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos, are also Hispanic and most likely also speak Spanish.

Point taken. And here's the irony. On the other threads about this subject anyone defending the agents were called "racists". Go figure.

16 posted on 10/22/2006 9:04:02 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: SmithL
..............Now three jurors have signed statements saying they were pressured into a guilty verdict,........

So what happens next ? Why isn't this a huge story on it's own ?

17 posted on 10/22/2006 9:07:46 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: SmithL

So much for the war on drugs. Oh, and a drug smuggler with over 700 lbs. of dope doesn't have a gun? Yeah, right. This country has become so backwards. Laws are laws, one would think it's pretty much black or white, yet its become more of a grey area. I don't understand it.


18 posted on 10/22/2006 9:20:42 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: El Gato
I'd remind them that the two agents, Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos, are also Hispanic and most likely also speak Spanish.

Of course they speak Spanish, it is a requirement to be a Border Patrol agent.

19 posted on 10/22/2006 9:26:17 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: SmithL
Bio:  
Cardone, Kathleen
Born 1953 in Medina, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Western District of Texas
Nominated by George W. Bush on May 1, 2003, to a new seat created by 116 Stat. 1758; Confirmed by the Senate on July 28, 2003, and received commission on July 29, 2003.

Education:
State University of New York at Binghamton, B.A., 1976

St. Marys School of Law, J.D., 1979

Professional Career:
Briefing attorney, Hon. Philip A. Schraub, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas, 1979-1980
Private practice, Texas, 1980-1990
Judge, Municipal Court for the City of El Paso, Texas, 1983-1990
Associate judge, Family Law Court of Texas, 1990-1995
Judge, 383rd Judicial District Court of Texas, 1995-1996
Attorney/mediator, Texas Arbitration Mediation Services, 1997-1999
Instructor (part-time), El Paso Community College, 1997-2003
Judge, 388th Judicial District Court of Texas, 1999-2000
Mediator, Texas Arbitration Mediation Services, 2001-2003
Visiting judge, State of Texas, 2001-2003

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Female

I don't know how many times I have read on FR .......
Vote Republican for the judges, for the judges, for the judges, for the judges, for the judges, for the jud..........

This case kind of blows that argument about why we all MUST vote Republican straight out into the manure pile. Any more Bush appointed judges like this bitch and we'll all be speaking Arabic, Chinese and Spanish. English will be the 4th language spoken here.

20 posted on 10/22/2006 9:36:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: SmithL

This is so outrageous I just want to scream.

These liberal judges need to be impeached!


21 posted on 10/22/2006 10:59:52 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: B4Ranch

See post #8


22 posted on 10/22/2006 11:17:20 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: John Williams
The government has made perfectly clear that it doesn't want enforcement of the U.S./Mexico border and that any honest attempts to do so by Border Patrol agents will result in very, very harsh punishment.

And the illegal aliens and drug smugglers are VERY aware of this and will know exactly what to say if caught to set up more law enforcement agents for prosecution and lawsuits.

S. gonna H.T.F.N.

And the out of control fed prosecuters are fully to blame.

No telling what this will do to recruting quality personnel for Border Patrol.

23 posted on 10/22/2006 1:25:35 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso, Oct April 2006, TxMMP/MMP-LAREDO)
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To: B4Ranch

I'm with you on this one. I get sick of being told that I have to vote for "the lesser of two evils" or else I'm a traitor to the cause. I'll be voting third party or for nobody in many cases from now on.

It's not about winning, it's about digging in and doing the right thing. So long as the politico$ understand that we are voting lesser of two evils they will try to get the "big tent" going and throw true conservativism out into the dung heap in the process.


25 posted on 10/22/2006 2:43:17 PM PDT by soldier143 (Veteran OIF, getting ready to go back again (put me in coach I"m ready to fight again))
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To: soldier143

I was sorry that I held my nose the past few times. Never again will I hold my nose to vote for an elected official.


26 posted on 10/22/2006 3:56:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: soldier143
I'll be voting third party or for nobody in many cases from now on.

Vote third if you must but vote. Votes for third party get to be seen and counted. That way the pubbyrats will know exactly how many votes they COULD have had. Not voting only results in your opinion not being expressed. Seeing votes they could have had is what burns their azz.

27 posted on 10/23/2006 1:58:08 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso, Oct April 2006, TxMMP/MMP-LAREDO)
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