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Chris Lilik Is Being Heard (The AMAZING Freeper Who Might Be Key To Defeating Bob Casey)
American Spectator ^ | October 23, 2006 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 10/23/2006 3:56:37 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

While his famous conservative elders squabble on the front page of the New York Times, Chris Lilik just keeps his eye on the ball.

Attention should be paid.

Perhaps significantly in understanding the evolving state of generational politics with young conservatives, while Lilik loved Ronald Reagan he was only a year old when Reagan entered the White House. His conservative heroes, both at the national and state level, are very much alive and talking as a part of contemporary America.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bobcasey; chrislilik; pennsylvania; ricksantorum; santorum
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If Rick Santorum is re-elected, a BIG reason will be Chris Lilik. I know Chris (he's a FReeper). We go way back to his his Villanova days when I was the recipient of the most vicious reject letter ever from a newspaper editor and he sort of interceded to smooth things over via phone.

Anyway, PA is the Key Keystone State for Republicans retaining control of the Senate. If Santorum is re-elected (and this would probably mean GOP retention of the Senate) then the person to definitely THANK is FREEPER Chrik Lilik.

1 posted on 10/23/2006 3:56:38 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

Just don't think it is going to happen. Dislike of Santorum is very, very strong. He is a bit too Southern Conservative for PA (yes I have lived there for about 18 years). Too many hang-ups about sex that doesn't appeal to the Eastern part of the state ).

If Casey weren't such a Schmcuk, Santorum would be behing by a heck of a lot more. Rendell's machine is just too big and too strong.

The place where I lived is 50% Dem and 50% GOP and pretty representative of the middle-of-the-road mentality of the state. Only the friends who are politically aware(and naturally conservative) still plan to vote for Santorum. Those who are pubbies by registration but otherwise apolitical are either staying home or voting against him with their noses held.

I know it is just a snapshot, but this is what I am hearing about our friend Rick in PA.


If the GOP/Santorum wins in PA, you are looking at overall gains in the House in Senate in my book. As much as I like to be optimistic, I am not willing to cross over into blind wishful thinking. The are more promising fights to be fought.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 4:05:18 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
If Casey weren't such a Schmcuk, Santorum would be behing by a heck of a lot more. Rendell's machine is just too big and too strong.

One problem with that scenario is that there is some bad blood between Rendell and Casey. Not sure why but it exists.

If the GOP/Santorum wins in PA, you are looking at overall gains in the House in Senate in my book. As much as I like to be optimistic, I am not willing to cross over into blind wishful thinking. The are more promising fights to be fought.

So the GOP should just assume the fetal position and accept the fate that YOU expect? I remember reading that John F. Kennedy didn't even bother to show up to vote in the Senate in the late 50s for a Civil Rights Bill (which really did nothing) that Lyndon Johnson was promoting because he and everybody else "knew" it was going to be defeated anyway. Guess what? It passed. Maybe you should take your cue from Chris Lilik and actually DO something. Remember, this was the guy who was the key to defeating two "moderate" Republicans when they had "solid" seats.

3 posted on 10/23/2006 4:15:31 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: PJ-Comix
Maybe you should take your cue from Chris Lilik and actually DO something.

I did something. I voted. Otherwise I am 3000+ miles away, so it is tough.

I didn't say no one should vote. I am just relating my experience. Santorum is just more conservative than PA really is. Unfortunately Specter represents the states general disposition quite well, which is why he has been around so long. Not saying I agree with it. Remember the state voted for Gore and Kerry.

4 posted on 10/23/2006 4:19:40 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: PJ-Comix

Hats off to Chris. The radio ads are just what we need right now.

Casey Jr. is a flaming liberal whose hiding his true colors to squeeze throught the election, then be a tool of Hillary and Schumer to block good court nominees.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 4:30:43 AM PDT by Nextrush (Communism died in the Soviet Union, but Diversity lives on everywhere)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

So if Santorum wins, will you be THANKING Chris Lilik?


6 posted on 10/23/2006 4:31:29 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Nextrush

Chris is a FReeper. I know his FR screen name but don't want to reveal it for privacy reasons.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 4:32:54 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


8 posted on 10/23/2006 4:33:03 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: PJ-Comix

I don't know Chris personally, but I would certainly be willing to express my sincere appreciation for his efforts regardless of whether Santorum wins or loses.


9 posted on 10/23/2006 4:34:36 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Just don't think it is going to happen. Dislike of Santorum is very, very strong.

Dislike by the moonbat left, you bet. But the moonbat left is not PA.

Santorum wins by 2-3% and will be a big surprise to the DC punditry and to those on FR who think that the DC punditry's word, is the word of God.

10 posted on 10/23/2006 4:41:50 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
>He is a bit too Southern Conservative for PA

I'm very afraid that you may have hit it.
My primary residence is Florida and I now stay in SE Pa in the house that I grew up in, and bought, for the summers.

I lived near Valley Forge, Pa for 29 years before moving, and the area has slid downhill, and veered to the left quite a bit.

The democrat political attack ads equating local Republicans to Floridian style conservatism - as if that makes one the scum of the world - were shockingly offensive to me.

However, I have done my best to support him and his campaign.
At least a few members of my family will be voting for him!

>If the GOP/Santorum wins in PA, you are looking at overall gains in the House in Senate in my book

Maybe not. - The flip side to that argument, and one that we had best pay attention to, is that if Pa goes cobalt blue, then you are probably looking at overall and permanent gains for the dems on the National scene and we cannot concede that.

We must fight as hard as possible for Pa, for if the DNC gets a lock on those electoral votes with ease, then that money goes to hit us right at home.
11 posted on 10/23/2006 4:45:33 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Dane
Santorum wins by 2-3%

Would you be willing to put money on that prediction?

I know some life-long Republicans for whom Santorum is too conservative. Either you don't live in PA or you don't get out much.

12 posted on 10/23/2006 4:46:15 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I know some life-long Republicans for whom Santorum is too conservative. Either you don't live in PA or you don't get out much

Nice try at voter suppression but no cigar. Santorum wins despite some so-called life long "Republicans".

13 posted on 10/23/2006 4:54:21 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

You're reminding me of some FReepers on Election Day 2004 who proclaimed it was all over for us because the Exit polls showed Kerry winning in a landslide. You can actually go back in the archives to see YOURS TRULY telling them to basically STFU because those polls seemed obviously wrong. However, they still stuck to their "WOE IS US" script right up until the time Susan Estrich began crying into her "victory" champagne.


14 posted on 10/23/2006 4:59:55 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Dane

But you are not willing to put money on it?

By the way, who made you the one who determines who is or isn't a Republican?


15 posted on 10/23/2006 5:06:48 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (War is Peace__Freedom is Slavery__Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Nextrush

He's certainly campaigning on his dad's "Pro-life Dem" coattails. The problem is, there are a lot of dumb bunnies in PA who do not realize that Bob Casey ain't his dad.


16 posted on 10/23/2006 5:09:32 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I can say you know NOTHING about pa political doings.

Rick wins by a slim.

You don't even know that Eddie and Bobbie are at war. Bobbie is running ads that kick Eddie in the crotch.

Wait an see. The Toomey conservatives are not as dumb as the demoKaRatz think. And Eddies union thug buddies in Philly may get collective amnesia when it comes to the senate race.

You know none of this. STFU


17 posted on 10/23/2006 5:55:26 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: PJ-Comix
You're reminding me of some FReepers on Election Day 2004 who proclaimed it was all over for us because the Exit polls showed Kerry winning in a landslide.

We seem to have a permanent contingency with this mentality lurking in the shadows...just waiting for any opportunity to pop out and drive down morale. I'm getting real sick of them, myself.

18 posted on 10/23/2006 5:59:06 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: pgkdan

CLUCK! CLUCK! IT'S ALL OVER BEFORE IT'S OVER!!! CLUCK! CLUCK! THE SKY IS FALLING BEFORE IT IS FALLING!!! CLUCK! CLUCK!


19 posted on 10/23/2006 6:30:14 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
LOLOLOL!! "What you are hearing" is, in a word, wrong. You people need to learn that Philly does not speak for the rest of us. Those days are over.

Not only is Rick going to win, he's garnering Dem crossover votes. The only "accomplishment" Casey can stuff into his empty suit is the fact that he and Fast Eddie were the payjacking sugardaddies. Well after the fact he claimed he thought it was unconstitutional, yet he had no problem signing those paychecks. Plenty of Democrats are calling in to the midstate talk shows complaining about Casey and how worthlessly entitled he comes off. Not to mention how utterly clueless he proved himself in the debates. They're holding their noses to vote for Santorum!

The rest of us conservatives have no problem voting for Santorum. In fact, we're jazzed about it. I've never once heard anyone say he's too conservative! In fact I've heard far more comments that he's not conservative enough.

20 posted on 10/23/2006 7:56:48 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: PJ-Comix
I know his FR screen name but don't want to reveal it for privacy reasons.

I hope Chris will chose to make his identity known...after the election.

21 posted on 10/23/2006 7:58:21 AM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: qam1

This cries out for an Xer ping.


22 posted on 10/23/2006 8:10:32 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Dane
But the moonbat left is not PA.

Like James Carville once said, "Pennsylvania is Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other side, and Alabama in between." I like your prediction and I agree that the race will be very close, a lot closer than the dinosaur newsrooms would want you to believe.

23 posted on 10/23/2006 8:17:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: All

Here's his website:

http://www.ycopvoterfund.org/blog/

Why not slide on by and drop him some cash? I just sent him a sawbuck. It's not much, but in the last half hour, he's collected about $700. Pennsylvania radio is cheap. ;O)


And Chris, if you're reading this, the datestamp on your fundraising meter is wrong: "As of 11/23/06..." should obviously be October, not November).


24 posted on 10/23/2006 8:20:52 AM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Alabama in between?

Well, our literacy rates are higher . . . .




[Petronski ducks, runs away...]


25 posted on 10/23/2006 8:21:56 AM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: PJ-Comix

bttt


26 posted on 10/23/2006 8:29:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: PJ-Comix

I just went to the website Chris set up. I plan to go back in a few minutes and make an online donation. But, I wanted to get this website out to all the FREEPERS who want to see Rick Santorum reelected as badly as I do.

http://www.ycopvoterfund.org/blog/


27 posted on 10/23/2006 9:16:55 AM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: Petronski
Alabama in between?
Well, our literacy rates are higher . . . .
[Petronski ducks, runs away...]

If you run you'll only die tired! ;^)

28 posted on 10/23/2006 9:31:38 AM PDT by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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To: Mr. Silverback; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; ...
Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

29 posted on 10/23/2006 10:09:52 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Dane

bttt


30 posted on 10/23/2006 10:15:02 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

There are many "life-long Republicans" who find anyone to the right of Lenin on social issues to be too conservative. But if they were what PA is, Santorum would not have been elected in the first place.


31 posted on 10/23/2006 10:33:10 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: PJ-Comix

Ah, I remember that day well...A buddy and I were in Iowa with a huge Bush-Cheney sign, a "Flush the Johns" sign and a plunger, taking honks, cheers and (from the Dems) outraged abuse. We got into his truck at about 4pm to go back to Illinois, and he turned on Hannity. It was the first time either of us had heard about the exit polls. He was worried, I said "Yeah, right," and we discussed where Kerry had been campaigning the last few days. Conclusion: The polls were wrong, or Kerry would have had a very different schedule. I didn't worry about it any more for the rest of the day, and sure enough...


32 posted on 10/23/2006 10:38:04 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: pgkdan
I'm getting real sick of them, myself.

Screw 'em. We're going to do what it takes to win. Everybody send money or volunteer.

33 posted on 10/23/2006 10:39:48 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: 6ppc

Love your tagline!


34 posted on 10/23/2006 10:43:01 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: PJ-Comix
Another little memory from Iowa I'd like to share...

A car pulled up near me with a young man, mid 20's or so, waving to catch my attention. He reached into the back seat, and while rolling down his window with his right hand, he brought up a sign with his left and showed it. It was a "Vets for Bush" sign.

I called over to him, "I'm a vet, too! Today is Veteran's Day! Did you vote yet?"

"First thing this morning, brother! Happy Veteran's Day!"

We kept chanting "Veteran's Day! Veteran's Day!" until the light changed and he drove off. Meanwhile, Scott was shaking the plunger at oncoming traffic next to his "Flush the Johns" sign.

Man, it's good to be a conservative.

35 posted on 10/23/2006 10:48:49 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Coop

Ping


36 posted on 10/23/2006 11:33:29 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: PJ-Comix

Here is his website ...

http://www.ycopvoterfund.org/blog/


37 posted on 10/23/2006 11:59:18 AM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"Just don't think it is going to happen. Dislike of Santorum is very, very strong. He is a bit too Southern Conservative for PA (yes I have lived there for about 18 years). Too many hang-ups about sex that doesn't appeal to the Eastern part of the state )."

I know what you are saying, but the charicature of Santorum borders on bizarre ...

Santorum is an Italian-American, son of an Italian immigrant, Catholic, and married with many kids. Being a family oriented man doesnt give you "hang-ups about sex",
unless you think all of 70% of American against gay marriage is just 'uptight'...

Santorum is the most important race for conservatives.

the last real northeast conservative...


38 posted on 10/23/2006 12:02:32 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: bill1952

"I lived near Valley Forge, Pa for 29 years before moving, and the area has slid downhill, and veered to the left quite a bit.

The democrat political attack ads equating local Republicans to Floridian style conservatism - as if that makes one the scum of the world - were shockingly offensive to me."

It borders on a kind of bigotry, does it not?

I have that from the perspective of someone who grew up in New Jersey and is now in Texas. There is a northern arrogant attitude towards the south, reinforced by media and liberal elites, that equates social cosnervatism with some kind of low intelligence and backwardness.


39 posted on 10/23/2006 12:13:10 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"I know some life-long Republicans for whom Santorum is too conservative."

Probably named "Rockefellar" or maybe "Chaffee"


40 posted on 10/23/2006 12:14:57 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: PJ-Comix

I've been driving around PA with a Santorum sticker on my truck for a couple of months now... And I haven't gotten keyed again yet... So things can't really be all that bad...


41 posted on 10/23/2006 12:17:09 PM PDT by LikeLight (RYMB)
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To: PJ-Comix
One problem with that scenario is that there is some bad blood between Rendell and Casey. Not sure why but it exists.

It exists because Rendell and Casey had a brutal primary for governor in 2002 - Casey went negative early and had a big lead, only to get swamped in Philly.

So you're right - Rendell is no fan of Casey's - I also think he resented the national dems coming in and deciding who the PA Dem candidate would be. He had to pay off Hoeffel with a patronage job to get him out before the primary, and made some kind of deal with Barbara Hafer to do the same.

It's ironic that the one chance Santorum has is the lack of hard-core D voters for Casey due both to his nominal pro-life stance (which is a charade) as well as Rendell's lukewarm support due to an old primary battle, especially since it is another old primary battle (Specter-Toomey in '04) that has helped put Santorum in the hole he is in.

My guess is Casey still wins - the Rendell vote machine in Philly will be out in force for the Gov race on 11/7. Casey rides in on Rendell's coattails, albeit likely against Rendell's (private) wishes (he must publicly support Casey).

42 posted on 10/23/2006 12:51:31 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: WOSG
the last real northeast conservative...

Really, that is only partly true. The reason is also the reason PA politics is often difficult to comprehend for those who do not live here.

The fact is, Eastern and Western PA have little to nothing in common. The eastern side of the state (Philly & small NE cities such as Allentown, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, etc.) is true blue blood northeastern RINO country. However, the area west of Harrisburg is nothing like that - conside it part of the midwest, as Pittsburgh has much more in common with cities such as Cleveland and Cincinnati than Philly.

The East is fiscally conservative and socially liberal (read: country club Pubbies). Central and West is the opposite - fiscal liberals (read: union mentality) and social conservatives (especially pro-life and pro-gun).

All in all, it is an odd mix statewide. The key for 'Rats is to get enough Philly turnout to swamp the rest of the state, while the Pubbie key is to generate enough Central and West turnout to overcome the Philly advantage.

Just not sure if Rick has the numbers to do it (especially after the Toomey-Specter debacle), especially with Rendell on the ballot bringing all the government leeches out to vote in the East.

43 posted on 10/23/2006 1:00:08 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Petronski
Check out Chris's GrassrootsPA BLOG. I've got it on Bloglines so I get the latest updates.
44 posted on 10/23/2006 4:37:58 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Get bent. The majority of us are more than happy to support Santorum.


45 posted on 10/23/2006 5:55:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
No matter what you may think of Santorum, he is, IMHO, head and shoulders above Bob "do you know who my daddy was" Casey.
46 posted on 10/23/2006 5:57:58 PM PDT by airborne (If Democrats win in November, America will suffer.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Man, it's good to be a conservative.

It sure is! Keep that positive attitude! We need to move forward, even if just an inch at a time.

47 posted on 10/23/2006 6:04:12 PM PDT by airborne (If Democrats win in November, America will suffer.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Since you don't want to disclose Chris' screen name, I will trust you to convey my thanks to him when Santorum wins.

I'm sure that Rove has already rigged the Diebold machines (wink, wink). Rove, you magnificent b*****d!


48 posted on 10/23/2006 9:20:39 PM PDT by Purrcival (Sorry, RATS, this Christian fundie is voting REPUBLICAN, EVEN THOUGH MARK FOLEY IS (*gasp*) GAY!!!)
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To: PJ-Comix

I love Chris like a son and I'm proud of his accomplishments even though I disagree with him on this issue. I don't think Rick deserves to be re-elected, nor do I believe he will be re-elected.


49 posted on 10/24/2006 8:58:43 AM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Conservative Goddess

Ditto, CG


50 posted on 10/24/2006 5:36:59 PM PDT by smokeyb
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