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Need 1-Pager, to Counteract Lying Attack on Pro-Life Candidates on Stem Cells
vanity ^ | 10/23/2006 | request

Posted on 10/23/2006 9:55:29 AM PDT by unspun

Some of our most important candidates are being attacked in Big Lie campaigns, stating that if elected they want to "outlaw stem cell research."

I've seen it in attacks upon Senator Talent of Missouri and Rep. Mark Green, opposing Jim Doyle for Governor, here in Wisconsin. Doyle has bought heavily into TV ads with this slander.

FReepers should know that pro-lifers are strongly for adult stem cell research, since this is the only effective treatment for disease. We also konw that fetal stem cell production creates human cloning farms and has never done anything but poison human subjects.

Does anyone know of a good 1-page flyer or letter on the subject? We should circulate it and press our pro-lifer campaigns to do the same.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: activism; adultstemcells; esc; freepers; illinois; maryland; missouri; prolife; stemcell; wisconsin
Posted this in FreeRepublic.com activism forum, because this is what we should be doing -- now.
1 posted on 10/23/2006 9:55:32 AM PDT by unspun
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To: unspun

There are no human subjects yet, because embryonic stem-cells cause malignant carcinomas in 80% of the test animals. You come up with a product that causes cancer 80% of the time and the Tobacco Industry will thank you for taking the heat off of them.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 9:59:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: unspun
pro-lifers are strongly for adult stem cell research, since this is the only effective treatment for disease

HORSE FEATHERS!!

3 posted on 10/23/2006 9:59:49 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: unspun
Maybe we can come up with something ourselves. Lets get the facts straight though. It is my believe and impression, perhaps wrongly, that the administration banned Federal GOVERNMENT funding of EMBRYONIC stem cell research, correct? So non-Fed funding is OK (Like California, or private sources), and also, adult Stem cell research IS ok for Fed funding, correct?

The Left makes it sound like ALL stem cell funding, from ANY source is at risk..

4 posted on 10/23/2006 10:04:01 AM PDT by Paradox (American Conservatives: Keeping the world safe for Liberalism.)
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To: Paradox
Whatever the case, we all need something very simple, with the simple high-impact of the blunt truth, and with references.
5 posted on 10/23/2006 10:06:40 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Puppage
You appear to disagree with either of the following points-

1) Pro-lifers are strongly for adult stem cell research
or
2) adult stem cell research has provided the "only effective treatment for disease"

or both
Would you please clarify your position?
6 posted on 10/23/2006 10:08:25 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: unspun

There is no ban, and no proposal from either major Party to ban, the use of **animal** stem cells in research.

However, what the nutballs want is to force human-only stem cells to be used so as to maximize the number of human embryos destroyed.

But that's not where medical research starts. You don't start on humans and then move to animals. You begin your testing on animals, in this case on animal embryos/stem-cells.

Show an embryonic stem-cell cure for animals and only **then** come talk about using humans for lab research.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 10:09:04 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Puppage
HORSE FEATHERS!!

Please post any documentation of any successful fetal stem cell "cure."

Don't believe the liberal media.

8 posted on 10/23/2006 10:16:40 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: taxcontrol
adult stem cell research has provided the "only effective treatment for disease"

Says who?

9 posted on 10/23/2006 10:17:44 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: unspun
Please post any documentation of any successful fetal stem cell "cure."

There isn't any...which is why I said that statement is crap.

10 posted on 10/23/2006 10:18:55 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: unspun

Could you start with a story with pictures about someone who was helped with adult stem cells, or cord blood stem cells? Then talk about the scientific findings about the problems with embryonic stem cell treatment, and then returning to the theme of proper sources for stem cells - and ask the question, why, with the evidence that embryonic stem cell treatment is not only not effective but dangerous, the dems are so determined to destroy embryos?


11 posted on 10/23/2006 10:20:30 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: admin; Jim Robinson

Well, looks like this isn't going to get in front of many FReepers' eyeballs, where it's been put.

Guess they'll just go on reading news stories and writing to each other, as the liberals are active in campaigns, these last two weeks, and the conservatives cry out for activists. :-)


12 posted on 10/23/2006 10:20:34 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun

Stem Cell Research: Questions and Answers

http://www.mccl.org/pdf/StemCell63.pdf


13 posted on 10/23/2006 10:20:55 AM PDT by donna (We have a pattern.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Pro-life bump


14 posted on 10/23/2006 10:22:58 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: unspun

Rush just played a commerical against Talent and is discussing it now.


15 posted on 10/23/2006 10:28:11 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: Puppage
There isn't any...which is why I said that statement is crap.

Read it more carefully -- you apparently missed the word "adult," as in "adult stem cells."

16 posted on 10/23/2006 10:30:17 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Puppage
The use of adult stem cells in medical treatment is not new. For years, leukemia patients have obtained adult stem cells through bone-marrow transplants, and cancer patients often receive their own "cleansed" stem cells after chemotherapy. Adult stem cells have a proven track record of helping patients in the healing process.

Despite what you might hear in the media, embryonic stem cells have yet to demonstrate any therapeutic benefit to patients. Speculation as to the healing power of embryonic stem cells is just that: speculation. Scientists admit they have far to go before mastering the complicated and rapid process of embryonic stem cell growth and development. Yet many Americans incorrectly believe these cells already provide treatments and cures. There is also evidence embryonic stem cells are difficult to control, potentially putting patients who are treated with these cells at risk for serious side effects.


This is publicly available information for those that choose to do actual research into the subject.
17 posted on 10/23/2006 10:41:44 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: unspun

Adult stem cells and to a lesser extent umbilical stem cells have been proven to have beenficial effects, yet the advocates of research on embryonic stem cells, whihc have no demonstrated beenficial effect on anything, insist on lumping all stem cells together. Why is preserving the useless research on embryonic stem cells, rather than the proven adult and embryonic stem cells, so critically important to them? What is that really about?


18 posted on 10/23/2006 10:46:33 AM PDT by TBP
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To: unspun

This one is more user friendly:

http://www.pathlights.com/abortion/Stem-cell.htm


19 posted on 10/23/2006 10:55:30 AM PDT by donna (We have a pattern.)
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To: unspun
Here's some info from my archives(2005), haven't addressed this issue in awhile so I haven't updated them with current info but it should still be valid:

Embryonic stem cells have not cured or successfully treated a single patient. Contrast that with the more than 70 conditions that are treatable using non-embryonic stem cell therapies.

Note: Conditions treatable using non-embryonic stem cells are listed in this article.

Adult Stem Cells: It's Not Pie-in-the-Sky

Though embryonic stem cell research advocates euphemistically refer to the current state of research as an “early stage”, the unfortunate reality is the goal of embryonic stem cell therapies is, at this point, more accurately described as a pipe dream. No researcher is anywhere close to significant progress in developing practical embryonic stem cell therapies.

The only thing certain is that the cost of that research will be high. If embryonic stem cell research had real and imminent possibilities, private investors would be pouring capital into research hoping for real and imminent profits. Instead, venture capital firms are contributing to political efforts to get taxpayers to fund research. What the venture capitalists seem to be hoping for is that taxpayer funding of stem cell research will increase the value of their stakes in biotech companies. The venture capitalists can then cash out at a hefty profit, leaving taxpayers holding the bag of fruitless research.

Ron Reagan Wrong on Stem Cells

"Using embryonic stem cells, researchers at Stanford University who are working on a cure for Type I diabetes are producing new pancreatic islet cells that could be used in human transplants and could herald a cure for this devastating illness."

Actually, the latest research findings regarding embryonic stem cells are that they do not actually produce insulin in response to glucose changes in their environment and are NOT the pancreatic beta cells needed to treat diabetes. When placed in animals, the cells did not reverse diabetes; instead, they formed tumors.

"A Korean research team recently made history by using human embryonic stem cells to cure Parkinson's disease in rats."

That is what they claim, but the research is a long way from producing a safe and effective treatment for humans. On the one known occasion when earlier-stage (before 6 weeks) fetal tissue was used to try to treat a human Parkinson's patient, the tissue killed the patient by forming clumps of bone, skin and hair in the middle of his brain.

Moreover, animal trials with embryonic stem cells repeatedly kill many of the animals because of formation of brain tumors.

Meanwhile, the first clinical trial using a patient's own adult brain stem cells to treat Parkinson's has produced a lasting 80% reversal of symptoms, and wider human trials are being planned.

New Jersey Right to Life

You might check their website for other updates on this.

20 posted on 10/23/2006 11:09:42 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: unspun

Sorry I'm in a rush, but some links for the grassroots group fighting
the pro-cloning amendment in Missouri are posted below.

Additionally, they've been handing out 1-page flyer titled something like
"10 Facts You Should Know About Stems Cells and Cloning".
I can't find a .pdf for it on their site.
If you can't find it either, and are really interested, you could drop
a dime and ask them about it at: 636-536-9877.
(there might be an e-mail contact on their site, but I'm just too rushed
to search)
Good luck!


http://www.nocloning.org/

(pdfs listed at this site)
http://www.nocloning.org/facts.html

(one of the more pertinent pdfs)
http://www.nocloning.org/Reasons_to_Vote_NO.pdf


21 posted on 10/23/2006 11:14:09 AM PDT by VOA
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To: massgopguy

There are human subjects in China.

http://www.stemcellschina.com/


22 posted on 10/23/2006 11:19:12 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: unspun

This is an article by Dr. Robert J. Cihak titled "Stem Cell Bigots" it is worth the read. www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/9/26/91505.shtml


23 posted on 10/23/2006 11:19:31 AM PDT by jps098
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
There are human subjects in China.

Shhhh! You'll anger the indignant!

24 posted on 10/23/2006 11:59:35 AM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: Puppage

"HORSE FEATHERS!!"

Plenty of pro-lifers are FOR research/therapies/cures with adult stem cells
(or embryonic stem cells from a patients own cord blood).

Well, you could also look at it this way:
Those pro-lifers are against the tumors that have been the general result
of attempts to use embryonic stem cells, so far

e.g.,

Stem cells create tumours, says expert
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1721981/posts

And do read the article.
You'll see they are talking about embryonic stem cells.


25 posted on 10/23/2006 12:30:59 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Both treatments I see on the main page (Stem Cell Treatment Reduces Parkinson’s Symptoms and Beike - Nora Farkas) are using adult stem cells.


26 posted on 10/23/2006 12:33:23 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: All
Thanks for your contributions, everyone. I'm at work right now and intend to dig into this, later tonight.

Keep 'em coming!

27 posted on 10/23/2006 1:03:10 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun
I posted these a long time ago, still the only 1-page flier I am aware of on what you are looking for.

http://www.stemcellresearch.org/

Scroll to bottom right corner to:
USCCB Ads Go Nationwide!

The one on the left of the baby boy is the better, IMO. These ran as full page ads in USA Today and other nationals and gillions have been distributed as handouts. Anyone can bring the PDFs to their local printer and make as many as they can.
28 posted on 10/23/2006 3:04:18 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: unspun; All






29 posted on 10/23/2006 3:10:02 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: edsheppa

I never specified which type of cells being used. It wasn't clear at the start of the thread.


30 posted on 10/24/2006 4:28:31 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: VOA; Coleus
Thanks. Here's about the new Missouri TV ad.
31 posted on 10/24/2006 3:03:52 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: donna

Stem Cell Research: Questions and Answers

http://www.mccl.org/pdf/StemCell63.pdf
____________________________________________________________

Thank you Donna. This looks to be the best, most usable piece I've seen so far. Sent it to the Mark Green campaign in Wisconsin. Their response: "...the information you attached is very helpful. We will make sure our policy team and Mark Green review it."

"We are doing our best to get the message out that Doyle is spreading lies about Mark Green and you can help us by spreading the word to your family and friends."

"The Green Team ."


32 posted on 10/24/2006 3:21:47 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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