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Michael J. Fox is wrong: Jim Talent supports stem cell research
Red State ^ | 10-23-06

Posted on 10/23/2006 10:32:09 AM PDT by truthandlife

Adult stem cell research, that is. I know, but watching Michael J. Fox's near-slanderous attack on Senator Jim Talent, you'd have no idea that when Fox says that Talent opposes research into "stem cells," he means "embryonic stem cells." And it's because Fox, tragically afflicted Parkinson's Disease, needs a cure. But Fox doesn't let on that, yes, even adult stem cells have yielded treatment for Parkinson's.

Read the testimony of Dr. Dennis Turner, who suffered extreme shaking from 1991-1999 until adult stem cell therapy, conducted by Dr. Michel F. Levesque, helped give him four virtually pain-free years from treatment. Or the research into five Parkinson's patients who demonstrated a 61% increase in physical coordination and lessening of symptoms.

So yes, Mr. Fox, Senator Talent does support stem cells. He supports adult stem cells, he supports research that has yielded positive treatments for Parkinson's patients, and he did it all without requiring the federally-subsidized slaughter of embryoes. Insert the word "embryonic" somewhere into your vitriolic attack against the senator in a last-minute push for Claire McCaskill, and maybe then you can air that commercial. Alas, but perhaps that truthful commercial would be so much less effective.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: esc; fox; prolife; stemcells; talent

1 posted on 10/23/2006 10:32:12 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

MJF is nothing but a socialist Canadian parading as an American.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 10:33:50 AM PDT by demsux
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To: truthandlife

Has embryonic stem cell research yielded results anywhere in the world? On the other hand, adult stem cell research has yielded several treatments for various diseases.


3 posted on 10/23/2006 10:35:23 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: truthandlife

That's the most despicable lie (of many) from contemporary Democrats: The deliberate conflating of embroyonic stem cells with adult stem cells in campaign ads that say "Republican X opposes stem cell research."

That is just pure evil.


4 posted on 10/23/2006 10:36:32 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: truthandlife

I hate to say that I am liking MJF less and less lately. I'm sorry he has a disease. I'm sorry he feels that embryonic stem cell is the answer. I almost wish that we could let them do all their research (tax paid) so we can say nener nener neennnerrr.

Nah.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 10:40:32 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

>>>I hate to say that I am liking MJF less and less lately.>>>

Of course his career is over, so what does he care?


6 posted on 10/23/2006 10:41:17 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: truthandlife
No winder michael j. fox has moived to America.

Has anybody heard of a Canadian pharmaceutical company that has produced a breakthrough miracle cure.

7 posted on 10/23/2006 10:41:21 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: saganite
Has embryonic stem cell research yielded results anywhere in the world?

Certainly, it yields tumors.

8 posted on 10/23/2006 10:42:00 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Dane

Doesn't Parkinson's effect your speech?


9 posted on 10/23/2006 10:43:07 AM PDT by musikman
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To: Dane

Doesn't Parkinson's effect your speech?


10 posted on 10/23/2006 10:43:15 AM PDT by musikman
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To: truthandlife

Michael J Fox was born a Canadian citizen. The type of health care that democrats are pushing is similar to the Canadian model. Michael should go back home to Canada for the cure, surely the Canadian system has one already.


11 posted on 10/23/2006 10:45:06 AM PDT by RunningJoke
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To: jwalsh07; saganite

Thus far, stme cells that have been implanted to produce a certain, desired result have yielded immediate tumor growth in the implanted subject. I have heard some researchers suggest we are perhaps ten years away from positive results.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 10:45:24 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: musikman
Doesn't Parkinson's effect your speech?

I don't think so, but it can affect your mental capabilites,IMO(i.e janet reno, who also has Parkinson's, attacked innocent people with tanks and gas in Waco, TX.)

13 posted on 10/23/2006 10:46:45 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: irish guard

"Thus far, stme cells that have been implanted to produce a certain, desired result have yielded immediate tumor growth in the implanted subject"

Would that be adult stem cells or embryonic stem cells?


14 posted on 10/23/2006 10:47:46 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: musikman; All

My husband has Parkinson's and it has affected his speech, his gait, his handwriting, and many other things..

We do not support the use of embryos for stem cell research.


15 posted on 10/23/2006 10:47:56 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: truthandlife

I still like him as an actor, but I despise his politics.


16 posted on 10/23/2006 10:48:23 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: musikman
Doesn't Parkinson's effect your speech?

No, but I've heard it will make you double post.

17 posted on 10/23/2006 10:48:39 AM PDT by Dubya-M-Dees (Mary Mapes was the first in the MSM that had to participate in an election by the people... she lost)
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To: musikman; Dane
Doesn't Parkinson's effect your speech?

Yes. One of my great-aunts had it and lost all speech ability, long before her mental acuity left her. MJF should thank God on his KNEES that whatever treatment he's getting has postponed the horror I saw her endure.

19 posted on 10/23/2006 10:51:50 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Dane

He's probably on the waiting list in Canada waiting for treatment.


20 posted on 10/23/2006 10:52:16 AM PDT by kempster
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To: jacquej
We do not support the use of embryos for stem cell research.

God bless you both.

21 posted on 10/23/2006 10:52:34 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: truthandlife

Anyone who would demand another human being die for their good is by that very fact not worth dying for.


22 posted on 10/23/2006 10:53:05 AM PDT by Lexinom (www.VoteYesForLife.com -- the only chance?)
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To: sandbar

Maybe if they took all the money McCaskill is using to run for election, they could spend it to fund embryonic stem cell research, and find a cure.

McCaskill's disgusting use of important embryonic stem cell research money for her own partisan political gain should disqualify her from office. How dare she condemn so many people to death simply so she can win a seat in the Senate?


23 posted on 10/23/2006 10:55:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: denydenydeny
That is just pure evil

Yes.

24 posted on 10/23/2006 10:55:34 AM PDT by syriacus (LORD, bless the good people of Iraq and our troops AND confound those who plot evil against them..)
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To: musikman

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25 posted on 10/23/2006 10:56:11 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: irish guard
I have heard some researchers suggest we are perhaps ten years away from positive results

How? Therapeutic cloning? Cloning is currently still a dirty word. I've no doubt that will change in the future if the utilitarians get there way. But how does one overcome the immunological response if not by cloning?

26 posted on 10/23/2006 10:58:56 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: truthandlife

What MJF and the late Christopher Reeve are (or were)saying is that their lives are more important than the lives that embryonic research would take. I truly do feel badly for anyone with Parkinson's or paralysis, but every life is precious, and theirs isn't any more important than those little babies. What if they said that taking the life of a 6 month baby could help find a cure for these diseases, would that be OK? I'm sure that those afflicted would say, sure, that's easy for you to say, but even if my children were afflicted, I would say the same thing.


27 posted on 10/23/2006 11:03:25 AM PDT by murron
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To: truthandlife
"That's the most despicable lie (of many) from contemporary Democrats: The deliberate conflating of embryonic stem cells with adult stem cells in campaign ads that say "Republican X opposes stem cell research."

Not only that, but Bush vetoed and Talent agreed, that there should be no federal money used for research (more spinning on the rats side)
28 posted on 10/23/2006 11:08:28 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: Jeffrey_D.

It is lamentable we have such an ignorant electorate.


29 posted on 10/23/2006 11:11:27 AM PDT by Lexinom (www.VoteYesForLife.com -- the only chance?)
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To: Lexinom

dittoes.....all we can do is hope they don't vote


30 posted on 10/23/2006 11:16:00 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: saganite

embryonic stem cells have produced results - the growth of uncontrollable tumors. Apparently there is not a switch "off" for embroyonic stem cells as there is such a switch in adult stem cells. MJF would like to have tumors added to his plight? He is either stupid or a liar with this ad.


31 posted on 10/23/2006 11:34:38 AM PDT by Texas Chilli
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To: truthandlife
The ad is false. It should not be airing. However, Talent is a Republican, and has learned that he dare not even think of asking stations to take the ad off the air for fear of being called names.

Talent is such a good little Republican unable to even consider a strategy for defending himself. Just lets the Left keep spinning their lies and distortions, believing in the end, people will vote for him because he's a nice guy.

32 posted on 10/23/2006 11:39:29 AM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: truthandlife
I guess Michael J. Fox advocates giving people cancer by injecting their brains with embryonic stemcells.

That's what happens.

33 posted on 10/23/2006 12:02:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: murron

A while back MJ Fox was accused of not taking his medication before (I think) congressional testimony so that his tremors would be worse to help get more funding. I saw him recently on a scrubs epidsode and inside the actor's studio where he had tremors but not as bad as that commercial. I think Talent should find out if MJFox took his meds before filiming that commercial. If not, it would show MJFox and McDemocrat as manipulators.


34 posted on 10/23/2006 12:02:32 PM PDT by Ebony and Ivory (utopia will never exist but freedom can)
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To: murron

While Michael is still alive and conscious maybe he'd like to volunteer for all sorts of "experiments" to be performed on his body ~ just to help others you know.


35 posted on 10/23/2006 12:05:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Made in USA

Agreed, can we stick to the real important issues please instead of wasteing time arguing about whether embryos should be used for research or just tossed out in the garbage.


36 posted on 10/23/2006 12:13:35 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

I think if someone is in favor of embryonic stem cell research then they should have the gonads to name the baby that shouldn't be born so that they can get back to their equestrian hobby.


37 posted on 10/23/2006 1:21:37 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: truthandlife

As always, it's not the candidate or the party defending themselves, but us. That the Stupid Party can't stand up for their positions is well, stupid. And immensely infuriating.


38 posted on 10/23/2006 3:05:23 PM PDT by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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To: demsux

That pint-sized Canuck needs to keep his nose out of our business.


39 posted on 10/23/2006 3:06:55 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: truthandlife

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1724630/posts


40 posted on 10/23/2006 5:53:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: saganite
I believe reading earlier today that those are Embryonic stem cells that result in tumor growth.

"Researchers in China met with a disastrous result. Fetal tissue injected into a patient’s brain produced temporary improvement, but within two years the patient developed a brain tumor and died. An autopsy revealed that the fetal cells had taken root, but had then metamorphed into other types of human tissue – hair, skin and bone. These grew into the tumor, which killed the patient."

http://www.lifeissues.org/cloningstemcell/bradsarticle.html

41 posted on 10/23/2006 6:02:28 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (im on ur thread, replyng to ur topix)
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To: truthandlife

Yeah, but, now they're saying that embryonic stem cells may cause tumors in the brain. (I need to go get the article, from yesterday, health news 10-22-06?)


42 posted on 10/23/2006 8:35:05 PM PDT by onyx eyes ( .....scientists found a seemingly-live, bacteria type, in rocks- (Discovery Science channel))
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To: truthandlife

But no one understands. If a celebrity is sick, even babies should have to die to save them.


43 posted on 10/23/2006 10:16:28 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: massgopguy
I think if someone is in favor of embryonic stem cell research then they should have the gonads to name the baby that shouldn't be born...

What baby? If the embryo isn't used, it ends up getting disposed of as medical waste.

... so that they can get back to their equestrian hobby

Sounds creepy that you are rooting for people to remain paralyzed

44 posted on 10/24/2006 4:34:52 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: demsux

Argue all you want, the stem cell amendment has strong support and should pass overwhelmingly. Talent's opposition is not going to help him, and may be one reason why the race is so close.


45 posted on 10/24/2006 4:38:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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