Skip to comments.Wis congressional candidate (US House Dem) apologizes for 'Injun time' remark
Posted on 10/23/2006 3:22:55 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
GREEN BAY, Wis. - Democratic U.S. House candidate Steve Kagen apologized Monday for commenting that he was late for a meeting on an Indian reservation because "we're on Injun time."
"I did not mean any harm by my words and I humbly apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intent," he said in a statement hours after the National Republican Congressional Committee released a tape recording of the comment.
Kagen attended a meeting Friday on the nearby Oneida Reservation and at his next stop in Green Bay he made the following remarks:
"Appreciate getting here almost on time. Our excuse in Oneida was, well, we're on Injun time. They don't tell time by the clock. Our excuse here is that I am a doctor and that we're never on time."
Kagen, a 56-year-old Appleton doctor, is involved in what political observers call a very close race against Republican John Gard, a 43-year-old veteran state lawmaker, for the two-year seat in District 8 in northeast Wisconsin. The two are seeking to replace GOP U.S. Rep. Mark Green, who is running for governor.
District 8 has one of only 29 open House seats in the country, making it a prime target for Democrats who need to pick up 15 seats on Nov. 7 to gain control of the 435-member House.
Kagen's spokeswoman Stephanie Lundberg said he heard the term "Injun time" used by Native Americans.
"I don't know if he was trying to be funny. It was in the context of a self-deprecating comment," she said.
Bobbi Webster, a spokeswoman for the Oneida Nation, said Monday that Kagen's comment was not being taken as disrespectful by tribal members. No apology was sought, she said.
"Tribal members say that themselves. It is not uncommon to hear somebody come in late and say, 'Oh-Oh. I am running on Indian time.' The time you get there is the time to do your thing," Webster said.
The term "Injun" also is not necessarily disrespectful, she said.
"If I thought an individual was trying to be disrespectful, then I might think about it in that term," Webster said. "But if I thought a person was trying to be funny, then I might enlighten him and say, 'You know, I know what you are trying to do but you may want to just say it a little differently.'"
Kagen and Gard were on the reservation Monday for a debate, and no tribal members brought up the "Injun" comment, Webster said.
"We were laughing about all the calls we got today in regard to the Indian time comment and we said. 'My God, aren't they interested in what the issues are all about? The health care. The education. The jobs,'" she said.
An Indian in South Dakota was less forgiving of Kagen.
Bruce Whalen, a Republican seeking election to the U.S. House in South Dakota's only district, called Kagen's remark a "racist comment" that insults Native Americans everywhere, according to a statement released by the National Republican Congressional Committee.
Whalen, a member of South Dakota's Oglala Sioux Tribe on the Pine Ridge Reservation, demanded that Kagen apologize.
Oh, so when Native Americans say it that's fine and dandy, but let a honkey say it and suddenly everybody's feelings are hurt.
What a gaff. Everybody knows the correct term is "Native American Time".
Tell that to the Macaca.
Exactly. Gee, the macaca thing was the big story for at least a week. Insulting Indians about being on Indian time is at least as offensive as someone using a word that nobody in the MSM had heard of until Allen said it. Then they decided it was a racial slur and played it up as such.
We'll see how much coverage this gets. Democrats love American Indians. That's why Indian reservations are such oases of prosperity.
Right. The Big Smoke is on the 12 and the little smoke is on the 9.
Was it Injun Daylight Time or Injun Standard Time?
Mark Belling on this right now. www.newstalk1130.com
That's why I posted it, he was just talking about it, I searched and didn't see it posted. If this was a republican, it'd be the breaking news story on all the msm channels.
Many Moons is my girl friend. Do you know her?
Bobbi Webster, a spokeswoman for the Oneida Nation, said Monday that Kagen's comment was not being taken as
disrespectful coming from a Republican by tribal members. No apology was sought, she said.
Here's a link to an earlier discussion when Charlie Sykes reported on it:
Thanks, I searched 'injun', and didn't see it posted.
Is Injun time anything like stripper time? I knew a dancer a few years back, she explained to me there was real time and stripper time. Stripper time runs 30-90 mins behind real time.... LOL
I would suspect it is similar to "15 minutes," which is the time many a native Mexican tells you it will take to do something, even if it takes 3 days.
Blacks also often use the "N" word with each other. It's verboten to others.
and Indians (many still prefer "Indian" to the so-called PC "Native American") - and there's a big difference between "Indian" and "Injun."
However, no sweat , no issue - it was a democrat...
and contrary to what his people said, he WAS asked to apologize. Of course, that's all a democrat ever has to do - a republican would already be outta town on a rail - provided, not by the Indians, but the "outraged" democrats
DUmocrats....always have an over-abundance of excuses.
Will this be played to the extent of Nguyen in California and the letter to Hispanic voters? Not holding my breath...
Never mind . . .
I was in the airport in Mexico City a few years back and asked an employee when a ticket counter would be open. "30 minutes," he said and then added "Mexican time," and grinned.
Maybe the search engine is on Injun Time too.
"I did not mean any harm by my words and I humbly apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intent," he said in a statement hours after the National Republican Congressional Committee released a tape recording of the comment. "
On the old Lou Grant TV show, the character, Joe Rossi used the term, Indian Time to explain to the police who wanted to move the old indian chief away from the sidewalk where he was blocking traffic; and Ed Asner as Lou Grant took up the old indian's cause.
They don't come any farther to the left than Ed Asner.
You pale-faces are all alike.
So, if it concerns Native Americans, no problem ?
Blacks often use the "N" word with one another - but what happens when a "honkey" uses it???
Always seems to be double standards when it's a democrat's versus republicans or Native Americans versus ANY other ethnic group.
American Indians are still considered all but invisible in this country - the U.S. Congress even once ruled them as aliens...How many more years, I wonder, before the country gets over it's stupid mass-guilt, which results in blaming everything on the Native Americans, accepts the truth for both sides and gets on with it?
In early colonial times, for a funny example, the Indians found it comical that the white man needed a clock to tell him when he was hungry...instead of just eating when he was hungry, as the Indian did.
Gard is going to eat this guy's lunch. This district is solidly Republican.
I sure hope not...
That's great to hear! I used to live in Green Bay. I'm in Washington County now, one of the most conservative counties in Wisconsin. Now, if the media would cover this like it was a republican...... 'holding my breath.'
It's not like he called them WARRIORS or anything. Now there's something to be upset about!
Faux outrage is a very selective thing.
Democratic U.S. House candidate Steve Kagen apologized with some beads and cheap whiskey.
Even though he's getting a taste of the foul medicine his party regularly foists on Republicans, I have to say this is one of the rare occasions on which I sympathize with a Rat.
As for our guy in South Dakota who condemned him: Shut up with the PC crap. Just run your own race.
It's ok....he just called them Injuns....he could have called them warriors. Now THAT would have been insensitive.
More insensitive slurs. Did you mean to say "wampum and fire-water"?
Dr. Demento Dean must resign immediately over this scandalous behavior by a member of his party.
Also, when did Pelosi know this candidate was a bigot? And when did she know it? She must resign now.
Kohl and Feingold are responsible for the slur because they are from the same state as the slurrer. They must also resign.
Congress must begin investigation about who instructed the candidate to make the slur.
The NY Slimes, Washington Compost, and the local paper shall run this story on their front page for the next 2 weeks.
This 'injun' comment will haunt the Donkeycratic party for the next 2 election cycles. They will never recover from the charges of hypocrisy, and will be the laughing stock of the western world. And...and...and....
You're so cute.... :)
I live in Hawaii and over here they have "Hawaiian Time" which is the same thing.
"Blacks also often use the "N" word with each other. It's verboten to others."
It's not verboten if you're a doddering Caucasian Dimocrat Senator and you use the term on the Senate floor as in "....white N-word..." Well, that's just fine, no problemo, that is, if you're a Dimocrat.
Or if you're a "Bird" KKK, you can say it 3 times in one interview on national TV and not a eyebrow is raised...
Which makes sense as they were here long before there was an America. Who thought up "Native American" anyway?
Indian--American Indian, if one is confused with Asian Indians--is preferred by many who aren't pimping a race card.
Democratic U.S. House candidate Steve Kagen apologized Monday for commenting that he was late for a meeting on an Indian reservation because "we're on Injun time." ... Bobbi Webster, a spokeswoman for the Oneida Nation, said Monday that Kagen's comment was not being taken as disrespectful by tribal members. No apology was sought, she said.
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