Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Wis congressional candidate (US House Dem) apologizes for 'Injun time' remark
AP ^ | Mon, Oct. 23, 2006

Posted on 10/23/2006 3:22:55 PM PDT by Indy Pendance

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Democratic U.S. House candidate Steve Kagen apologized Monday for commenting that he was late for a meeting on an Indian reservation because "we're on Injun time."

"I did not mean any harm by my words and I humbly apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intent," he said in a statement hours after the National Republican Congressional Committee released a tape recording of the comment.

Kagen attended a meeting Friday on the nearby Oneida Reservation and at his next stop in Green Bay he made the following remarks:

"Appreciate getting here almost on time. Our excuse in Oneida was, well, we're on Injun time. They don't tell time by the clock. Our excuse here is that I am a doctor and that we're never on time."

Kagen, a 56-year-old Appleton doctor, is involved in what political observers call a very close race against Republican John Gard, a 43-year-old veteran state lawmaker, for the two-year seat in District 8 in northeast Wisconsin. The two are seeking to replace GOP U.S. Rep. Mark Green, who is running for governor.

District 8 has one of only 29 open House seats in the country, making it a prime target for Democrats who need to pick up 15 seats on Nov. 7 to gain control of the 435-member House.

Kagen's spokeswoman Stephanie Lundberg said he heard the term "Injun time" used by Native Americans.

"I don't know if he was trying to be funny. It was in the context of a self-deprecating comment," she said.

Bobbi Webster, a spokeswoman for the Oneida Nation, said Monday that Kagen's comment was not being taken as disrespectful by tribal members. No apology was sought, she said.

"Tribal members say that themselves. It is not uncommon to hear somebody come in late and say, 'Oh-Oh. I am running on Indian time.' The time you get there is the time to do your thing," Webster said.

The term "Injun" also is not necessarily disrespectful, she said.

"If I thought an individual was trying to be disrespectful, then I might think about it in that term," Webster said. "But if I thought a person was trying to be funny, then I might enlighten him and say, 'You know, I know what you are trying to do but you may want to just say it a little differently.'"

Kagen and Gard were on the reservation Monday for a debate, and no tribal members brought up the "Injun" comment, Webster said.

"We were laughing about all the calls we got today in regard to the Indian time comment and we said. 'My God, aren't they interested in what the issues are all about? The health care. The education. The jobs,'" she said.

An Indian in South Dakota was less forgiving of Kagen.

Bruce Whalen, a Republican seeking election to the U.S. House in South Dakota's only district, called Kagen's remark a "racist comment" that insults Native Americans everywhere, according to a statement released by the National Republican Congressional Committee.

Whalen, a member of South Dakota's Oglala Sioux Tribe on the Pine Ridge Reservation, demanded that Kagen apologize.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bobbiwebster; brucewhalen; democratmedia; injun; injuntime; johngard; markgreen; oglalasioux; oneidanation; partisanmedia; southdakota; stephanielundberg; stevekagen; wisconsin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last
Do you think this will be played up like the MSM does with Allen?
1 posted on 10/23/2006 3:22:56 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

Oh, so when Native Americans say it that's fine and dandy, but let a honkey say it and suddenly everybody's feelings are hurt.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 3:26:29 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

What a gaff. Everybody knows the correct term is "Native American Time".


3 posted on 10/23/2006 3:26:50 PM PDT by Argus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

MACACA!


4 posted on 10/23/2006 3:27:37 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance
The term "Injun" also is not necessarily disrespectful, she said.

Tell that to the Macaca.

-PJ

5 posted on 10/23/2006 3:27:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance
As an American Injun, let me say that there is such a thing as Injun time. Yes there is! I'll bet you a buck.
6 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:00 PM PDT by fish hawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

Exactly. Gee, the macaca thing was the big story for at least a week. Insulting Indians about being on Indian time is at least as offensive as someone using a word that nobody in the MSM had heard of until Allen said it. Then they decided it was a racial slur and played it up as such.

We'll see how much coverage this gets. Democrats love American Indians. That's why Indian reservations are such oases of prosperity.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:14 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Argus
What a gaff. Everybody knows the correct term is "Native American Time".

Right. The Big Smoke is on the 12 and the little smoke is on the 9.

-PJ

8 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

Was it Injun Daylight Time or Injun Standard Time?


9 posted on 10/23/2006 3:28:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Non-smoker who hates smoking nazis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fish hawk
As an American Injun, let me say that there is such a thing as Injun time.

Many moons?

10 posted on 10/23/2006 3:29:48 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

Mark Belling on this right now. www.newstalk1130.com


11 posted on 10/23/2006 3:29:52 PM PDT by NewsJunqui
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NewsJunqui

That's why I posted it, he was just talking about it, I searched and didn't see it posted. If this was a republican, it'd be the breaking news story on all the msm channels.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 3:31:32 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance
"We're on Injun time." Hahaha, hilarious!

Still, won't get the same Macaca attention, even though everybody knows what Injun refers to, as opposed to nobody knowing what Macaca even meant.
13 posted on 10/23/2006 3:33:19 PM PDT by billybudd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Many Moons is my girl friend. Do you know her?


14 posted on 10/23/2006 3:33:52 PM PDT by fish hawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance
Ooops. Gotta fix that typo in the original article ...

Bobbi Webster, a spokeswoman for the Oneida Nation, said Monday that Kagen's comment was not being taken as disrespectful coming from a Republican by tribal members. No apology was sought, she said.

15 posted on 10/23/2006 3:35:19 PM PDT by PackerBronco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

Here's a link to an earlier discussion when Charlie Sykes reported on it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1724395/posts


16 posted on 10/23/2006 3:39:05 PM PDT by NewsJunqui
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: NewsJunqui

Thanks, I searched 'injun', and didn't see it posted.


17 posted on 10/23/2006 3:40:03 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance

Is Injun time anything like stripper time? I knew a dancer a few years back, she explained to me there was real time and stripper time. Stripper time runs 30-90 mins behind real time.... LOL


18 posted on 10/23/2006 3:41:14 PM PDT by Unknown Pundit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fish hawk

I would suspect it is similar to "15 minutes," which is the time many a native Mexican tells you it will take to do something, even if it takes 3 days.


19 posted on 10/23/2006 3:42:34 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Indy Pendance
"Tribal members say that themselves. It is not uncommon to hear somebody come in late and say, 'Oh-Oh. I am running on Indian time.

Blacks also often use the "N" word with each other. It's verboten to others.

and Indians (many still prefer "Indian" to the so-called PC "Native American") - and there's a big difference between "Indian" and "Injun."

However, no sweat , no issue - it was a democrat...

and contrary to what his people said, he WAS asked to apologize. Of course, that's all a democrat ever has to do - a republican would already be outta town on a rail - provided, not by the Indians, but the "outraged" democrats

20 posted on 10/23/2006 3:47:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-48 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson