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War crimes secret of man next door
Timesonline ^ | 23 October 06 | Daniel McGrory

Posted on 10/24/2006 12:08:57 AM PDT by tgambill

A man convicted of atrocities in the Balkans has been living peacefully in Carshalton for years

::nobreak::TO HIS neighbours, Milan Spanovic was an unassuming father of three. Though he had lived among them for 15 years, the best description they could come up with was that he was “remarkably quiet”.

Equally, the officers who arrested him for shoplifting found nothing untoward about him. After he protested his innocence, they set about completing the paperwork and prepared to release him with no more than a formal caution.

So when a desk officer typed his name into a database as a matter of routine, the result made jaws drop. Spanovic, 43, from Carshalton, South London, was a convicted war criminal — sentenced to 20 years in jail in his absence — with an international warrant for his arrest.

He is said to have been part of a Serbian paramilitary gang that terrorised the village of Maja near Glina in the former Yugoslavia during the civil war.

Census figures show that, of the 274 people who lived there, only half a dozen were Serbs. The 40 gunmen drove into the village one morning in August 1991. As parents hurried to hide their children, the gang moved from house to house, stealing anything that took their fancy and destroying the rest. Anyone who protested was beaten. One man told the Croatian court that he was tortured and had the barrel of a gun shoved into his mouth.

The men told their victims that they would expel every Croat and bring Maja into their self-proclaimed breakaway Serb Republic of Krajina. They burnt down the village’s shop, social club and Roman Catholic church, and several homes. After the war, 19 men, including a relative of Spanovic, were indicted by the Croat Government for the raid. A Croatian court tried and convicted Spanovic in his absence. He has insisted that he was not responsible for any atrocities and was never in a terror squad.

He will appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court today as Croatia seeks his extradition to Zagreb. He is thought to be the first Balkan war criminal to have been found in Britain.

Although the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia at The Hague gets the headlines for its war crimes hearings, hundreds of other survivors from the Balkan wars are dealt with in their own countries.

If Spanovic is extradited he will have the right, under Croat law, to ask for a new trial.

Five months on from his arrest in June, neighbours in Carshalton still cannot believe that such a notorious figure was living among them.

The family lived quietly and, although they were polite to neighbours, they were reluctant to join in any social activities. Neighbours thought that Spanovic had arrived as an asylum-seeker in 1991 and were puzzled that he had no obvious source of income.

Sue Weatherburn, 39, a civil servant, said: “Ignorance is sometimes bliss. I’m not sure I would have wanted to know there was a war criminal here.”

One official in Zagreb said: “We are very grateful for his capture, though it is true we did not have Carshalton on our radar as a possible hideout. We had an international arrest warrant out for him, but we never expected him to be living a quiet life in London.”

There are thought to be fewer than 5,000 Croatians in Britain and investigators have never identified this country as a haven for Balkan fugitives.

ON THE RUN

Two alleged war criminals who have always been at the top of the wanted list, Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, are still on the run after more than a decade

This month, Carla Del Ponte, the chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague, said that fugitives might escape justice if her court did not receive support

Ms Del Ponte says that Western governments have lost interest in the Balkans. She is under pressure to complete all trials by 2008 but says that six main suspects are still at large. Many hundreds more have spent the past decade in hiding, convinced the world will stop hunting them

Karadzic, the former Bosnian Serb leader, has evaded capture at least six times and is sheltered by supporters in Bosnia and Montenegro

Mladic is thought to be protected in Serbia by old comrades from the former Yugoslav Army. He is accused of murdering about 7,500 Muslims in the supposed UN safe haven of Srebrenica in 1995

The other four, also Serbs, are Zdravko Tolimir, Stojan Zupljanin, Goran Hadzic and Vlastimir Dordevic


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; balkans; croatia; serbia; warcriminal
There were paramilitaries that got out of line. It made the whole campaign confusing allowing the UN to exaggerate and made the Fabrications believeable.
1 posted on 10/24/2006 12:08:59 AM PDT by tgambill
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Any article concerning Serbs or Serbia, with the name Carla Del Ponte in it, is not credible.


2 posted on 10/24/2006 4:00:59 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Fallujah shoulda been leveled by B-52's.Conservative and Republican are not synonymous.)
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To: gitmogrunt; dirtboy; Bokababe; joan; montyspython; DTA; getoffmylawn; ma bell; Beckwith; ...

"Any article concerning Serbs or Serbia, with the name Carla Del Ponte in it, is not credible."

That is possible......as she is playing the game with the main stream, however, I was a panel member at the SUC in November 2005.

http://www.oes.serbian-church.net/sucinfo/conventions/fifteenth/galleries/1/web/index4.html 76-100

Forgive me if I seem to be "blowing my horn", but I'm not, as it seems, folks always look for credibility. During this session Dr. Sanda Raskovic-Ivic made an apology in the Kosovo group session about the paramilitary activities during that period, however; she added that Serbs are cleaning their own house; and they are doing just that promise. They still have been good for that promise. The Serb paramilitaries did crimes as well as the Muslims we supported.......However, we (Clinton Administration), UN, NATO, KLA, went along with the ruse and exaggerated/Fabricated much of the reports that justified the Balkan intrustion. The JCS was given a lot of crap about our purpose was to prevent a genocide plus, we need to block the Islamist from making the Balkans an Islamic State......:)) you and both know that this is not possible with the mentality that the Muslims in the Balkans has toward fundamental Islam.

Certainly there is corruption in all nations, ..least we talk about our own house, which is in a terrible mess and has been for a very, very long time. I served in the Marines for 12 years, and honestly, knowing what I know now, about our enemies; during any part of our past generations....and how they came about; well, if told to go fight, I still would. It would be my duty, as no matter what kind of relationship we have had, "covertly", they are still enemies of my country and Americans.

We are deep deep in the Balkan coverup and lying our butts off about the reasons we are supporting the Muslims, from the early 90's to now; and the future operations with the intermediate Objective being an Independent Kosovo. Next comes, as I said before; destablizing Macedonia, Southern Presevo, North Mitrovica, Sandjak, Volvodina, on to the Russian states...we have no business in the Balkans what so ever........the only possible reason would be to aid and assist the Macedonian and Serbian Military/Police to deal with the Islamic "sheetheads".....and charity groups as they front for Al Qiada. Long story short.

Semper Fi,

Tom


3 posted on 10/24/2006 5:57:39 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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While in Bratunac having Karadjorvica for dinner, I had dinner right alongside Dr Radovan. He was also having tea with the other patrons. Then he moved onto the next kafana, then to the next. He is everywhere and "everyone" has seen him over there.

while there in 2003, i was tracked by the local Serb chieftans during my overnight there. according to the cell ph calls, two goons were to maintain visual of my movements as i guess they figured i was there to locate him or such.

Factly, word spread quickly and for some reason..who knows........

4 posted on 10/24/2006 6:31:37 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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"He is accused of murdering about 7,500 Muslims in the supposed UN safe haven of Srebrenica in 1995"

***** oh, by the way, if he "lives" to trial, if you know what I mean, they will play "heck"...trying to prove this BS of 7,500 Muslims being Murdered. It seems to me when you are fighting a Jihad, and 3,000 are Jihadist from all over..to include Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia et al....you kill them when they are cutting off heads and shooting back. There is virtually no evidence of 7000-8000 murdered innocent Muslims, nor rape camps, nor a genocide. As a matter of fact the Clinton Administration aided in transporting and orchestrating the use of the Muh from Afghanistan. The CIA had asked the ISI to divert part of the dregs of the HUM and the HUJI to Bosnia to assist the Muslims there in their fight against the Serbs. The arms and ammo was provided by the Iranian intell. The ISI and Turkish Intell provided the leadership, it was funded by the Saudi Intell. and Mr. Omar Sheikh, who by the way masterminded the kidnapping of Daniel Pearl was indoctrinated by this operation. Then, to top it all, after Bosnia they were diverted to Kosovo by the CIA as part of the KLA or so it is reported by more than one source, I'll say. I would venture a GUESS, that some of those "MURDERED 7,500 MUSLIMS" were diverted to Kosovo instead of a mass grave.....


5 posted on 10/24/2006 6:55:49 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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there were substantiated reports of a large number of muslim 'refugees' from Zepa and Srebrenica that fled across the Drina into Serbia. The numbers vary and are unreliable, as you can say a large number of the males in that group continued onward to Kosovo.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 7:27:48 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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"as you can say a large number of the males in that group continued onward to Kosovo."

Imagine that! /sarc...what say about 2 to 3,000 had long beards, short pants legs,

no, way, are you saying it might be these'uns..:)

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91134-bosnia_p3705,00.html


7 posted on 10/24/2006 7:34:31 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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"We are deep deep in the Balkan cover-up and lying our butts off"
Everyone knows this except those who subscribe to mainstream media for their information…everyone knows this except the taxpayers who support these operations. I call it "An Inconvenient Truth".
8 posted on 10/24/2006 9:11:59 AM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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imagine so it is. as all that are familiar with the region, Sandjak is neighboring the Drina and safe houses and passageways are secured via radical imams/sheiks and there followers. i.e human trafficking...


9 posted on 10/24/2006 9:13:10 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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To: ma bell

that's what I like about this site...you don't have to explain the truth to most folks here. The ones that don't know die away pretty quickly......

LF is a good practice place....for naysayers. They are relentless and stupid.


10 posted on 10/24/2006 9:33:34 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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>>>>>>>One official in Zagreb said: “We are very grateful for his capture, though it is true we did not have Carshalton on our radar as a possible hideout. We had an international arrest warrant out for him, but we never expected him to be living a quiet life in London<<<<<<

Tom, Croatian government has put over 7000 arrest warrants through Interpol for alleged "war crimes". In many cases without any admissible evidence. This is deterrent to prevent Serb refugees return to Croatia. And guess what, it works.

Please note how this man is already judged to be notorious war criminal.

For Serbs there is no "inocent until proven guilty".

It is not even guilt by association, it is guilt by birth.

Nacism, in the purest form.

11 posted on 10/24/2006 10:26:18 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: tgambill

Thanks for the ping. I'm not knowledgeable enough about this to comment, but appreciate the learning opportunity.

Sage


12 posted on 10/24/2006 10:59:05 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: DTA

"Nacism, in the purest form."

It never occurred to me about this type of cleansing.....like I said, Deep Deep Pockets........

When these cowards and scum suckers can accuse Major General MacKenzie of those charges..and, wait a minute, he wrote a book..he was outspoken about the truth about these slim balls....I wonder if there is a connection? /sarc...

This means that he was warned, he didn't cave in and they followed up with their frame to prove to others how powerful they are. You see, this isn't about MacKenzie completely. They are making their moves, so they are covering their bases, discrediting the truth tellers, so that their secret agenda will remain secret. The price of gas is going down, the stock is going up......this will cause the average American to start investing in the stock market again, buying property with 'mortgages" and in about 2-3 years that stock market is going to fall like a rock........and the ones who invested in this ruse, will need help....and assistance....this is easy to see....

Oh well.........

goolian logic and BS.........


13 posted on 10/24/2006 12:19:11 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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