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Neanderthal man walks among us, Poland's far-right says
AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | Mon Oct 23, 2006 | Jean-Luc Testault

Posted on 10/24/2006 10:55:25 AM PDT by lizol

Neanderthal man walks among us, Poland's far-right says by Jean-Luc Testault

Mon Oct 23, 11:22 AM ET

WARSAW (AFP) - Poland's far-right League of Polish Families (LPR), which is part of the coalition government, claims Darwin's theory of evolution is all wrong, that humans lived alongside dinosaurs and that Neanderthal man is still among us.

Last week, Poland's deputy education minister Miroslaw Orzechowski, a member of the LPR, bluntly rejected British naturalist Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection and his postulate that man is descended from apes.

"The theory of evolution is a lie, a mistake that we have legalised as a common truth," said Orzechowski.

"We must not teach lies, just as we must not teach evil in the place of good and ugliness in the place of beauty."

This weekend, Orzechowski was given some high-level support when European lawmaker for the far-right party, Maciej Giertych -- the father of LPR leader Roman Giertych -- told a seminar that Neanderthal man still roams the planet, notably in the United States where examples can be spotted in a boxing ring.

"A scientist showed me a picture of an American boxer. He had all the traits of Neanderthal man. These people are among us. They are part of the human race, probably more prevalent once upon a time, but who still exist," Giertych, who has a doctorate in biology, told the seminar.

Taking up the mantra of creationists -- who have a strong following among Christian fundamentalists in the United States, but whose theory that God created all living creatures at the same time has not won a huge following in Europe -- Giertych also propounded that man and dinosaurs roamed the earth together.

"Research shows that dinosaurs and man were contemporaries. In every culture, there are indications that we remember (dinosaurs). The Scots have Loch Ness, we Poles have Wawel dragon (in Krakow), Marco Polo spoke of an imperial carriage in China which was pulled by a dragon," Giertych said.

Giertych's son Roman, currently Poland's education ministry, insisted, however, that such anti-Darwinist outlooks would not impact on the school curriculum.

"The status of the theory of evolution will not change in Polish schools," he said Monday in a radio interview.

But he held back from condemning those who have criticised Darwin.

Meanwhile, teachers appear to fear there could be a backlash, with only those who toe the creationist line making it through the selection process in Poland's education system.

Centre-left daily Gazeta Wyborcza reported last week that a high school in the central city of Lodz had removed posters showing the evolution of man from the australopithec to homo sapiens.

Teachers' fears are understandable as LPR has been trying, since it joined the three-way coalition government in May, to stamp its ideology on Poland's education system.

In June, the head of a teacher training school in Poland was fired for publishing the Polish language version of a Council of Europe brochure that the education ministry said encourages contact between pupils and gay groups.

Under Giertych, the education ministry has also tried to take the works of Polish 20th century writer Witold Gombrowicz off the curriculum in Polish high schools, arguing that he was not patriotic enough.

To counter the LPR's anti-Darwin message, Poles have turned to the late pope John Paul II, who in a speech to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences in 1996 said: "Truth cannot contradict truth."

"Today, almost half a century after the publication of the Humani Generis encyclical (in 1950 by Pius XII), new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis," John Paul II said.

"It is remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favor of this theory," the pope said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: evolution; giertych; poland
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To: ichabod1

"Nothing for me. I don't have much of an appetite."

21 posted on 10/24/2006 11:13:30 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: lizol
Centre-left daily Gazeta Wyborcza

Some bright detail out of this story. At least foreign media start to go in good direction calling them more properly. I hate when they are labeled as “newspaper of Polish democratic opposition”

22 posted on 10/24/2006 11:14:41 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: lizol

John F'n Kerry is a walking 'Neanderthal'.


23 posted on 10/24/2006 11:15:02 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Dick Vomer
I'll have the roast duck with mango sauce ... (said with a large marshmellow in each cheek)

My wife and I say that almost everyday to eachother around dinner tim eand LOL each time. i forget what the first guy ordered and would love to know.

24 posted on 10/24/2006 11:16:51 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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To: null and void

ROTFL, see my post above this. What did the first caveman order? My wife and I can't remember.


25 posted on 10/24/2006 11:17:52 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Haul out the "Redheads Are Neanderthals" links, please.....:))


26 posted on 10/24/2006 11:18:26 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: lizol
First!!!!!!!


27 posted on 10/24/2006 11:18:38 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: lizol

28 posted on 10/24/2006 11:20:01 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: K4Harty

Only one caveman ordered. The other said he didn't have much of an appetite.


29 posted on 10/24/2006 11:20:40 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: K4Harty

Nothing. He didn't have much of an appetite.


30 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:00 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: dc-zoo; wtc911

Thank you.


31 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:53 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If a pug barks and no one is around to hear it... they hold a grudge for a long time!)
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To: K4Harty
What did the first caveman order?

First caveman: "I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa."

Second caveman: "Nothing for me. I don't have much of an appetite."

Which I always thought was a surprisingly sophisticated put-down...

32 posted on 10/24/2006 11:22:07 AM PDT by null and void (Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
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To: lizol

"Troglodyte"

(As recorded by Jimmy Castor Bunch)
JIMMY CASTOR BUNCH

What we're gonna do right here is go back
Way back into time
When the only people that existed were Troglodytes
Cave men, cave woman, Neadrothol, Troglodytes
Imagine the average cave man at home
Listening to his stereo
Sometimes he'd get up and dance
He'd move something like this "dance dance"
He'd get tired of dancing alone and look in the mirror
And say "gotta find a woman"
"Gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman"
Then he'd go down to the lake where all the girls
Would be swimming or washing clothes or something
And he'd grab one by the hair
You can't do that today fellas
'Cause it might come off
You have a hand full of hair
And she'd be swimming away from you
This was a big woman, big
Her name was Bertha, Bertha Butt -- one of the Butt sisters
She looked down on him
And started to crush him
Then she began to play him
He looked up at her and said "sock it to me"
"Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me"
She looked down on him
And said "I'll sock it to you daddy"
And you know what he said
He started it all way back then
I ain't gonna lie to you
He said "right on, right on"
Hot pants, hot pants
Uh uh uh.

(c) Copyright 1972 by Jimpire Music.

- HIT PARADER, October 1972.


33 posted on 10/24/2006 11:22:14 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: razzle
"...neither way it is a human". You omitted "n".
34 posted on 10/24/2006 11:22:41 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: D-Chivas

She is a relation to the Loch Ness monster.


35 posted on 10/24/2006 11:23:56 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Salamander

Redheads aren't Neanderthals, they are not from this planet. Of course no one as wonderful as a redhead could be from this planet.(just in case the wife is watching)


36 posted on 10/24/2006 11:25:36 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Alter Kaker

Well, look at the picture of the heavyweight boxer Valuev[?]. He's based in the United States, I believe. That skull is most certainly not human, with sloping forehead and brow ridges. So much for the Giertych's racism.


37 posted on 10/24/2006 11:26:11 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Alter Kaker
Maciej Giertych definitely knows what he's talking about. From his very own experience.

These are pictures of his son, Roman. Any doubts? :-)))










38 posted on 10/24/2006 11:26:22 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: ichabod1
I know. The caveman series of commercials are absolutely hilarious, I LOL every time they appear.

Cavemen around the world are insulted when compared to Michael Moore, Helen Thomas, Neil Young and especially John Kerry (did you know that he served in Vietnam?) Cavemen are braver, better looking, smarter, more artistic, and have better table manners!

ROFLMAO

39 posted on 10/24/2006 11:31:36 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: lizol

Who would you rather welcome as a son in law?

40 posted on 10/24/2006 11:33:05 AM PDT by Dutchgirl ([S]tupidity knows no ideology." ---John Fund)
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