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[Canada] Evangelical schools ordered to teach Darwin (Or be shut down)
The National Post ^ | October 24, 2006 | David Rogers

Posted on 10/24/2006 11:19:52 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

OTTAWA - The Quebec Ministry of Education has told unlicensed Christian evangelical schools that they must teach Darwin's theory of evolution and sex education or close their doors after a school board in the Outaouais region complained the provincial curriculum was not being followed.

"Quebec children are legally required to follow the provincial curriculum ... but these evangelical schools teach their own courses on creationism and sexuality that don't follow the Quebec curriculum," said Pierre Daoust, director-general of the Commission Scolaire au Coeur-des-Vallees in Thurso, Que.

Mr. Daoust's complaint sparked the province-wide investigation.

Quebec law requires school boards to assure the Ministry of Education that every child between the ages six of and 16, with the exception of home-schooled children, receives an adequate education, he said.

But the 20 elementary and high school students who attend a school operated by Eglise Evangelique near Saint-Andre-Avellin, Que., are being educated according to a Bible-based curriculum and their high school diplomas will not be recognized anywhere in Canada, he said.

Supporters of Eglise Evangelique, part of the l'Association des eglises evangeliques du Quebec, counter that the school teaches a "world view" that is essential for their students.

"We offer a curriculum based on a Christian world view rather than humanistic world view," said Alan Buchanan, chairman of a committee that reorganized the school's administration this past summer, as well as a former Quebec public school teacher.

Mr. Buchanan said Eglise Evangelique teaches evolution as well as intelligent design.

"We want the children to understand what they're going to meet in the outside world, and also what's wrong with the theory," he said. "We also teach that a better theory -- that God created the universe and so on."

While the school doesn't teach sex education, it does teach biology, he said.

"You have the Christian world view that says sex should only be in the marriage and a public school system that teaches kids about sexuality," Mr. Buchanan said. "We believe students should be taught abstinence."

He said the school met provincial guidelines during two reviews conducted in the 1990s, although they were asked to add a Canadian history course.

Ministry spokeswoman Marie-France Boulay said yesterday the province will negotiate for several weeks with an unspecified number of evangelical schools to determine whether they can meet provincial standards that include the teaching of Darwin's theory of evolution.

Ms. Boulay said two or three unlicensed evangelical schools in the Outaouais are affected.

In addition to the 20 students at Eglise Evangelique, another 40 students attend an unlicensed evangelical school in Gatineau, Que., which falls under the jurisdiction of the Commission Scolaire des Draveurs. There is a third in Hull, Que., Mr. Daoust said. The other school boards haven't complained.

The Quebec government knows of about 30 unlicensed religious schools in the province, including Hasidic schools and several evangelical Christian schools in Montreal, said Dermod Travis, who served on Quebec's Comite sur la langue d'enseignement, a tribunal that hears special cases from the province's educational system.

Other religious denominations may operate faith-based schools as well, but no one really knows where they are.

The Quebec government has known about unaccredited religion-based schools for years, but has tolerated them for fear of offending the denominations sponsoring them.

Members of the Pentecostal Eglise Nouvelle Alliance in Gatineau, which operates a school for about 40 students, refused to discuss the Ministry of Education investigation because their minister, Charles Boucher, is out of Canada until Nov. 1.

Ontario schools are not required to teach either evolution or sex education, said Elaine Hopkins, executive director of the 900-member Ontario Federation of Independent Schools, which has 120,000 children attending schools with a few as 10 students and as many as 1,000.

Many parents send their children to independent schools because they object to the teaching of certain subjects in the public schools, she said. "These are issues that should be decided by the parents, not the province."

At the elementary level in Ontario, there are no curriculum requirements for independent schools at all, although Ms. Hopkins points out that the industry is market-driven.

"It's called direct accountability to the parents," she said. "If you're not going to teach reading, writing and arithmetic, the parents aren't going to pay for it."

At the high school level in Ontario, independent schools are inspected by Ministry of Education officials to ensure that they meet curriculum and hours-of-instruction guidelines for credits to be accepted by the ministry.


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1 posted on 10/24/2006 11:19:55 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Won't be long till that happens here.

Come Lord Jesus, preserve your sheep.
2 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:29 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; Elsie; LiteKeeper; ...


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3 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:32 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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4 posted on 10/24/2006 11:21:47 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Happened somewhat in Germany. Parents were arrested by the state for homeschooling their children.


5 posted on 10/24/2006 11:22:24 AM PDT by The Blitherer (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What you teach and how you teach it are of course two different things.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 11:23:32 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Liberals would let Mark Foley be a Boy Scout leader.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The "tolerance" of the left strikes again.


7 posted on 10/24/2006 11:24:03 AM PDT by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I wonder if a test oriented education system might be more appropriate. For example, a student would be required to take tests on different subject material appropriate for a grade level.

A first grade student would take 1st grade math, 1st grade science, spelling etc. A sixth grader would do the same for their level of education.

Upon obtaining enough passing scores, the student would receive their elementary, pre-HS, and HS certifications / diplomas.

Such a system would then open up a whole new education industry where companies could hire actors or educators to film a specific subject or instruction block, and provide the training over the web or via CD or other media.
8 posted on 10/24/2006 11:26:18 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What does Canada require of the Muslim schools? Do they have to follow the secular humanist curriculum? How about "fair and balanced," Cannucks?


9 posted on 10/24/2006 11:26:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: DaveLoneRanger
You are safer in the lions' den, than compromise with evil.


Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
10 posted on 10/24/2006 11:29:58 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Quebec law requires school boards to assure that every child, with the exception of home-schooled children, receives an adequate education.

Apparently they are prevented by law from receiving a superior education. Fortunately, the home-schooled children are exempt from this limitation. :^)

11 posted on 10/24/2006 11:30:50 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Unfortunately, this is the Quebec provincial government.

Maybe the Catholic bishops could weigh in, in support of the rights of their Evangelical brothers, although Quebec is pretty far gone down the route of secularization and modernization within the Church.


12 posted on 10/24/2006 11:32:10 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: redgolum

Oh Canada! (Eeek, I don't know French for the word Oh) Oh well, I don't live in Canada, sorry.


13 posted on 10/24/2006 11:33:48 AM PDT by Ace's Dad ("There are more important things: Friendship, Bravery...")
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To: kittymyrib
What does Canada require of the Muslim schools? Do they have to follow
the secular humanist curriculum? How about "fair and balanced," Cannucks?


The Canadian educational authorities aren't stupid.

They'll only try to control cirriculum of a group that doesn't saw heads
off helpless civilians.
14 posted on 10/24/2006 11:33:52 AM PDT by VOA
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To: pulaskibush
It's the Quebec government ~ not the left (per se), and they have their own agenda. For one thing they don't want any more Evangelicals or Fundamentalists living in Quebec than they can get away with.

There's a long tradition of forced conversions in La Belle Province doncha know, and some people there would like to bring it back.

In short, all is not as it seems when you have to deal with these guys.

15 posted on 10/24/2006 11:36:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Yet, Q-bec doesn't make the same demands of the many Islamic schools in that backwards province. The rest of Canada should cut that province loose. It costs them too much. That would end the liberal stronghold in Canada as well after redistribution of seats.

Shame, shame Q-bec. Stomping on Christianity again. St. Boniface would not be happy with this.


16 posted on 10/24/2006 11:43:56 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Outrageous.
17 posted on 10/24/2006 11:49:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: taxcontrol
Your idea about testing makes absolutely perfect sense, and it has a zero chance of happening because the NEA and their Dem sponsors will fight this all the way, just like they have fought vouchers.

If the testing process of "No Child Left Behind" would allow for this, it would cause a revolution in education, and the NEA and Dems will not allow it. After all, the NEA wants to protect its monopoly, and the Dems want to continue to get their NEA contributions. Forget about the fact that this would greatly aid our children.

18 posted on 10/24/2006 11:52:25 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: taxcontrol

"A first grade student would take 1st grade math, 1st grade science, spelling etc. A sixth grader would do the same for their level of education."

And since it's state mandated, the first grader would really be tested on multicultural sensitivity and contributions of the gay/transgender community. And the 6th grader would be tested on the greatness of communism, how evil the USA is, why families are bad, and exotic sex positions.

Then while our children have no concept of math, literature, or moral boundaries, we would wonder why our schools are falling so far behind, and the politicians and teachers unions would demand more money.


19 posted on 10/24/2006 12:01:38 PM PDT by dan1123
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I'm in favor of less government intrusion into peoples lives but, in a case like this where the so-called school is deliberately and maliciously destroying the minds of innocent young children by filling them with superstitious myths while hiding and distorting the most basic scientific theory of biology from them, the government is right to step in and stop an obvious case of child abuse.
20 posted on 10/24/2006 12:16:55 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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