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EXCLUSIVE: Ad Response To Michael J. Fox running in Missouri
Drudge ^ | 10/24/06 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 10/24/2006 2:26:06 PM PDT by teddyballgame

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To: Republican Red

Kinda hard not to pay attention to JESUS! lol They all did a good job in the video especially Patricia Heaton.


251 posted on 10/25/2006 11:50:22 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: cinives
You clearly have no idea what this amendment is. Check your facts.

I suggest you do that. Someone posted the entire ammendment here on FR yesterday. YOU might try reading it before YOU spout off. Going by what a bunch of of pro life activists tells you is stupid.

Amendment 2 would provide for the legality of cloning humans, and as such would certainly make the MS legislature appropriate tax dollars to fund the research.

Semantics. You probably believe a human cell is a human clone. I dont. I dont believe human life begins at conception. A clone of a human being is a human being, not a zygote. The ammendment doesnt require spending on the part of the state, it just forbids them to pass laws to seek retribution on organizations that conduct research or offer treatments you dont like.

It's a MS constitutional amendment trying to be passed by the Dems, not conservatives. You need to understand an issue before you spout off about it.

Its being supported by more than 40% of Republicans and nearly 70% of the residents of the state and Missouri is a red state. Former Republican Senator is Chief spokesman. Republican Governor is supporting it. Talent suppported it before he got the word and flip flopped.

252 posted on 10/25/2006 12:31:01 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: two134711
Many people suffer from incurable diseases, but they do not require others to die so that they may live

Who are these "others" you refer to? You act as though the ammendment was authorizing forced organ donations. The zygotes at the fertization clinics are going to be destroyed regardless. It's stupid to assume dumping them in the bio waste container is a more noble "death". To follow your logic, you must be a vegetarian. For many animals show more humanness and consciousness than a zygote. How can you bitch and moan over a few cells when you slaughter cattle and pigs? Heck I wouldnt be suprised if your veggies have as much consciousness as your zygotes.

253 posted on 10/25/2006 12:37:22 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
"And probably wouldnt be needed if the Republicans hadnt gone goofy over Terry [sic] Schiavo."

I would rather crawl over broken glass to support a bunch of 'goofy' 'Republicans' when it comes to the First Conservative Rule : Preserve Life. Dobson had little to do with our opposition to starving Terri -- she was a Catholic, and that's where her supported eminated.

As for the Starvation Nation, they had the Democratic Socialists of American caucus standing with them front and center.

254 posted on 10/25/2006 1:15:22 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Jedidah; ZGuy; All
Okay I got a reply back from Ian. This is exactly what he said. Apparently, Mr Caviezel's gaelic leaves something to be desired. LOLL BTW, the bold is my addition and this would go with what he was trying to get across - dont' be fooled by the "actor".

Lol, if he's trying to talk in Irish Gaelic he's making a dog dinner of it. I can tell you what he said (don't be fooled-don't be taken in)

255 posted on 10/25/2006 1:27:09 PM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Dave S
"Its being supported by more than 40% of Republicans and nearly 70% of the residents of the state and Missouri is a red state."

Hey Davey, that was yesterday.

Jefferson City, MO (LifeNews.com) -- A new poll shows that support for Amendment 2, the Missouri measure that would have the state support human cloning and embryonic stem cell research, is dropping fast. The level of support has dropped from more than a 2-1 margin to less than 10 percent.

According to a new Survey USA poll released Tuesday, just 45 percent of Missouri voters say they plan to vote for Amendment 2 while 36 percent will vote against it and another 18 percent are undecided.

That's a huge difference from the last survey the polling firm did just two weeks ago.

On October 12, Survey USA had Amendment 2 ahead by a 57-27 percent margin with 16 percent undecided.


256 posted on 10/25/2006 1:54:10 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Dave S

Life is precious, but only human life is human life. It is from the right of existence that all freedoms hail. Never is it noble to destroy innocent human life in "fertility clinics" or elsewhere.

As for the rest of your rant, well sir, you don't know me, and I don't know you. But your numerous posts on this subject convey a rage that can deaden one's soul. If you weren't advocating the use of human beings as guinea pigs, I'd feel sorry for you.


257 posted on 10/25/2006 1:57:56 PM PDT by two134711 ("To take no notice of a violent attack is to strengthen the heart of the enemy.")
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To: ELS
What you need is someone with Parkinson's who opposes ESC research.

That was John Paul II.

I should have thought of that!
Even if I'm not a Catholic!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get out there and push for accelerated ADULT
stem cell work...for my middle-aged memory!
258 posted on 10/25/2006 2:21:01 PM PDT by VOA
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To: JohnnyZ
Don't famous people have the right to free speech the same as everyone else?

While I believe they have a right to Free Speech, I would prefer that the likes Michael J. Fox, the Dixie Chicks and Kurt Warner stay out of politics.

259 posted on 10/25/2006 2:41:07 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: RWR8189

Where;'s the ORIGINAL ad?? I still have not seen it!


260 posted on 10/25/2006 2:54:58 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: teddyballgame
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nguJQ_dRPXw and vote "Awesome!" The leftists have down-rated it in hopes it won't get any exposure, but it is among the most viewed. Registration required.
261 posted on 10/25/2006 4:20:45 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: teddyballgame

What the Heck Is Jim Caveziel Saying in That Video? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

The Corner can end all suspense and officially confirm that in the commericial airing in St. Louis tonight Jim Caveziel says in Aramaic, "You betray me with a kiss." (Which is what a few readers, including one Aramaic student told The Corner last night.) As one source working to defeat Amendment 2 in Missouri explains (and if you've read Yuval Levin, our editorial, or any of my pieces on the issue you know this already): "It refers to the promises made on page one of the amendment that are betrayed on page 5. On page one Amendment 2 promises to ban human cloning and this is betrayed on page 5 where human cloning is enshrined in the Missouri constitution."

http://corner.nationalreview.com/


262 posted on 10/25/2006 4:54:34 PM PDT by Republican Red (if you don't want to root for the home team then get the hell out of the stadium)
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To: Dave S

"Semantics. You probably believe a human cell is a human clone. I dont. I dont believe human life begins at conception. A clone of a human being is a human being, not a zygote. The ammendment doesnt require spending on the part of the state, it just forbids them to pass laws to seek retribution on organizations that conduct research or offer treatments you dont like."

And when have you in all your wiseness decided that life starts?


263 posted on 10/25/2006 5:09:28 PM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: teddyballgame

Americans need to run Fox's ass back to Canada. We've got enough liberals in this country. We don't need any Canadian imports.


264 posted on 10/25/2006 6:04:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If it embarrasses you to prove your U.S. citizenship, DON'T VOTE!!!)
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To: Dave S

And again, I'm more interested in the 'right vs. wrong' aspect of this issue, while you are equating it all to 'who has the best mouthpiece'.

Hiring a 'decent' lawyer (isn't that an oxymoron?) doesn't even begin to address the moral issue(s) of the Shiavo case. But I guess that's a difference of opinion between myself and people like you, that I've been made fully aware of (and thanking God FOR).

If it ever gets to the point where I am agreeing with you and/or other people that think like you, I will no doubt be having to give thanks to another entity other than God. I pray that day never comes. And for your sake, you should do the same.

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Next time get the family to hire a decent lawyer rather than one provided by pro choice groups that were more interested in their agenda than they were in winning the case. Republican OVER reaching in that case is a major reason why their poll numbers have gone down the drain. The family availed themselves of the best legal system in the world, they just hired incompetent counsel who was more interested in making news than saving the client.


265 posted on 10/25/2006 7:27:40 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Da Mav

bttt


268 posted on 10/25/2006 9:03:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I just want to point out that I can't be too angry at Fox. He made an ad in 2004 for a republican. I don't think his issue is based upon party its based upon his feelings about stem cell research. I don't have Parkinson's, don't know anyone that does and I can't say what I would do if I did. But I can't be angry at him for being a "liberal" when I didn't get angry at him for doing the same exact thing for a republican.
269 posted on 10/25/2006 9:54:35 PM PDT by beldew
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To: beldew

Don't get me wrong. I'm tickled to death that Fox made these ads for the DemocRATS. By doing so, he made Rush Limbaugh the number one target of the leftist MSM with only 12 days left to go. Rush isn't even running for anything. LOL! I love it!


270 posted on 10/25/2006 10:01:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If it embarrasses you to prove your U.S. citizenship, DON'T VOTE!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

yes but my point was that it becomes a bit hypocritical to go after someone like Rush did. Had he done the same thing in 2004, then it wouldn't be an issue. And one thing I do know is that being ON the medication is what makes you shake like that when you have Parkinson's. When you are OFF of it, you become almost catatonic and can not move at all.


271 posted on 10/25/2006 10:06:29 PM PDT by beldew
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To: rafaelmartin
The support is dropping like a rock. I was surprised too, but Missouri is a state wherein most support life. Medicine is big there, esp. in St. Louis area, which may account for much of the support. Once the truth gets out however, this monstrosity is doomed.

It is a shame the game was rained out this evening. Hopefully there will be additional runs of the ad. God bless these men and this woman for using their influence for the benefit of those with no voice!

272 posted on 10/26/2006 1:09:41 AM PDT by Lexinom (www.VoteYesForLife.com -- the only chance?)
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To: beldew
But I can't be angry at him for being a "liberal" when I didn't get angry at him for doing the same exact thing for a republican.

Can you get angry at him for NOT taking his meds prior to making the commercial so that his tics would be worse?

273 posted on 10/26/2006 3:50:15 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: beldew
And one thing I do know is that being ON the medication is what makes you shake like that when you have Parkinson's. When you are OFF of it, you become almost catatonic and can not move at all.

Yesterday on Fox and Friends Sean Hannity said that Michael J Fox admitted to NOT taking his meds prior to making the ad so that his tic would be worse.

274 posted on 10/26/2006 3:53:13 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: theDentist

Patty Heaton is a conservative Christian, pro-life lady who's not only a great actress but a stunningly beautiful woman.

She also happens to be my future wife.

But please don't tell her that. It's a surprise.


275 posted on 10/26/2006 5:15:30 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Shadowfax

Not a problem... but my hazy prognosticator abilities forsee a restraining order in your future somewhere about the 3rd time you meet her...


276 posted on 10/26/2006 5:31:22 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: chieflyjohnross

So.... I am confused...was Fox's ad at all involved with the cloning aspect? He never mentions Amendment 2 in it??


277 posted on 10/26/2006 6:08:54 AM PDT by amutr22 (Remember....Friend's Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat!)
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To: Dave S

I can agree with this, yet what is the alternative? If these embryos are being made in fertlility clinics and then not implanted in the woman, there is no way to regulate that they be donated to science. So, what is the answer?


278 posted on 10/26/2006 6:12:04 AM PDT by amutr22 (Remember....Friend's Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat!)
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To: isthisnickcool; teddyballgame; Jedidah; FlashBack; ZGuy
aramaic?

"You betray me with a kiss."

The document appears to ban cloning at the beginning but by page 5 has totally reversed itself and made cloning a Right.

279 posted on 10/26/2006 1:23:56 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: amutr22

"As you might know I care deeply about stem cell research,"
"In Missouri you can elect Claire McCaskill, who shares my hope for cures."

(Lie #1) "Unfortunately, Senator Jim Talent opposes expanding stem cell research,"
(Lie #2) "Senator Talent even wanted to criminalize the science that gives us a chance for hope."


"what you do in Missouri matters to millions of Americans. Americans like me."



(The Senate bill)

Earlier this year, Talent WITHDREW his support for a Senate bill that would ban all embryonic stem cell research and impose a million-dollar fine and jail sentence on violators.

(Missouri Amendment 2)
But he opposes the Missouri ballot initiative, claiming it would "make cloning human life at the earliest stage a constitutional right."

Supporters of the state referendum deny that assertion, noting the language of the proposed constitutional amendment explicitly bans human cloning.



Novak Writes about the amendment 2 obfuscation

But Amendment 2 is identified for many Missouri voters by the language at the beginning of the five-page, 2,000-word ballot initiative: "No person may clone or attempt to clone a human being." That explains why polls have shown a substantial margin of support for the constitutional amendment, also backed by key Republican politicians and business interests. It seems to offer the best of all worlds: government support of stem cell research without fear of cloning.

The problem is that the proposal so narrowly defines cloning as to open the door in Missouri to any cloning procedure that takes place outside the womb.

Talent at that time was taking no position on Amendment 2, but he has since come out against it. In a recent debate with the Democratic Senate candidate, state Auditor Claire McCaskill, on NBC's "Meet the Press," Talent said the proposal "would create ... an unqualified constitutional right to clone the earliest stages of human life. " But he hastened to add he is not against stem cell research.

Amendment 2 bans only cloning that involves planting an embryo within the womb. It specifically prohibits government from interfering with somatic cell nuclear transfer, which involves replacing the nucleus of a human egg outside the womb -- the cloning procedure used to produce Dolly the sheep.

Unequivocally, the proposal tries to keep politicians from interfering with its approved cloning process:

"[N]o state or local government body or official shall eliminate, reduce, deny or withhold any public funds provided or eligible to be provided to a person that lawfully conducts stem cell research or provides stem cell therapies and cures."


280 posted on 10/26/2006 1:27:43 PM PDT by listenhillary (Islam = Religion of peace. If you say otherwise, we'll kill you!)
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To: gnarledmaw

Yes. From The Corner, yesterday evening:

What the Heck Is Jim Caveziel Saying in That Video? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

The Corner can end all suspense and officially confirm that in the commericial airing in St. Louis tonight Jim Caveziel says in Aramaic, "You betray me with a kiss." (Which is what a few readers, including one Aramaic student told The Corner last night.) As one source working to defeat Amendment 2 in Missouri explains (and if you've read Yuval Levin, our editorial, or any of my pieces on the issue you know this already): "It refers to the promises made on page one of the amendment that are betrayed on page 5. On page one Amendment 2 promises to ban human cloning and this is betrayed on page 5 where human cloning is enshrined in the Missouri constitution."

Posted at 7:18 PM


281 posted on 10/26/2006 1:37:40 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Shadowfax

You sure you're not confusing her with Morgan Fairchild, Mr. Lovitz?

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She also happens to be my future wife.

But please don't tell her that. It's a surprise.


282 posted on 10/26/2006 7:58:41 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

Not at all. I've BEEN married to Morgan Fairchild and I have seen her naked.

I will be married to Patty Heaton. After that, I'm sure I WILL see her naked.

Please don't confuse my fantasies again. Sometimes I have problems keeping them straight.


283 posted on 10/27/2006 6:01:07 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Shadowfax

Hehehehe.....okey dokey! Being a rather imaginative female, I have no idea what this strange obsession males have with fantasies is all about. You believe me, don't ya?

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Please don't confuse my fantasies again. Sometimes I have problems keeping them straight.


284 posted on 10/27/2006 3:45:25 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Mo1

Great post. This amendment is going down in flames, as it should...since it was hatched in hell...


285 posted on 10/29/2006 9:29:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Don't be a Nancy Boy, Vote Republican!")
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