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EXCLUSIVE: Ad Response To Michael J. Fox running in Missouri
Drudge ^ | 10/24/06 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 10/24/2006 2:26:06 PM PDT by teddyballgame

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To: Darkwolf377
R's discover backbone at last.

It's not a Republican ad, it's not a Talent ad. There is no mention of candidates. It's a non partisan ad opposing Ammmendment II.

51 posted on 10/24/2006 3:12:55 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S

Is it on TV?


52 posted on 10/24/2006 3:15:37 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: tobyhill
This response is necessary because of the total BS of MLB allowing a political ad during a sporting event.

I dont believe it was aired anywhere except in Missouri. It was a local ad supporting ammendment II and McCaskill. I dont believe MLB had anything to do with its being run. I believe McCaskill bought time on local Missouri stations.

53 posted on 10/24/2006 3:16:13 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
It's not a Republican ad, it's not a Talent ad. There is no mention of candidates. It's a non partisan ad opposing Ammmendment II.

LOL! Dave, your DUmmie like rhetoric ain't going to suprress Michael J. Fox's pro-abortion views.

54 posted on 10/24/2006 3:17:25 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: RWR8189

Thanks for the link BUMP!


55 posted on 10/24/2006 3:17:33 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: RobFromGa

There are ads out here that are telling us to vote for McCaskill because she is pro=stem cell and against Talent because a vote for him means that Missouri won't benefit from any advances made by stem cell research. THAT'S why the matchup.


56 posted on 10/24/2006 3:17:35 PM PDT by StarCMC ("So what was the price to betray us - Judas?" - SGT Mark Russak to Traitor Murtha)
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To: Kuksool
While Claire McCaskill wants to be the "Wicked Witch of the Midwest".

She wins! LOL

57 posted on 10/24/2006 3:19:55 PM PDT by StarCMC ("So what was the price to betray us - Judas?" - SGT Mark Russak to Traitor Murtha)
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To: ZGuy; All

"In the first 2 seconds of the ad Jim Caviezel says what sounds like "La bora nash bin a shak." I assume that's Aramaic for something??"

Yeah . . . I wondered about that, too. Kinda weird. Is it supposed to be a flashback to his Jesus role? What is he saying?


58 posted on 10/24/2006 3:20:00 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: tobyhill

I hope the advert will be a silver bullet.

We'll need one to overcome that $30 million spent pushing Amendment 2.


59 posted on 10/24/2006 3:20:01 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Dave S
I don't know what you are talking about. I see Talent signs all over West St. Louis county, and very few McCaskill.

Be careful, your slip is showing.

60 posted on 10/24/2006 3:20:20 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter (Go Cards! Go Cards! Go Cards! Beat the Kitty cats.)
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To: mc5cents; All
Holy cow. What happened to Alex P. Keaton of Family Ties? He was a republican in that and the old man was the whinney liberal. He must have switched roles.

Another irony is Michael Gross who portrayed the "whiney, liberal, old man" is a Conservative Republican, from most of what I've read.

61 posted on 10/24/2006 3:20:34 PM PDT by olde north church (Global Warming Denier)
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To: Dane

I mean the anti 2 ad.


62 posted on 10/24/2006 3:21:01 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: teddyballgame

As somone on another thread suggested--if michael is so gung ho about this, let him use his own wife and stem cells to hunt for a cure.--or perhaps he wouldn't want his own family used for this crap.--someone else is fine though.


63 posted on 10/24/2006 3:21:04 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Mo1

"Fox made ads against other republicans in at least 2 other States"

Nice to see the Canadiens getting in on the bashing of Republicans.

Fox should shut his mouth or go home.


64 posted on 10/24/2006 3:21:47 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Murtha is even cutting and running from a debate.)
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To: VOA

Don't count on it, that little Fox acting job was pretty good.


65 posted on 10/24/2006 3:21:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Jedidah

Something subliminal? "The chicken flys at sunrise" perhaps?


66 posted on 10/24/2006 3:23:22 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: teddyballgame
So what is the issue here?

Fox is in favor of stem cell research.

This is because he suffers from a disease that attacks his nervous system.

So stem cell research might help him and other who have similar afflictions.

While I understand that there is a moral objection to "embryonic" stem cell research, beyond that, what is the problem?
67 posted on 10/24/2006 3:23:46 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: olde north church
Another irony is Michael Gross who portrayed the "whiney, liberal, old man" is a Conservative Republican, from most of what I've read.

That reminds me of Carroll O'Conner, of Archie Bunker fame, who I've heard is/was a big lib in real life.

Of course, Meathead is/was consistent throughout in real life.

68 posted on 10/24/2006 3:25:14 PM PDT by Marathoner
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi

The "fetus-sucking vampire"

Liberal bratboy Michael J. glosses over the cannibalism and vampirism just a tad.

69 posted on 10/24/2006 3:26:03 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: EQAndyBuzz
From what I understand Fox became a US citizen a couple years back

I guess the socialize medicine the Dems/Libs keep pushing is ok for other people then themselves
70 posted on 10/24/2006 3:26:43 PM PDT by Mo1 (GET OUT AND VOTE - SAY NO TO DEMOCRATS)
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To: tobyhill

I'm not optimistic. All the polls make it sound like Amendment 2 will pass.

But I am heartened to see that someone is at least putting up a fight.
The best discussion of reasons to vote against Amendment 2 I've seen was
on EWTN (the Catholic cable station).
I just stumbled across it Friday night...and I'm not Catholic.
I hadn't heard about a lot of the fine print. It's just a money-maker for
lawyers, hospital and researchers, even if they never come up with a cure.
(they'll just feast on research $$$ provided by the state taxpayers)


71 posted on 10/24/2006 3:29:13 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Jedidah
Yeah . . . I wondered about that, too. Kinda weird. Is it supposed to be a flashback to his Jesus role? What is he saying?

OK, this is a joke. OK, a joke. Here is what he said in aramaic:

"I'm jesus and I approved this ad".

OK, I'm going to hell now. Bye....

72 posted on 10/24/2006 3:29:39 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (The City Council of Houston Texas is made up mostly of retards.)
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To: WhiteGuy
While I understand that there is a moral objection to "embryonic" stem cell research, beyond that, what is the problem?

Well for 1 its proven not to work. It causes tumors and adult stem cells have show far more promise in helping people with MS then Embryonic Stem Cells.

All this is, this the cannibalization of those that have no voice for something that had not proven to be effective!

Wonder how Mike Fox would feel if it was discovered that by sucking out the brains of MS victims and extracting their DNA you could cure cancer?

73 posted on 10/24/2006 3:32:00 PM PDT by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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To: Republican Red
Featured are Jim Caviezel, Jeff Suppan, Kurt Warner, Patricia Heaton and Mike Sweeney

Heard of one of those guys. Never seen any of them.

Is Caviezel the one sitting in front of a brick wall that looks like he's wearing a prisoner's jumpsuit?

74 posted on 10/24/2006 3:35:31 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: WhiteGuy

Talent is not against stem cell research. Fox's ads not only say Talent is against it, he says Talent wants to CRIMINALIZE it, an even worse lie.

Also, Rush, who follows this closely because he is from Missouri, said the issue on the ballot there is an attempt to force human cloning on the public by putting it in the MO constitution and by mandating public funding for it. He said the ballot issue there is about human cloning, NOT stem cell research. But that the proponents have named it the Stem Cell Research for Cures propostion or something like that, in order to confuse people into voting for it.

A final point: there is a lot of stem cell research going on in Missouri right now, including embryonic stem cell research. The idea that somebody is stopping it is another lie.

I don't live in MO, obviously, so I have to pay close attention to others more in the know than I am.


75 posted on 10/24/2006 3:35:42 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Bommer
Well for 1 its proven not to work.

Yes, this was addressed. Beyond that what is the issue?


It causes tumors and adult stem cells have show far more promise in helping people with MS then Embryonic Stem Cells.


Thanks, Mr. Fox does not suffer from MS, so what is your point?

Wonder how Mike Fox would feel if it was discovered that by sucking out the brains of MS victims and extracting their DNA you could cure cancer?


Again, since you are clearly confused about the disease that is attacking Mr. Fox, perhaps you should direct your frustrations toward someone else?

My prayers are with you.
76 posted on 10/24/2006 3:37:41 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
don't know what you are talking about. I see Talent signs all over West St. Louis county, and very few McCaskill.

I dont get out much but I havent seen any in Ballwin. Maybe in Ladue but not around here. In past years my street used to be covered with them. The few they got out came too early. Just before the big storms last summer. I know my sign was destroyed by the storm that knocked power out of the area and so were several neighbors.

77 posted on 10/24/2006 3:38:15 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Blue Turtle

patricia heaton!


78 posted on 10/24/2006 3:39:19 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: trumandogz

That is just it, Michael J. Fox, ain't much of an actor. A 40 year old man playing teenager parts. Go figure.


79 posted on 10/24/2006 3:40:46 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The DNC - Marxist Party of America for Socialists, Commies, and Homosexuals!)
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To: txrangerette
Talent is not against stem cell research. Fox's ads not only say Talent is against it, he says Talent wants to CRIMINALIZE it, an even worse lie.

ok, so talent is in favor of stem cell research?

Also, Rush, who follows this closely because he is from Missouri, said the issue on the ballot there is an attempt to force human cloning on the public by putting it in the MO constitution and by mandating public funding for it.

Is this accurate? is limbaugh really following closely an issue that is being discussed in a state where he has not resided for 30 years?

A final point: there is a lot of stem cell research going on in Missouri right now, including embryonic stem cell research. The idea that somebody is stopping it is another lie.


So I guess it's really not much of an issue after all?

Mr Fox has his opinion, and please consider, since when is the mere opinion of some "entertainer" worthy of serious discussion?
80 posted on 10/24/2006 3:45:55 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (DeWine ranked as one of the ten worst border security politicians - Human Events)
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To: sam_paine

Jim Caviezel was the actor who played Jesus in Passion of the Christ.

Kurt Warner was the guy against the brick wall, who led the St. Louis Rams to 2 Super Bowls, so I guess you'd have to be a football fan. I suspect they threw the ad together at the last minute, hence the low-budget filming.

Suppan is pitching for the Cardinals tonight in the World Series.

Patricia Heaton was the co-star in one of the top-rated comedies for several years (Everyone Loves Raymond).

Mike Sweeney is the First Baseman and Designated Hitter for my beloved Royals, and gets hurt easy. But I really appreciate him doing the ad.

If you're not into sports or TV, you may not recognize them. I think a lot of Missourians will though.


81 posted on 10/24/2006 3:46:41 PM PDT by RabidBartender (Save the cheerleader, save the world.)
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To: mc5cents
Holy cow. What happened to Alex P. Keaton of Family Ties? He was a republican in that and the old man was the whinney liberal. He must have switched roles.

Yep

Who'd have thunk that Alex P. Keaton's PBS dad would grown up to be:

Burt Gummer

82 posted on 10/24/2006 3:50:01 PM PDT by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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To: Bommer; WhiteGuy
While I understand that there is a moral objection to "embryonic" stem cell research, beyond that, what is the problem?

"Well for 1 its proven not to work. It causes tumors and adult stem cells have show far more promise in helping people with MS then Embryonic Stem Cells."

That statement is not totally accurate, in fact it is probably misleading. ESCR is a relative new field when compared to Adult Stem Cell Research. It is still in the developmental/research phase so it hasn't been proven "not to work". We don't know yet if it will work but it offers additional promise because of the differentiating and proliferating properties of ESC vs ASC.

83 posted on 10/24/2006 3:51:17 PM PDT by evad
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To: isthisnickcool

:-)

In an otherwise aggravating political season, you made me smile. Thanks.


84 posted on 10/24/2006 3:53:39 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: txrangerette
Excellent point. The MSM has long accused conservatives of "banning" stem cell research. People buy it because it's easy to understand. They in fact just say that the taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill. Imagine outrage by these capitalist haters if government gave billions of dollars to Glaxo Smith Kline for R&D for a new drug that had no guarantee of working.
85 posted on 10/24/2006 3:56:03 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Dems are jackasses--not the good kind; the kind that were in that movie.)
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To: teddyballgame
Close enough to Ra
Embryonic stem cell research and G. Condit were the super important issues prior to 9-11. On 9-11 that occurred to me and it wrenched my gut.

(re life and escr: my views are the same as w's. re mjf: if he want to use his illness as a weapon then the battle is on.)


86 posted on 10/24/2006 3:56:39 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: The Blitherer

Didn't know that and Yes, She's quite the tomato.


87 posted on 10/24/2006 3:58:59 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: evad

April 23, 2002, 8:45 a.m.
Spinning Stem Cells
A damning reporting pattern.

By Wesley J. Smith

he pattern in the media reportage about stem cells is growing very wearisome. When a research advance occurs with embryonic stem cells, the media usually give the story the brass-band treatment. However, when researchers announce even greater success using adult stem cells, the media reportage is generally about as intense and excited as a stifled yawn.


As a consequence, many people in this country continue to believe that embryonic stem cells offer the greatest promise for developing new medical treatments using the body's cells — known as regenerative medicine — while in actuality, adult and alternative sources of stem cells have demonstrated much brighter prospects. This misperception has societal consequences, distorting the political debate over human cloning and embryonic-stem-cell research (ESCR) and perhaps even affecting levels of public and private research funding of embryonic and adult stem-cell therapies.

This media pattern was again in evidence in the reporting of two very important research breakthroughs announced within the last two weeks. Unless you made a point of looking for these stories — as I do in my work — you might have missed them. Patients with Parkinson's disease and multiple sclerosis received significant medical benefit using experimental adult-stem-cell regenerative medical protocols. These are benefits that supporters of embryonic-stem-cell treatments have yet to produce widely in animal experiments. Yet adult stem cells are now beginning to ameliorate suffering in human beings.

Celebrity Parkinson's disease victims such as Michael J. Fox and Michael Kinsley regularly tout ESCR as the best hope for a cure of their disease. Indeed, the Washington Post recently published a Kinsley rant on the subject in which the editor and former Crossfire co-host denounced opponents of human cloning as interfering with his hope for a cure. Yet as loudly as Fox and Kinsley promote ESCR in the media or before legislative committees, both have remained strangely silent about the most remarkable Parkinson's stem-cell experiment yet attempted: one in which researchers treated Parkinson's with the patient's own adult stem cells.

Here's the story, in case you missed it: A man in his mid-50s had been diagnosed with Parkinson's at age 49. The disease grew progressively, leading to tremors and rigidity in the patient's right arm. Traditional drug therapy did not help.

Stem cells were harvested from the patient's brain using a routine brain biopsy procedure. They were cultured and expanded to several million cells. About 20 percent of these matured into dopamine-secreting neurons. In March 1999, the cells were injected into the patient's brain.

Three months after the procedure, the man's motor skills had improved by 37 percent and there was an increase in dopamine production of 55.6 percent. One year after the procedure, the patient's overall Unified Parkinson's Disease Rating Scale had improved by 83 percent — this at a time when he was not taking any other Parkinson's medication!

That is an astonishing, remarkable success, one that you would have thought would set off blazing headlines and lead stories on the nightly news. Had the treatment been achieved with embryonic stem cells, undoubtedly the newspapers would have screamed loudly enough to be heard. Unfortunately, reportage about the Parkinson's success story was strangely muted. True, the Washington Post ran an inside-the-paper story and there were some wire service reports. But the all-important New York Times — the one news outlet that drives television and cable news — did not report on it at all. Nor did a search of the Los Angeles Times website yield any stories about the experiment.


More...


http://tinyurl.com/ya5e3v


88 posted on 10/24/2006 4:00:42 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Blue Turtle
A-and, she's much easier on the eye than when the libs drag Sarandon's wrinkled old a$$ out. It's refreshing to me to hear a woman who's a common sense feminist. She believes in EQUAL rights--not a bunch of made up crap or, worse yet, EXTRA rights for women to make up for the sins of the fathers.
89 posted on 10/24/2006 4:01:37 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Dems are jackasses--not the good kind; the kind that were in that movie.)
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To: teddyballgame; All

This is going to sound odd, but YouTube is blocked on my computer at work.

Is there anyone who can figure out a way I can watch this commercial???

P.S. I am a Cubs fan. If Suppan endorses Talent, go Cards!!!!! LOL


90 posted on 10/24/2006 4:02:32 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.")
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To: WhiteGuy
Well for 1 its proven not to work.
Yes, this was addressed. Beyond that what is the issue?

Carving up babies for junk science. What part of your "superior" intellect can't grasp that? If your that thick, I aint the one that needs the prayers

91 posted on 10/24/2006 4:02:59 PM PDT by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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To: freeperfromnj

There were some topnotch people featured in the rebuttal to Michael J. Fox. What Fox tried to do was deceptive. He suggested in his ad that Senator Jim Talent was anti stem cell research, which is a total lie (Talent is for research that doesn't kill human embryos) and those against stem cell research wanted to prosecute researchers, another lie and that stem cell research was prohibited in Missouri, another lie.


92 posted on 10/24/2006 4:05:13 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: conservativepoet

What did the ad say? (In a nutshell ;-)


93 posted on 10/24/2006 4:06:15 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia; cgk; Coleus

HERE IT IS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nguJQ_dRPXw


94 posted on 10/24/2006 4:07:34 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: evad

Parkinson's Action Network - Talking Points


Embryonic stem cell research hasn’t yet led to any human therapies because the field is in its infancy, and because President Bush’s restrictions have forced federally funded investigators to work with one arm tied behind their back. Scientists didn’t succeed in deriving human embryonic stem cells until 1998, and the first Federal grants in this area weren’t awarded until 2002. It’s no surprise that more diseases are currently being treated with adult stem cells; adult stem cell research had a 30-year head start. The fact is, our Nation’s best scientists, including many Nobel laureates, and even many researchers who make their living on adult stem cell research, believe that embryonic stem cell research has a unique potential to ease human suffering.


http://tinyurl.com/y9hfyl


95 posted on 10/24/2006 4:07:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: unspun

Thanks


96 posted on 10/24/2006 4:09:21 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: evad
In Aug., I caught an vulture capital ESCapist on Bloomberg pissing and moaning about ASC solely because of "scalability".

And we all know what that really meant in his terms -- ASC offers him no ability to flood the market with a patented product, and thusly line his pockets with millions of fetuses.

Scalability is a weak argument against ASC. That will be overcome long before ESC stops producing tumors.

And of course the moronic Bloomberg interviewer would not introduce the obvious question -- the very thing that limits ASC "scalability" is the very thing that ensures ASC treatments will never be rejected by the host donor!

Follow the money and you will learn that ESCapists are interested in two things, and two things only -- (1) fast money on the markets for what currently amounts to vaporware; and (2) codifying abortion, enabled & abetted by their DUm/MSM/Soros comrades.

97 posted on 10/24/2006 4:10:39 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: evad

Beneficiary of Adult Stem Cell Treatment for Parkinson's


Other than my Parkinson’s symptoms I was physically very active and fit. Because of this Dr. Levesque felt that I’d be a good candidate for an experimental treatment. He explained that he would take a very small tissue sample from my brain, removing its adult neural stem cells. He would then multiply and mature these cells into Dopamine Neurons, then inject these cells back into the left side of my brain. He proposed treating only the left side because it controls the right side of the body, the side with the most severe Parkinson’s symptoms.

Dr Levesque did not tell me that this treatment would permanently cure my condition. Science has yet to learn what causes Parkinson’s Disease, much less how to remove it. However, since this cell-replacement approach had never been tried in a human patient we hoped for the best. And since my only other realistic alternative was to continue growing worse until I eventually died, I decided to have the surgical procedures in 1999, one to remove the tissue and another to inject the cells. I was awake for both procedures, under local anesthesia.

Soon after having the cells injected my Parkinson’s symptoms began to improve. My trembling grew less and less, until to all appearances it was gone, only slightly reappearing if I became upset. Dr. Levesque had me tested by a Neurologist, who said he wouldn’t have known I had Parkinson’s if he had met me on the street. I was once again able to use my right hand and arm normally, enjoying activities that I given up hope of ever doing.



http://tinyurl.com/y9sd49


98 posted on 10/24/2006 4:11:19 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RobFromGa
The Fox ad seemed to be a McCaskill ad for Senate, this one appears to be an ad against the Amendment 2. What does the Senate race (a national position) have to do with the amendment? Why did Fox attack a Senate candidate who has only one vote on this amendment like any other MO citizen.

There is a real sense among the Amendment 2 supporters that it's expected strong support will help the Dems. They are appealing to the "reasonable" and the "pragmatic" and as a bonus sticking it to the religious zealots.

This is exactly how many of them think.

99 posted on 10/24/2006 4:11:30 PM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: WhiteGuy

The problem is that they ignore the promise of ADULT stem cells, which have an actual track record in helping cure disease, and their incessant push for EMBRYONIC stem cells, which have been shown by the University of Rochester to feed and cause tumors when injected into the brains of Parkinson's patients.

The second problem is that embryonic stem cell science is not illegal and is being researched as we speak using private funding unless on the existing stem cell lines approved by the President. The Dems are trying to convince an uninformed public that Republicans made it illegal. A patent falsehood.

Does that answer your question?


100 posted on 10/24/2006 4:11:53 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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