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Harold Ford: caught on video clips (who you gonna believe? me or your lyin' eyes?)
American Thinker ^ | 10/25/06 | Staff

Posted on 10/25/2006 6:32:31 AM PDT by teddyballgame

See for yourself. CNN Headline News reports on Harold Ford, Jr.’s campaign adviser’s claim (in response to a newspaper’s report that he never passed the bar examination) that he “never held himself out to be a lawyer”. Then, on CNN, Harold Ford states “I’m a lawyer.”


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I never said I was a lawyer...except when I said I was a lawyer.
1 posted on 10/25/2006 6:32:32 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: teddyballgame

He said it more than once.


2 posted on 10/25/2006 6:33:17 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: teddyballgame

Perhpas he just stayed at a Holiday Express.


3 posted on 10/25/2006 6:34:36 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: teddyballgame

Depends on what the meaning of lawyer is.


4 posted on 10/25/2006 6:35:10 AM PDT by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: teddyballgame

I'm having difficulty seeing your point.
What's wrong with his comment?
He merely echoes his Democrat
mentors.
"I voted for it before I voted against it."

<>g<>


5 posted on 10/25/2006 6:35:41 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: Victoria Delsoul

LOL ping.


6 posted on 10/25/2006 6:35:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Grendel9

For Libs, history starts when they get up in the morning.


7 posted on 10/25/2006 6:36:40 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: teddyballgame

CNN: These are not the droids you are looking for.


8 posted on 10/25/2006 6:37:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Grendel9


I passed the bar exam before I failed it.


9 posted on 10/25/2006 6:39:36 AM PDT by JRochelle (You can believe what you want, but you can't have your own facts!)
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To: teddyballgame

It doesn't matter to liberals they have their candidate. They will vote for him even if he is found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl. Even if after this they find that a Republican has sent an 18 year old a dirty IM they will scream about the Republican culture of corruption.

Besides Ford denied saying it, do you really think liberals care if he said it or not? Lying is their way of life.


10 posted on 10/25/2006 6:41:10 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: teddyballgame

Will Ford campaign call this racist too? After all, any criticism of a minority is racism.


11 posted on 10/25/2006 6:41:44 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: teddyballgame

It's clear that he is saying "liar", not "lawyer". So whenever you think that he's saying he's a lawyer, he's really saying that he's a liar.


12 posted on 10/25/2006 6:42:41 AM PDT by kaboom
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To: teddyballgame

Ford is a graduate of the Klinton school of creative lying. He also likes the (Playboy) girls. Does that remind you of anyone else? If Klinton hand't been our first black President, Ford might have something to shoot for.


13 posted on 10/25/2006 6:48:43 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: teddyballgame

Where is the thread that mentioned a female Ford?


14 posted on 10/25/2006 6:50:02 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

ROFL!!!


15 posted on 10/25/2006 6:54:45 AM PDT by pissant
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To: teddyballgame

Wait a minute. You're a lawyer if you graduate from law school. You get admitted to the bar in your state and can practice law if you pass the bar exam. I think it's fair for him to say he's a lawyer if he graduated from law school; he should just not say that he is a practicing attorney.


16 posted on 10/25/2006 6:56:31 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: kaboom

Perhaps you've heard one of the oldest jokes here in Washington?:

Question: "What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the Potomac?'

Answer: "A good start."

You throw a rock around here and you hit a lawyer(liar). :)


17 posted on 10/25/2006 6:57:10 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer

If a Republican said he liked football and he liked girls, the media would be screaming that it was an anti-homosexual comment.


18 posted on 10/25/2006 6:57:40 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: teddyballgame
I'm a lawyer.
19 posted on 10/25/2006 6:58:46 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: teddyballgame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTNNDbp9ns&mode=related&search=

Ford: "...I'm a lawyer, and you know you would hope all those who are interviewed would be truthful and candid and forthcoming..."


20 posted on 10/25/2006 6:59:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kaboom

It is that southern accent, he is definitely saying lair.


21 posted on 10/25/2006 7:00:33 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (A CARD CARRYING MEMBER OF THE VRWC!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Fairview

I think you're a lawyer if you practice law.


22 posted on 10/25/2006 7:08:05 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: teddyballgame

Slippery ethics on Ford's part. Makes him suitable to run as a Democrat. Fits right in with the party's principles.


23 posted on 10/25/2006 7:11:28 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: teddyballgame

If he holds a juris doctorate degree then he is a Doctor of the Law.

But not passing the bar? It is a tough test but it isn't *that* hard.


24 posted on 10/25/2006 7:12:10 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Ron in Acreage

"Will Ford campaign call this racist too?"

Sexist and homophobic, too. Have to invoke the Liberal Trinity at every opportunity -- even when you have to make one.

Repeat after me:

Racist and sexist and homophobic, oh my!
Racist and sexist and homophobic, oh my!
Racist and sexist and homophobic, oh my!
Racist and sexist and homophobic, oh my!


25 posted on 10/25/2006 7:12:21 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: swain_forkbeard

"I think you're a lawyer if you practice law."

But you have to be admitted to the bar of the court before you can practice in that jurisdiction.


26 posted on 10/25/2006 7:12:47 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Fairview
You're a lawyer if you graduate from law school.

That's not necessarily so. I don't know if it's by tradition or by law but those who have graduated law school but not yet passed the bar exam are not considered to be lawyers. As far as I know, the term 'lawyer' is reserved for those who have passed the bar exam.

27 posted on 10/25/2006 7:15:23 AM PDT by Bob
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To: teddyballgame

I guess then when my wife calls me a "space cadet" I can tell everyone that I'm an astronaut now! Always wanted to be one so now's my chance! Life is great. :0 )


28 posted on 10/25/2006 7:16:23 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Fairview

Nope, you're a JD if you graduate from law school - not a lawyer until you're admitted to a bar.


29 posted on 10/25/2006 7:17:28 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: teddyballgame
LOL...I don't know about practicing law, but I know that in most, if not all States, making a public statement presenting yourself as an Engineer when in fact you are not licensed by the State in the regulated profession, is deemed "practicing without a license"...which is unlawful. You can't even have business cards with the title "Engineer". Some of you Lawyer-type Freepers should shed some light on this for us.
30 posted on 10/25/2006 7:17:31 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("...the world will be...eleven degrees colder by the year 2000" -- K. Watt, Earth Day, 1970)
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To: popdonnelly; Fairview; Bob

Don't know the facts of this issue or if he claimed to have "practiced" law but, in some states (maybe all, I don't know) it's a felony to practice law without a license. And passing the bar exam is usually a prerequisite to being licensed.


31 posted on 10/25/2006 7:18:24 AM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: kaboom

Good one!


32 posted on 10/25/2006 7:20:02 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: swain_forkbeard
I'm decended from a ford therefore I could've been a lawyer.


33 posted on 10/25/2006 7:20:03 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: YdontUleaveLibs
All the more reason for we broken glass Republicans to get out and vote Pubbies into office, to bury these lying, blood-drenched democrats asap ... to not do so when we have this amazing opportunity of liberal exposure is to commit slow suicide and spit in the face of our courageous military personnel fighting the war on terrorists.
34 posted on 10/25/2006 7:24:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: kaboom

Did he take his tourette meds or the ones MJ Fox did'nt?


35 posted on 10/25/2006 7:25:08 AM PDT by colonialhk (not a sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: teddyballgame

I guess if the RNC ran an ad on this Ford would claim that's racist too.


36 posted on 10/25/2006 7:25:51 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: teddyballgame
I passed the NY bar but don't practice, and I have been known to self-identify as a lawyer. I think the key is passing a bar and getting a professional license.
37 posted on 10/25/2006 7:26:42 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: All
See FANCY FORD'S info on this website (hillarious!)

http://www.fancyford.com/dine/

38 posted on 10/25/2006 7:28:00 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: Fairview

You said: Wait a minute. You're a lawyer if you graduate from law school. You get admitted to the bar in your state and can practice law if you pass the bar exam. I think it's fair for him to say he's a lawyer if he graduated from law school; he should just not say that he is a practicing attorney.
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I have to disagree. If you graduate law school you are a law school graduate. You can put JD after your name (if you are lame). A lawyer is someone who practices law, and to do that you must pass the bar exam and be admitted to practice.

If I took a plumbing course at a technical school and passed it, I couldn't call myself a plumber unless I had a license.

Now, being a JOURNALIST is different, since there is no license required. All you have to do is write stuff-- I don't think you even have to be published.


39 posted on 10/25/2006 7:35:35 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: BenLurkin

You said: But not passing the bar? It is a tough test but it isn't *that* hard.
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It can't be too hard, even I passed it, and on the first try.


40 posted on 10/25/2006 7:37:14 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Fairview
"Wait a minute. You're a lawyer if you graduate from law school."

That's the MSM spin for a fellow Liberal but it's not the truth.

"Adele Anderson, Administrator For The Tennessee Board Of Law Examiners, Said Friday That A Person Must Pass The Bar Exam, In Addition To Meeting Other Requirements, To Qualify As A Lawyer In Tennessee." (Michael Davis, "Handful Backs Ford's Claim Of Being Lawyer," Chattanooga Times Free Press, October 7, 2006)

"Nancy Slonim, Director Of Policy Communication For The American Bar Association, Said Lawyer Licensing Is Handled At The State Level. 'Typically, Graduating From Law School Does Not Make You A Lawyer, It Makes You A Law School Graduate,' Said Ms. Slonim . . . ." (Michael Davis, "Handful Backs Ford's Claim Of Being Lawyer," Chattanooga Times Free Press, October 7, 2006)

www.gopsenators.com

41 posted on 10/25/2006 7:39:14 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Fairview
Good morning.
"...You're a lawyer if you graduate from law school."

No, you aren't. Passing the bar is something entirely different and very hard, as several people I know have found out.

My attorney never went to law school. She didn't even go to college. She worked for some years as a legal secretary, challenged required courses, and passed the bar exam on her first try.

Michael Frazier
42 posted on 10/25/2006 7:42:42 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: NCLaw441
I think passing the bar and getting the license qualifies someone to self identify as a lawyer, even if they don't practice. He didn't pass the bar and get his license, so he doesn't even meet that qualification.
43 posted on 10/25/2006 7:49:32 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: popdonnelly

Exactly.


44 posted on 10/25/2006 8:41:12 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: brazzaville

Wow, I'm impressed with your attorney. She must be an extraordinary woman. I know a lot of very bright people who spend thousands on bar-exam prep courses and still don't pass it the first time. She has my admiration.


45 posted on 10/25/2006 8:45:42 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: Fairview
Good morning.
"She must be an extraordinary woman."

She is. Thanks on her behalf. She is a fine attorney and a good person.

Michael Frazier
46 posted on 10/25/2006 8:51:03 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: teddyballgame

You sure he wasn't saying 'liar'?


47 posted on 10/25/2006 8:52:55 AM PDT by tje
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To: jim macomber
He's never worked in the private sector, and he has never practiced law. He does make laws and that to his demented mind gives him the right to say he's a lawyer.

JOHN SEMMENS: Semi-News http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm “Lawyer” Controversy Plagues Ford Campaign

In his campaign for the U.S. Senate, Rep. Harold Ford Jr. (D-Tenn) is reported to have falsely claimed to be a lawyer. Ford was awarded a law degree by the University of Michigan Law School in 1996. Ford took the Tennessee bar exam in February 1997 but failed.

The allegation that Ford falsely claimed to be a lawyer stems from the following quote that appeared in the newspaper: “I told Senator (Lamar) Alexander, I said, ‘I won’t hold it against you if I’m elected, and there’s two lawyers in the delegation who try their hardest to work through the issues.”

Ford contends that the reporter misunderstood what he had said. “The word I used was ‘lawer’—you know, a person who makes laws, which is what I do in congress,” Ford said.

48 posted on 10/25/2006 9:56:55 AM PDT by GailA (Proud to admit I'm a quilt-a-holic.)
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To: GailA
Good morning.
“The word I used was ‘lawer’—you know, a person who makes laws, which is what I do in congress,”

Sheesh. Is that clintonesque or what?

Michael Frazier
49 posted on 10/25/2006 10:33:00 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Fairview
GARBAGE! I'm a lawyer and in 30 plus years of practice I never saw anybody legitimately and legally represent himself or herself as a lawyer who was not licensed to practice in a single state. You get to call yourself a lawyer ONLY after you've been licensed to practice in at least one jurisdiction. In all cases you have to pass a character fitness exam; you usually have to pass a bar exam, but that's waived, at least in Wisconsin, for people who graduate from in-state law schools.
50 posted on 10/25/2006 1:54:04 PM PDT by libstripper (!!)
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