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A Return to Triangulation (libertarion vs social right)
National Review Online ^ | 10/25/06 | David Boaz & David Kirby

Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish

As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.

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The Repub party needs to go back to it's roots of limited government and personal responsabilty.

Leave nanny statism to the dims.

1 posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:48 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish

Amen, brother. Amen....


2 posted on 10/25/2006 11:11:38 AM PDT by seeker_two
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To: Blackirish
According to our research, about 15 percent of American voters hold libertarian views—about the same share of the electorate as the “religious right,”

You wouldn't know that from Free Republic where the fundies have purged so many conservative-libertarians in their attempts to "purify" the party.

3 posted on 10/25/2006 11:15:40 AM PDT by Dracian
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You wouldn't know that from Free Republic where the fundies have purged so many conservative-libertarians in their attempts to "purify" the party.

I'm a 'social liberal, political conservative'.

I've argued with many a social conservative here on FR, but I've never felt 'purged' from FR.

It doesn't have to be an 'us v. them' kind of thing.

4 posted on 10/25/2006 11:18:40 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dracian

Maybe because the "conservative-libertarians" go elsewhere by themselves to whine and bitch about a nonexistent theocracy. You can't blame social conservatives for big government conservatism.


5 posted on 10/25/2006 11:20:31 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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"You wouldn't know that from Free Republic where the fundies have purged so many conservative-libertarians in their attempts to "purify" the party.
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Aren't you a little new here to be making broad statements like that one?


6 posted on 10/25/2006 11:21:14 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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I've never felt 'purged'

I didn't say "felt." I meant actually physically banned from posting. Of course you don't hear about bannies complaining -- because they can't. Not here at least.

8 posted on 10/25/2006 11:22:09 AM PDT by Dracian
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To: Blackirish

This article is stupid on many levels. Just one example-why is a libertarian complaining about the refusal to give a government subsidy for research on embryonic stem cells?


9 posted on 10/25/2006 11:23:12 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: Blackirish

Spell check is your friend.


10 posted on 10/25/2006 11:24:12 AM PDT by Protagoras (We are not free because we are great, we are great because we are free.)
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To: Blackirish

If "libertarian" means it's a-okay to tear babies limb from limb by abortion, and that man marrying man equals many marrying woman, please count me out!


11 posted on 10/25/2006 11:24:40 AM PDT by guitarist
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I've argued with many a social conservative here on FR, but I've never felt 'purged' from FR.

I have a feeling we will be if you come back to FR in about 5 years, but maybe that's just pessimism.

12 posted on 10/25/2006 11:26:22 AM PDT by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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I am a libertarian conservative, and have never been purged or felt unwelcome in any way at FR. But then, I regard other FReepers as worthy of respect despite the differences we may have on the issues. Gentle persuasion, not conflict, is my approach.


13 posted on 10/25/2006 11:29:25 AM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: bahblahbah
You can't blame social conservatives for big government conservatism.


No? When you support changing the constitution to promote a social agenda don't be surprised when personal responsibility gets stiff-armed for the bigger, heavy hand of government.
14 posted on 10/25/2006 11:32:41 AM PDT by Blackirish
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The weird thing is, the social conservatives are less nanny statists than the so-called "moderates" who always vote for all the social programs that are offered to fix the problems created by a lack of moral values.

And judicial branch of the government ordered moral indifference and unborn child murder is hardly less government. Personal responsiblity has long been dead. No one has to fund their own retirement, educate their own children, pay for the research on or drugs for their sexually-promiscuously acquired venereal diseases, and on and on. Hostility to religion and any kind of moral social structure -- like a nature based, reality based, traditionally based definition of marriage -- has left no one but the government responsible for the disasters people make of their lives. The more responsible you are, the more baggage you have to pick up and carry for the irresponsible.

America gave up on freedom a long time ago.

15 posted on 10/25/2006 11:35:25 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: guitarist

Most libertarians use natural law as the basis for their political philosophy. Many would oppose abortion for the same reason they oppose the death penalty. They do not believe that the state should ever have the power to take human life. And most libertarians would say that marriage is not a matter for the government to "license" one way or the other. So libertarians are not so different from many religious fundamentalists on these two issues.


16 posted on 10/25/2006 11:36:47 AM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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You wouldn't know that from Free Republic where the fundies have purged so many conservative-libertarians in their attempts to "purify" the party.

Why do I never get these memos?

17 posted on 10/25/2006 11:38:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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LOL     **snort**
18 posted on 10/25/2006 11:39:00 AM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: Blackirish

Both parties are involved in pushing America into hell, both financially and socially. It's only a matter of how fast. Repubs just go a little slower than Dems.

One World Goverment is the goal and America must be destroyed to achieve that end.


19 posted on 10/25/2006 11:41:54 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Admin Moderator

It's a conspiracy I tells ya!



:0)


20 posted on 10/25/2006 11:43:54 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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