As I recall, it took an invasion of over 20 Soviet-equipped armored/infantry divisions to defeat South Vietnam.
I would love to hear from soliders and folks who are or were in Iraq. My opinion is that as bloody as things are progress is being made.
BS. From the beginning, the Left has acted like Brer Rabbit "Oh! Goodness! I sure hope this doesn't turn into another Vietnam!" Meanwhile, they have consistently sabotaged the war efforts through the media and political efforts at home and abroad.
If the Left succeeds, and if the US retreats in shame, the Left will be the quickest to say "See! We told you it was another Vietnam!".
It's exactly what they've wanted from the beginning. We need to stay the course, win the war, secure the Middle East, and break the back of the Left. It's only Vietnam if we allow it to be Vietnam. The enemy completely lacks the ability to turn this into Vietnam. Only Democrats can do that.
I keep hearing from the liberals that Iraq has been the greatest recruiting tool al Queda ever had. What do they think would happen if we pull out and run like cowards?
Handing the jihadis a victory there would truly be the worst thing we could dream of.
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It is like Vietnam only in the sense that some people are buying into the MSM's contention that we are losing.
In reality, the situation in Iraq, while far from ideal is also far from a disaster. Our casualty rates are lower than those in any previous war, including the one most analogous to this one: the Phillipine Insurgency of a century ago.
The chaos is Iraq is containable, and it draws Islamowaccos that would otherwise be attacking in the U.S. like crap draws flies. The main problem we have is the news media with its "all disaster all the time" meme. They were wrong about what the US was doing in the Gulf War. They were wrong about what we did in the Iraq War. They are still lying today, with the intention of costing us our victory in Iraq because they dislike our President.
Frankly, if we kicked them all out of Iraq we would be better served.
"I think history shows that the United States and South Vietnam might have prevailed against the North..."
does this make it into the high school history books?
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BELIEVE it..or ELSE..!!!!
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This whole thing comes down to the general opinion of the American people and who controls their.
Wu Cheng'en said in the mid 1500s, "If you think you can or can't, you are right."
If we think we will lose in Iraq then we will.
If we think it is winnable, it is.
I personally think it is winnable, but it may take as long or longer than the cold war did.
"I think history shows that the United States and South Vietnam might have prevailed against the North but for the flagging will of the American people and opposition from the media and Congress."
Of course. April 1975 was a conventional big iron battle and one in which we (and the South Vietnamese) would have kicked General Giap's butt.... once again.
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"Bush and Rumsfeld will be blamed..." Mort says this and he's right. But Bush never behaved like LBJ, adjusting tactics to the latest public opinion polls. But once again, the American Mainstream Media and weasels in Congress will have undermined the will needed to prosecute the war on terror. And the fact that "Bush and Rumsfeld will be blamed" will be justification for those Dem "leaders" and the snivelling weasels in the media.
What Mort doesn't include in this piece is that it took Ronald Reagan's 8 years in the presidency to turn-around and re-assert the defense posture to win the Cold War. And that required huge budget deficits and some tough times in the economy (at least in the early years). I really wonder if America will be saved by some future visionary leader reasserting those core American values and determination. Makes me wonder.
Interesting thread, thanks.
The only thing Iraq has in common with Vietnam is that both wars were easily winnable, but the leftist press decided to jump over to the enemy side and undermine the war effort.
They look back on the Vietnam peace marches, and on Watergate, and see the greatest victories the leftist press has ever won against their country's government. Those were the glory days, when they brought down LBJ and Nixon and forced us to abandon our allies in Vietnam.
We look back, of course, and see something very different. Treason, a war lost that could have been won, and millions of innocent victims killed and oppressed in Southeast Asia because of the delusions of hippy leftists.
The left controlled all the media back then, with very few exceptions. Now they have some competition, and we have to fight back by spreading the truth they try to cover up.
Think of that movie, "The Killing Fields." The point is that the reporter is the good guy and Nixon is the bad guy. The people who made that movie were so delusional they didn't even realize that that reporter is the man who BETRAYED his Vietnamese assistant whom he pretends to love, and that he BETRAYED all the victims of Pol Pot who were slaughtered because of HIS OWN treason and lies, the lies of the people who made that movie and tried to justify themselves.