Here we go again.
Regards, Ivan
Posted on 10/26/2006 1:39:29 PM PDT by MadIvan
Armed youths today hijacked and burned a bus in Paris on the eve of the anniversary of the riots which tore through France last year.
Around ten hooded men, five of them carrying handguns, put a weapon to the head of the driver and forced him and his passengers off a bus heading to the eastern suburb of Montreuil in the early hours of the morning.
The gang then drove off in the vehicle before setting it alight in the second incident of its kind in Paris within a few hours.
In the other attack in the suburb of Nanterre around ten passengers scrambled to safety after a bus was boarded by a group of six youths who sprayed it with flammable liquid before starting a fire.
French Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said the vandals were guilty of "attempted murder".
Drivers on the Montreuil line went on strike to protest against the attack while the Essonne local public transport network, TICE, said it was suspending all night time bus services on 17 routes because of "a series of "minor incidents".
As the first bus was being attacked youths threw stones at passing vehicles at Grigny, in the south of the capital, as well as police cars that came to the scene while another group stoned police and firefighters who came to put out a burning car in the nearby town of Corbeil-Essonnes.
The flare-ups are raising fears of renewed violence on the same scale as last year's protests when youths burned more than 10,000 cars and damaged 300 buildings with Molotov cocktails in three weeks of rioting.
A security services report leaked to a French newspaper earlier this week warned that the conditions that sparked last year's riots were still in place.
Tensions rose last year after Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy was pelted with stones and bottles as he visited the rundown Paris suburb of Argenteuil. He later stated it and other poverty stricken areas should be "cleaned with a power hose" describing violent youths as "gangrene" and "rabble".
Two days later, on October 27, teenagers Zyed Benna and Bouna Traore were fatally electrocuted after climbing into an electrical sub-station in the Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois as they apparently tried to hide from police sparing riots in the areas African and Arab communities which saw 15 vehicles destroyed.
Four days later the rioting spilled out into other areas of Paris after a tear gas grenade went off at a mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois and the following night the police station in Aulnay-sous-Bois was ransacked with 177 vehicles burned.
Rioting then spread to Dijon, Grigny, Stains, Seine-Saint-Denis, Amiens, Lyon, Toulouse and St Etienne.
In an attempt to defuse the growing concerns of a repeat, Dominique de Villepin, the French Prime Minister was today due to speak on the problems of discrimination and joblessness in deprived neighbourhoods in the Paris suburb of Cergy-Pontoise during his monthly press conference.
Charles Bremner of The Times in Paris says France is expecting violence over the coming days.
He said: "The apparent use of handguns in the latest bus incident, whether or not they were real, is a new development.
"Things have not got any better since the riots last year for people on these estates.
"If anything there is a greater feeling of lawlessness."
Here we go again.
Regards, Ivan
Ping!
I wonder if they were Catholics?...................
"Fears of repeat Paris riots as buses burn"
Huh? That's like saying "fears of war as bombs fall".
Regards, Ivan
IBRYMB!!!!
Yikes. I was over there just last week, in Saint-Denis.
IBIPB!!! (In Before 'Is Paris Burning'?)
As the Hajib Clad Girl Guides ululate 'Tires, burning, tires burning'
Nero at least fiddled.
Ah, where the weak are killed (Halal) and eaten.
Regards, Ivan
They may not realize it, but they could help the election. In which case, it would be through Carl Rove's sinister manipulation.
Lando 
Tell the rioters that this year riots won't be tolerated and rioters will be shot. Let the riots build up and then march in, set up a few machine gun banks and start shooting.
There won't be any riots after that! There won't be any criminals left to riot!
Did they run out of cars to torch?
How long before it will be blamed on the jjjjjjjooooooosssssss
Regards, Ivan
Heh. My wife had the odd experience of having a whole SWAT team run through the hotel restaurant where she was having breakfast. Apparently there was an armed robbery with hostages at the McDonald's nearby.
After a 4-hour standoff they rushed the McDonalds... to find it empty. The robbers had left earlier with the hostages they'd release.
Guess they don't have that thing in Europe like we have, called "the rule of law".
In the other attack in the suburb of Nanterre around ten passengers scrambled to safety after a bus was boarded by a group of six youths who sprayed it with flammable liquid before starting a fire.
You know, this is shoot-to-kill time. No matter if it's muzzies doing it or anybody else.
Buses are demonic crusader devices designed to force men and unrelated women to share the same room, albeit on wheels.
Please notice the muslim world gets by very well without buses or space-ships or other satanic infidel bric-a-brac!
Buses are anathema! Fatwa upon them!
But keep those welfare checks a-rolling, or we'll set the trains on fire! Submit or die!
And multiculturalism showed such promise...
I know one of the participants (friends of the family) - she said the press did not cover the event.
Regards, Ivan
Bus: the RATP should again avoid sensitive districts
PARIS (AP) - François Saglier, director of the department drunk with the RATP, announced Thursday that the public company again considered deviations of routes in the sensitive districts, following a wave of attacks of bus these last days.
The trade unions, on their side, ask the direction to let the drivers exert their "right of withdrawal", a measurement envisaged by the fair labor standards act and which makes it possible to any employee to cease his activity in the event of "imminent danger".
"It is a new situation", entrusted Mr. Saglier at the time of a press conference. "last year, (...) in fact the buses were aimed in first" and those of lately occurred "without precursory sign and not inevitably in the districts considered as difficult".
Whereas the direction and the trade unions met in the afternoon to study safety measures to be taken and deviations of routes, the Minister of Interior Department Nicolas Sarkozy let know that it would receive with 21h the whole of the public and deprived haulage companies (the RATP, the SNCF, Keolis, Veolia, Transdev, Union of the public conveyors)"concerned with the recent aggressions which took place these last days".
Mr. Saglier explained that, throughout the year, the RATP punctually sets up deviations to avoid the sensitive districts, "while waiting for that the situation is calmed". "Normally, the service must be ensured" on the lines where the buses were attacked, it however added.
Line 258 (Nanterre) was deviated Wednesday evening after the attack and circulation was again normal Thursday morning, according to RATP'S. On line 122 (Montreuil), the drivers ceased the service under the blow of the emotion because the incident was "particularly violent".
According to Mr. Saglier, there is among the machinists of "concern and at the same time a great smell of the responsibilities". In his opinion, the drivers will resume work to ensure the public utility of transport. As it is usual, "we will take measurements which will be necessary to avoid the sensitive districts".
Side of the trade unions, one claims the application of the "right of withdrawal" for the drivers. "the CHSCT (Committee of hygiene, safety and the working conditions) deposits this day a procedure of serious and imminent danger", thus indicated Thursday to Associated Press Didier Hurtebize, one of the spokesman of CGT the RATP.
"We are for the continuation of the public utility and we do not want that one deprives people of bus. But if the agents feel in danger, we want that they can exert their right of withdrawal ", it added.
It specified that until now, this right of withdrawal was difficult to apply, although envisaged by the fair labor standards act. "Except in very serious cases, each time that an agent wanted to apply it, we found ourselves with procedures for unjustified absence", underlined Mr. Hurtebize.
The other trade unions are over the same wavelength. "the right of withdrawal must be able to apply as soon as one has a tended situation", the CFDT-RATP estimates thus.
Wednesday, it is the general Trade union of the police force-FO (SGP-FO) which claimed the possibility of exerting this right for the police officers vis-a-vis to the situation tended in the suburbs, when their conditions of intervention appear too perilous. ----------------------------------------------------------
When you are faced with Muslim Extremists rioting - best thing for the police to do is avoid the areas so as not to disturb the sensitive people in the sensitive areas because its soooo sensitive. UGH!
Regards, Ivan
I wasn't aware the rioting ever stopped. IIRC, cars are burnt daily, there are no-go areas for police, and daily running skirmishes.
Isn't this just an increase in the daily muzzie mayhem?
Ramadan just ended,
now it's time to cut loose!
thanks for the information. needless to say I had no idea.
Thank you for sharing that...
RE: French Jews being staunch allies. . .
I used to date one, and he was the most pro-American/Allies guy I've ever known. As far as I know, he is now in Afghanistan (French Army).
Shocked me to know there were any cool French people left! (Though I have met some nice ones here on FR!)
Louis Farrakhan would disagree; space ships are integral to his world.
Could they have been...Baptists?
The Jewish community in France is under pressure and should get our support.
Regards, Ivan
Not that I disagree, but...
Dude...we're talking about the French.
Get the French out of France NOW!
The jewish community in France is most likely to depart for Israel. There seems to be no effort to control the rioters and the jewish community is afraid, rightly so.
The conditions are called Muslims. - tom
"And multiculturalism showed such promise..."
Just say, "Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength."
Repeat, until brain is numb.
One of the things I despise about the French system as it stands: there are very rigid barriers of class. There is an elite in France which attends the Ecole Nationale d'Administration, and forms the upper echelons of government and business. This elite is very hard to get into. Hard work alone doesn't ensure one gets into it. There are very few Jews in this elite. If you're a middle class Frenchman, it's almost impossible to get into. It is a class that jealously preserves and guards its privileges.
Britain and America are much more meritocratic - people who work hard succeed and rise. Because I'm middle class doesn't mean I can't become very rich in the future. The feudalism of the French system is an offense to decency.
Regards, Ivan
Seems other than some fabulous french cooking the french have nothing good going for them. America makes better wines, too!!!
Regards, Ivan
Riots and strikes are as predictable as season change in France...the French should simply put them on their calendar...along with Bastille day.
Sadly, it's a regular occurrence for the French.
lots of us can't stand the French, but they dont deserve to be held hostage in their own country AGAIN...
We often drink Korbel champagne. I'll have to look and see the country of origin. If it's french, we'll change!
What percentage of the French military is of "immigrant extraction"? Could the French government even call out the troops without cohesion falling apart?
Sorry, that is a mis-diagnosis of the situation.
The problem is polticial correctness....the type desired by Democrats in this country.
It is political correctness that lead to 45% of those under 25 in Paris are Muslim.
It is political correctness that lead authorities to rarely enforce the law when faced with a facial issue.
It is politcal correctness that will render Western Europe to become subjugated by its Mislim population without a shot being fired.
It is political correctness that does not teach the lessons of freedom and democracy to new immigrants.
Sorry, it doesn't matter if they are Muslims or Hispanics, political correctness is the culprit, not Muslim fundamentalism.
Korbel is made in California.
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