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General CCW application question

Posted on 10/26/2006 5:59:16 PM PDT by Apogee

Here is a question relating to CCW applications: For those states that require fingerprinting, are sets taken and compared to a database then discarded, or are they added to a database?
Local leo's have not been able to answer this, saying htey really weren't sure. I have heard both, but have not found a definitive answer, and would appreciate links to official sources.
Of course, the question of whether records are destroyed just because it is the law is another one altogether...
Thank you,


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1 posted on 10/26/2006 5:59:16 PM PDT by Apogee
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I would guess that they would add them to a database.


2 posted on 10/26/2006 6:01:35 PM PDT by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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Here in CA, I had to turn in my application and give initial fingerprints via blotter. Later in the process, I assume after I passed some initial scrutiny, I had to return and give them digital fingerprints. Trust me, CA will keep these forever. When they finally issued my permit, I had to give a thumbprint that is on my actual permit.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 6:04:33 PM PDT by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: Apogee

now why would THEY discard anything ?


4 posted on 10/26/2006 6:04:39 PM PDT by catroina54
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--in Nevada, they go in a state database--


5 posted on 10/26/2006 6:05:26 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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are they added to a database?

They are cross checked against existing data then assuming you are not on file, they gratefully add you to the system...........

Welcome to the machine.....

6 posted on 10/26/2006 6:09:28 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I was just thirteen, you might say I was a musical proverbial knee-high...)
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This is the main part of CCW law that I think is repulsive. I did it but with great regret.


7 posted on 10/26/2006 6:09:44 PM PDT by therut
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To: Apogee

Poke around here http://www.packing.org/state/ long enough and I'm sure you'll find some answers. No prints required here in MN, so I'm no help on this.


8 posted on 10/26/2006 6:09:49 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot back.)
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I think they keep all records on handguns, including prints.
9 posted on 10/26/2006 6:11:16 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Getting the FReepers to bring down the Dixie Chix is hard work......G.W. Bush)
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Here in CT they are retained so they can be properly misfiled.


10 posted on 10/26/2006 6:16:44 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com in NY you get three sets taken... one for the local cops, one goes to the StatePolice and the third goes to the FBI.

like the man said... welcome to the machine!

11 posted on 10/26/2006 6:31:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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Not sure, but I would bet they are kept.

I had to submit for a CCW. I guess that means no burglary or murder for me!


12 posted on 10/26/2006 6:35:51 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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Here in FL they file them. But I figure That I've got a bunch on file any ways via Military service, security clearances, DUI (sorry guys, in was in my young and stupid days), several background checks for jobs, etc.


13 posted on 10/26/2006 6:38:40 PM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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In Idaho and California the fingerprints are sent to the FBI to be catalogued and compared. It's a 90 day turnaround for the CCW in Idaho to allow the FBI to do that check. They are kept on file...not discarded.
14 posted on 10/26/2006 6:46:01 PM PDT by Myrddin
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In NC they are digitized and filed. What purpose are fingerprints if they are not on file. If a print shows up on a weapon, what is the reference if none exists? Sound pretty apparent and obvious to me.


15 posted on 10/26/2006 6:54:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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What purpose are fingerprints if they are not on file. If a print shows up on a weapon, what is the reference if none exists? Sound pretty apparent and obvious to me.

The purpose would be to ensure, before issuing the permit, that the applicant does not have a criminal record. Given that CCW carriers very seldom commit crimes, I don't think there'd be much likelihood of getting a useful cold match off a murder weapon.

16 posted on 10/26/2006 6:59:50 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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"In NC they are digitized and filed. What purpose are fingerprints if they are not on file. If a print shows up on a weapon, what is the reference if none exists? Sound pretty apparent and obvious to me."

About 10 percent of the states that issue permits do *not* require fingerprints. They do *not* have any more or less problems than states that require prints. Prints are just another expensive addition to the process that accomplishes no useful purpose. We should all work to eliminate the requirement for prints where it exists.


17 posted on 10/26/2006 7:03:31 PM PDT by riverrunner
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Kind of stupid, CCW holders have to be the most law-abiding group out there.

Wh don't they go out to the street corners and fingerprint gang-bangers?


18 posted on 10/26/2006 7:25:07 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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I'm surprised to hear that individual states might be running their own fingerprint database.

I't was my understanding that the FBI maintained a U.S. database and that individual states would submit prints for analysis.


19 posted on 10/26/2006 7:49:14 PM PDT by Jambe ( Save the Cows ! -- Eat a Vegan !!!)
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To: riverrunner

It does not bother me. I have nothing to hide. My picture is on file. My social security number is on file. Aren't eveyone in the military fingerprinted? I am not sure on that.


20 posted on 10/26/2006 7:56:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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