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Kosovo: Washington 'Nervous' Over Final Status Says Serb Official
ADN Kronos International ^ | October 26, 2006

Posted on 10/27/2006 3:52:21 AM PDT by kronos77

Belgrade, 26 Oct. (AKI) - The United States is showing signs of jitteriness over the status of the breakaway province of Kosovo, as the international community moves away from granting Kosovo the independence wanted by most of its overwhelmingly ethnic Albanian majority, the Serbian government coordinator for Kosovo, Sanda Raskovic Ivic, has said.

Raskovic Ivic was commenting on a "slip of tongue" by American envoy to Kosovo Frank Wiesner, who stated in the Kosovo capital Pristina on Tuesday that Washington wants the status issue resolved this year. "We will insist on independence – excuse me – we will insist on [determination of] the final status by the end of this year," Wiesner told journalists.

Wiesner's comments particularly irritated Belgrade - which opposes Kosovo's independence - by claiming the status of the province in which ethnic Albanians outnumber Serbs by 17 to one, was no longer a Serbian matter, but one for "Kosovo itself and the international community."

Kosovo has been under United Nations control since 1999, when NATO airstrikes drove Serb forces out of the province amid an ethnic cleansing campaign and gross human rights abuses. The United Security Council has hinted it wants to make a decision on Kosovo's status this year, but Belgrade's media speculated that Russia and China might use a veto in the UN Security Council to block Kosovo's independence. To pre-empt this, the US is now considering bypassing the UN, and leave it to each country to recognise Kosovo independence individually, according to media reports.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristianity; balkans; democracy; dhimmitraitor; freedom; ihoppy; kosovo; liberty; pancakeboy; selfdetermination; serbia; terror; toothlessdhimmi

1 posted on 10/27/2006 3:52:23 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...


2 posted on 10/27/2006 3:52:36 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
So then, when mexicans out number americans 17 to 1 in L.A. county will California have to grant them independence?
3 posted on 10/27/2006 4:18:13 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (Conservative and Republican are not synonymous.)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Raskovic Ivic was commenting on a "slip of tongue" by American envoy to Kosovo Frank Wiesner, who stated in the Kosovo capital Pristina on Tuesday that Washington wants the status issue resolved this year. "We will insist on independence – excuse me – we will insist on [determination of] the final status by the end of this year," Wiesner told journalists.

Dhimmi bump

4 posted on 10/27/2006 5:16:01 AM PDT by A. Pole (Milosevic: "And when they behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.")
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To: A. Pole

Wisner does not seem to be the sharpest tool in a drawer, having in mind his con artist experience with Enron and diplomatic carrer experience, not to mention family environment while growing up. He made that slip deliberatelly.


5 posted on 10/27/2006 6:08:09 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: A. Pole

The logic by which Kosovo would be granted independence, would also require that the predominantly Serb portions of Kosovo (and Bosnia too, for that matter) be absorbed into Serbia. They can't have it both ways, not logically.

But they are trying to have it both ways.


6 posted on 10/27/2006 9:28:11 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron
But they are trying to have it both ways.

Has anybody stripped the Sandzak and Presevo Valleys from Serbia?

No, because the Serbs haven't embarked upon an ethnic cleansing campaign there like they have in the places where they have lost territory.

The Serbs lost their mandate to govern Kosovo, and Kosovo is keeping its existing borders.

Its not as complicated or illogical as you're viewing it.

7 posted on 10/27/2006 12:14:21 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
No, because the Serbs haven't embarked upon an ethnic cleansing campaign there like they have in the places where they have lost territory.The Serbs lost their mandate to govern Kosovo, and Kosovo is keeping its existing borders.

Based on that logic, then Kosovo Albanians lost whatever "claim" (legitimate or illegitimate) they had to Kosovo in March 2004 when they went on an ethnic cleansing rampage against Serbs.

8 posted on 10/27/2006 2:34:55 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Were the K-Albanians ethnically cleansing the Serbs as part of a government directed pogrom, complete with police and army planning and involvement in criminal behavior?

No, they weren't.

The difference obviously escapes you.

9 posted on 10/27/2006 2:58:58 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; Bokababe
Were the K-Albanians ethnically cleansing the Serbs as part of a...criminal behavior?

Why yes, yes they were, starting most recently in the mid-1980's. It's good that even a Dhimmi can understand the truth (with a little editing of course)!

10 posted on 10/27/2006 4:08:31 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: A. Pole

OK, here I agree with you. Not only is Kosovo not a viable country (which would get annexed to Albania the day after so called "independence") but also, what is the point? This is not your father's Serbia. Today's Serbia should not be a problem for any legitimate resident of Kosovo.


11 posted on 10/27/2006 6:47:24 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Hoplite; Bokababe; joan; montyspython; DTA; getoffmylawn; ma bell; Beckwith; ...

"Were the K-Albanians ethnically cleansing the Serbs as part of a government directed pogrom, complete with police and army planning and involvement in criminal behavior? No, they weren't."

"B..S..." !!!!! Yes they were...Ramush was in charge of the Albanian Parmilitaries, mainly the "Black Eagles"..they murdered, intimidated, and cleaned out villages by murdering at least one or two, in one case an old couple in one village....thus the rest moved out the next few days. The government did direct these actions but not overtly. It was done covertly while attending functions at the American Consulate. It doesn't have to be complete, it was done covertly and all the while denying or downplaying it. You are not getting away with this one......

The KLA continued to cleanse the Serbs from 1999 to 30 October 2006 and will continue.......with direction and planning. It doesn't matter what conditions you set, cleansing is cleansing. Now, it was confirmed by investigators that there were no rape camps, ethnic cleansing, or genocide by Milosevic. His paramilitaries got out of hand, they did murder POW's, but the rest was fabricated. The Muslims murdered POW's, raped and murdered innocent Serbs, burned their houses.....and continued from Bosnia in the early 90's to Kosovo, to date, to include killing Serbs in Presevo valley trying to provoke the Serbs in Serbia and the Macedonians in Macedonia.....but it failed. These are the facts........

"Hoe"-lite, (clever use of a word, you think)..you have been lying to these posters since the early 2000's....it's amazing. Oh by the way....I was working on your little WWII need to know, and got distracted...with the following...interesting bit of trivia....

Relative to this posting.......since we are talking about interesting connections and links.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726346/posts?page=7#7

Apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.......


Check out what little bit of trivia I discovered after pouring over my files.........:)

Quote from a report:

Kosovo Wiping the Slate Clean for Some Dirty Work Ahead
by Christopher Deliso

balkanalysis.com February 1, 2006

“Another old hand from the Kosovo bombing, former NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana, will necessarily play a crucial role in his current incarnation as the EU's foreign policy chief. He has dispatched a senior adviser, Stefan Lehne, as the Euro-envoy. And the Americans are sending for their envoy one Frank Wisner, a former Pentagon official, ambassador to India (among other countries), and old Enron man with a reputation for driving a hard bargain, but no apparent connections to the Balkans. Last week this "seasoned diplomat," as Condoleezza Rice described him, said that the U.S. was "deeply committed to the negotiations that lie ahead and their rapid conclusion." We all know that there is only one conclusion that can be reached "rapidly": independence.”


“It looks like Wisner had a behind the scenes role in the Balkans for years. Scroll to: Holbrooke's Best Friend to be the US Special Envoy for Kosovo Status Talks:
Former US Ambassador turned businessman Frank Wisner is said to have been selected to become Washington 's envoy in the Kosovo status negotiations, the Belgrade media reported on a Reuters news item. The news agency commented that, through this appointment, the US are demonstrating the wish to give encouragement to the negotiations and get the job done in the right way. Wisner, who served in India, the Philippines, Egypt, and Zambia, is accused by his critics for having worked for the CIA all that time, and for having promoted the interests of the former powerful energy company Enron."


Enron-CIA scandal about that Dabhol plant when Wisner was US ambassador to India. The Power Elite: Enron and Frank Wisner: A Wisner staffer told InterPress Services that "if anybody asked the CIA to help promote US business in India, it was probably Frank." Greater Albania is a major US strategic aim to safeguard the route of the Albania-Macedonia-Bulgaria Oil pipeline [AMBO] and to ensure US regional hegemony. In January 1997, Edward Ferguson, "Director of Oil & Gas Development in Brown & Root, was appointed President & CEO of AMBO." Halliburton's Brown & Root also built Camp Bondsteel, which is "strategically placed near the Kosovo-Macedonia border, giving it easy access southwards. So easy, in fact, that the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army] used it for their subsequent incursions into Macedonia - unhindered." The CIA's William Walker & Carlyle Group's Frank Carlucci are on the board of advisors of the Alliance for a New Kosovo, which is doing the PR work for Kosovo "independence."




now we have this report:

"Frank Wisner, Jr. was a big catch for Enron Corporation. His lineage is
impeccable, since his father, Frank Wisner Sr., was a senior CIA official
(from 1947 until his suicide in 1965) who was involved in the overthrow
of Arbenz of Guatemala (1954) and Mossadeq of Iran (1953). Wisner Junior
was well-known in the CIA and he worked as Under Secretary of Defense for
Policy and Under Secretary of State for International Security Affairs;
his current boss, Kenneth Lay, Chief Executive Officer of Enron Corporation,
also worked for the Pentagon during the US war in Vietnam . With "economic
espionage" as a task for the CIA (see PD, 12 October 1997), there is little
doubt that Wisner used this instrument during his long-tenure as Ambassador
in Asian nations. A Wisner staffer told InterPress Services this year that
"ifanybody asked the CIA to help promote US business in India , it was
probably Frank".



Impeccable??????? who's kidding who......when we find this little gem...and something the msm
fails to mention about his father and just a little bit of a connection to "kosovo...like finishing what his father was involved in decades before....and greater Albania failed then.




The CIA and Greater Albania: The Origins of the US Role in the Balkans
By Carl K. Savich
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/057.shtml

"The US even sent aid and weapons to a Communist country. Following the 1948 split between Joseph Stalin and Josip Broz Tito, the Yugoslav government requested through CIA channels that the US provide arms to Yugoslavia , fearing an invasion by the USSR . Frank Lindsay, the Office of Policy Co-ordination (OPC) deputy to Frank Wisner, recalled: “Tito was the man for the West to back… We sent him five shiploads of weapons.”
The US and UK were also determined to keep the Communist guerrillas in Greece from taking power. Operation Valuable/Fiend was also a diversionary operation meant to deny bases for Greek Communist insurgents and to divert Soviet or Communist resources away from Greece .

Operation Valuable/Fiend

British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin approved the MI6 operation to overthrow the Hoxha regime in February, 1949. The chief of MI6, Stewart Menzies, was not enthusiastic about the paramilitary operation but saw it as a way to appease the former SOE “stinks and bangs people.” The Albanian regime change was a rollback operation meant to “detach” Albania , a “captive nation”, from the Soviet bloc. Strategically, the UK and US objective was to establish a strategic presence on the Balkan peninsula . The British wanted the US to finance the operation and to provide bases. Senior British intelligence officer William Hayter, who chaired the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC), came to Washington in March with a group of Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) members and Foreign Office staff that included Gladwyn Jebb, Earl Jellicoe, and Peter Dwyer of MI6 and a Balkans specialist. They met with Robert Joyce of the US State Department’s Policy and Planning Staff (PPS) and Frank Wisner, who was the head of the Office of Policy Co-ordination (OPC), which was administered by the CIA. Wisner had been an attorney who had represented the financial interests of wealthy Albanian refugees who had been members of the Nazi-fascist collaborative group, the Balli Kombetar. So there had also been a monetary connection between US intelligence and the former Nazi/fascist Albanian Balli Kombetar members.

The strategic goal was to establish a foothold on the Balkan peninsula . Before this could occur, the Soviet-backed Hoxha regime had to be overthrown. According to Wisner, the Albanian operation was to be “a clinical experiment to see whether larger rollback operations would be feasible elsewhere.” Amery revealed that the British planned to recruit Balli Kombetar insurgents in the regime change against the Hoxha government. He outlined his plans for the proposed operation to the military commander of the Balli Kombetar, Abas Ermenji.
On May 20, 1949, Harold Perkins, the director of the Special Operations Branch, Neil McLean and Ermenji flew to Rome to meet with Midhat Frasheri, the wartime leader and founder of the Nazi/fascist Balli Kombetar, to discuss the operation. Frasheri was supportive of the operation. Amery believed that “clandestine operations directed at Hoxha would lead to a major uprising” the success of which would “depend on the million odd Albanians living in the Yugoslav Kosovo region.” So Kosovo was always crucial to the planners and organizers of Operation Valuable/Fiend.

By 1952, the CIA had taken over all the intelligence operations of the British in the Balkans. On July 23, 1951, the US air dropped 12 commandos in Albania . Six were killed immediately, four were surrounded and burned to death in a house, and two were captured. The operation was a complete disaster. Abas Ermenji did not want to witness any more of his Balli Kombetar followers to take “another tumble through the meat grinder” and so discouraged any more missions. Wisner, nevertheless, sought to continue the pixie incursions, having the support of CIA Deputy Director Allen Dulles. The CIA airdropped Hamit Matjani, the Tiger, in 1952, who was killed during this operation, his 16th mission. Dulles stated: “At least we’re getting the experience we need for the next war.”

Up to 200 agents would be killed during the operation with an estimated additional several thousand Albanian civilians killed in reprisal. Abas Ermenji stated: “Our ‘allies’ wanted to make use of Albania as a guinea-pig, without caring about the human losses, for an absurd enterprise that was condemned to failure.” Halil Nerguti stated: “We were used as an experiment. We were a small part of a big game, pawns that could be sacrificed.” There is no question that the CIA and MI6 used the operation as a small-scale exercise in regime change. The stakes were small. Failure would not be noticed. John H. Richardson, the CIA Director of the South-East Division, terminated Operation Fiend and by 1954 the Company 400 was disbanded and the training facilities in Heidelberg , Germany shut down, as well as the CIA base on the Greek island. The remaining Albanians were resettled in the US , UK , and the Commonwealth countries.


13 posted on 10/30/2006 1:21:13 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
No, you've got it all wrong! It's quite simple really: Serbs bad, bad, bad! No matter what, Serbs bad! Questions about the official version of the Balkan wars? Serbs bad! Facts that might cause a logical person to possibly reconsider some of his points? No, Serbs bad! Serb victims of ethnic violence? They asked for it! And if you express any doubts, you are an evil, Milosevic-serving- Serbo-crypto-fascist-apologist for genocide. Got it?
14 posted on 10/30/2006 1:35:13 AM PST by drew
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:)) You are wrong, wrong wrong.....there were no 100,000 Albanians massacred...there wasn't 10,000 massacred, there weren't 8,000 Muslims massacred in Bosnia, there were no rape camps...all..how did you say.... LIES LIES LIES LIES.....my disinfo friend. Serbs did some bad things, yes, so did the Muhjahdeen that we took out of Afghanistan and dropped in Bosnia to help with the Jihad and headchopping...they raped, murdered Serbs and Muslims....

They were asking for it.....and they got it. They did kill about 3,000 Muslims that were the forerunner of Al Queda, the rest, headed to Croatia, Kosovo and other locations...confirmed that the CIA had diverted a portion of the Jihaders to Bosnia.....to continue an operation we started in 1948...failed first time.....

Serbs did not ask for it.......it was delivered to them....they just got stupid in the beginning and fell into the trap. The paramilitaries did kill POW's....Who arrested Milosevic...? duh!!!!

You have been brainwashed.....I was there from 1999 to 2004, and had many American Capt's and Majors come into my office disillusioned with the situation and our policies....could'nt wait to leave because of our screwed up one sided BS............

Now, you got it!!!!!!, because, I will not stop throwing out the facts and the more you disinfo types come on the more it allows me to publish more truth. So, keep it coming, I want more, Sport. You are a lying, one sided, Islamic jihade supporter, facist....GOT IT.............

now, your next ranting better have facts supporting why the Serbs are bad....and it should also have the facts about the Mafia owned Kosovo, and some indication of what Operation Storm was all about........

I will express doubts as WHO ARE YOU, to pronounce the truth as evil. If you think the truth is evil then you are one of those "Evil Doers" and apparently "The Deciderette"...lololol...:)))))


15 posted on 10/30/2006 2:58:50 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: drew

"No matter what, Serbs bad!"

"Facts that might cause a logical person to possibly reconsider some of his points? No, Serbs bad! Serb victims of ethnic violence?"

***** "NO MATTER WHAT"? What are you smoking? Man, you had better do what your hero did, and not inhale it this time. You have been sucking that joy juice just a little too long....

Facts......presented are NO? I see, never mind the facts, right? Just do what you say or have been brainwashed to say....?? BS, I don't think so. Are you looking in the mirror at night? Talking to yourself? Taking meds? Do you really read what you are writing? I sure hope you are not a judge or a policeman or something along those lines. You might be a lawyer or a politician, but, not in law enforcement.......:)))) lolol Okay, let's keep this going. I'm Anxiously awaiting your next post and I'll continue to give you more facts, starting with Bosnia, then we'll work our little old way down to Kosovo. First I've got to talk about how we set up pearl harbor and then you're next..............Understand, I am relentless and will continue to post for as long as you would like. Next time, send me some facts, examples, and retorts that are factually backed up, or, refute my "facts" and re-direct me. Either way, it's a win win. It's always a win when you make a mistake, someone points it out, and then you learn something....that's a win, also.

We have a great country, and a great system...it's just been a little diverted....but will be put back on path shortly. :)


17 posted on 10/30/2006 4:48:42 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
Remember this?

Apparently not.

18 posted on 10/30/2006 6:50:28 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

:)) I don't even have to click the link, and I know what it is.....you might say I got just a little bit distracted....this weekend. Back to you shortly......

Got reports to get out today.......


19 posted on 10/30/2006 7:04:05 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Hoplite; montyspython; DTA; tgambill; FormerLib; Honorary Serb; Bokababe
The current goon squad running the "kosovo govt" are KLA members thereby rendering your statement false. The KLA ran the Serbs and the rest of the non-kla types out of Kosovo. The KLA leaders are now "running" Kosovo in Pristine.

Sorry, cherry, but go back to being a CARNG REMF.

So, yes, you can say it is a "govt pogrom" with a set goal/agenda. The KPC is their police enforcement unit and covertly provide logistical aid/support and physical support with the "Kosova" govt pogrom.

20 posted on 10/30/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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To: Bokababe

Bokababe..I have to disagree with you about the campaign in March 2004...

The cleasning campaign started in October 1999....and has continued until 30 October 2006 without breaking stride even once....and plans are to get worse in a short while.


21 posted on 10/30/2006 7:49:50 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: drew
Are you serious or did you forget the sarcasm tag?
22 posted on 10/30/2006 8:03:34 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: kronos77

Washington Nervious = State Department Nervious.


The left wing hacks at the State Department created this mess. They denied the christians the right to defend themselves while the moslems were allowed unfettered arms to overrun the area and burn the churches.

It is a nightmare of monumental proportions and a shape of things to come thanks to the state department.

The only time ANY international success exists is when the state department is cut out of the loop.

(remember the albright, three amigos speaking tour to universities to promote their balkans concepts?)

That area only speaks one language, the language of the bullet.


23 posted on 10/30/2006 8:03:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tgambill
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
Happens a lot here (except for a couple of true believers that are easy to spot).
24 posted on 10/30/2006 8:08:45 AM PST by norton
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To: All
IF YOU WANT TO SEE DOCUMENTATION OF MOSLEMS IN THE ACTUAL ACT OF TEARING DOWN CHURCHES GOTO

http://www.savekosovo.org

It has pictures of moslems in the act of attacking churches just because they are churches. It also has links to NON-serbian, non-balkan papers which identify the absolute mess left by the Clintons.

25 posted on 10/30/2006 8:11:00 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: norton

:)) I guess if that is so, he got my goat for sure..hook, line and sinker


26 posted on 10/30/2006 1:47:03 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

I doubt any fact, any truth can reach such a mind…no matter how masterfully delivered…to the extent that it helps you to organize your information and delivery…that should be your objective…I don't like it, but am comming to accept that neither you, nor anyone else, will be able to re-claim a mind that far gone, but that was one outstanding attempt if I do say so myself!

I find myself constantly falling back on one of my favorite quotes…

The things that will destroy us are: politics
without principle; pleasure without conscience;
wealth without work; knowledge without character;
business without morality; science without
humanity; and worship without sacrifice.
- Mahatma Gandhi


27 posted on 10/31/2006 9:18:32 AM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: dgallo51

We got to keep trying......right up to WWIII.....as off the wall as it sounds.


28 posted on 11/01/2006 1:04:11 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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