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Shame on Michael J. Fox
Orlando Snetinel ^ | oct 27, 2006 | Gary Loftis

Posted on 10/27/2006 8:09:48 AM PDT by Notwithstanding

If you haven't seen or heard the ad, actor Michael J. Fox apparently manipulated his Parkinson's medication so he could do a pro-stem-cell-research ad for a Missouri Democratic candidate, demonstrating what a Parkinson's patient without treatment looks like. In the ad, Fox implies that stem-cell research is the only hope for "millions of Americans -- Americans like me."

As a Parkinson's patient myself, I know that claim to be hogwash.

There are drug and non-drug therapies that ameliorate Parkinsonism for millions of patients. There apparently is even one that allows Fox to work as an actor -- without the physical effects he displayed on the ad.

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1 posted on 10/27/2006 8:09:49 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

What's with all the excerpts?? Has the list grown that much?


2 posted on 10/27/2006 8:11:26 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Notwithstanding
My question for Fox is this:

"If the Canadian Government healthcare system is so great, why did you decide to become a US Citizen?"

3 posted on 10/27/2006 8:11:50 AM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: DCPatriot
Amendment 2 video

Missourians Against Human Cloning

Benefits of Stem Cells to Human Patients

Adult Stem Cells v. Embryonic Stem Cells
Download This List
Peer-Reviewed References (not a complete listing, sample references)

Adult Stem Cells

Embryonic Stem Cells

    Cancers:

  1. Brain Cancer
  2. Retinoblastoma
  3. Ovarian Cancer
  4. Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma
  5. Testicular Cancer
  6. Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma
  7. Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma
  8. Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
  9. Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia
  10. Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
  11. Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
  12. Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia
  13. Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia
  14. Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy
  15. Multiple Myeloma
  16. Myelodysplasia
  17. Breast Cancer
  18. Neuroblastoma
  19. Renal Cell Carcinoma
  20. Various Solid Tumors
  21. Soft Tissue Sarcoma
  22. Ewing’s Sarcoma
  23. Waldenstrom’s macroglobulinemia
  24. Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis
  25. POEMS syndrome
  26. Myelofibrosis

    Auto-Immune Diseases

  27. Systemic Lupus
  28. Sjogren’s Syndrome
  29. Myasthenia
  30. Autoimmune Cytopenia
  31. Scleromyxedema
  32. Scleroderma
  33. Crohn’s Disease
  34. Behcet’s Disease
  35. Rheumatoid Arthritis
  36. Juvenile Arthritis
  37. Multiple Sclerosis
  38. Polychondritis
  39. Systemic Vasculitis
  40. Alopecia Universalis
  41. Buerger’s Disease

    Cardiovascular

  42. Acute Heart Damage
  43. Chronic Coronary Artery Disease

    Ocular

  44. Corneal regeneration

    Immunodeficiencies

  45. Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome
  46. X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome
  47. X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome

    Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries

  48. Parkinson’s Disease
  49. Spinal Cord Injury
  50. Stroke Damage

    Anemias and Other Blood Conditions

  51. Sickle Cell Anemia
  52. Sideroblastic Anemia
  53. Aplastic Anemia
  54. Red Cell Aplasia
  55. Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia
  56. Thalassemia
  57. Primary Amyloidosis
  58. Diamond Blackfan Anemia
  59. Fanconi’s Anemia
  60. Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection

    Wounds and Injuries

  61. Limb Gangrene
  62. Surface Wound Healing
  63. Jawbone Replacement
  64. Skull Bone Repair

    Other Metabolic Disorders

  65. Hurler’s Syndrome
  66. Osteogenesis Imperfecta
  67. Krabbe Leukodystrophy
  68. Osteopetrosis
  69. Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy

    Liver Disease

  70. Chronic Liver Failure
  71. Liver Cirrhosis

    Bladder Disease

  72. End-Stage Bladder Disease

NONE

Peer-Reviewed References (not a complete listing, sample references)

The Facts - Prentice, D. "Adult Stem Cells" Appendix K in Monitoring Stem Cell Research: A Report of the President's Council on Bioethics (Washington, DC: Government Printing Office, 2004), 309-346.


4 posted on 10/27/2006 8:12:12 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

Ann Coulter exposed (not to freepers, who already knew)the "sacred cow" tactics that the left continually uses: The 911 harpie widows, Max Cleeland, Christopher Reeve, "war hero" Murtha and now MJF. Screw them all and their leftwing pinko agenda.


5 posted on 10/27/2006 8:14:18 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Christopher Reeve? What's his crime?


6 posted on 10/27/2006 8:15:12 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: pissant

Its all about another money transfer.


7 posted on 10/27/2006 8:16:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Notwithstanding

"Fertility clinics have an inventory of surplus embryos, and they want the right to sell them."

Actually, I believe they can sell them now, just not to researchers funded by Fedeal dollars. Stem cell research is not outlawed- only restricted from getting Federal dollars for research using NEW lines of stems cells.


8 posted on 10/27/2006 8:17:11 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: gotribe

No crime. He just continually was trotted out as an expert to promote embryonic stem cell research. He was no expert and he was an idiot leftist. But that is still legal, far as I can tell.


9 posted on 10/27/2006 8:20:22 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Money and I'm guessing, George Soros and his ilk.


10 posted on 10/27/2006 8:20:50 AM PDT by pissant
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To: DCPatriot

I think everyone just hits auto excerpt rather than trying to post the article in it's entirety first. Very frustrating.


11 posted on 10/27/2006 8:21:01 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: gotribe

I believe Al Gore or John Kerry indicated stem cells would allow him to walk.


12 posted on 10/27/2006 8:21:15 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: gotribe
Christopher Reeve? What's his crime?

It's not him, it's how he was used.

John "The Breck Girl" Edwards: "If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is President, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."

13 posted on 10/27/2006 8:21:33 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Already voted absentee….straight Republican ticket….best choice on the menu.)
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To: SF Republican

That was John Edwards, I think.


14 posted on 10/27/2006 8:22:21 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Notwithstanding
My late father had Parkinson's. Its characterized by the onset of dykinesia and a frozen, shuffling manner to walking and with basic movements. The symptoms can be controlled by drugs. Michael J. Fox deserves our sympathy as a victim but when he enlists in a misleading way on one side of a partisan battle, yes the gloves do come off. He's not infallible and there's no cure for Parkinson's and its inaccurate to claim that embryonic stem cell research will lead to one and its offensive to insinuate one party is more compassionate towards those who suffer debilitating illnesses than the other. Republicans have every right to set the record straight.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

15 posted on 10/27/2006 8:22:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Notwithstanding
The worm is turning on the dems on this issue and they will rue the day they brought it up. This one is so easy to slam, it isn't even funny. Spread the word. I sent this letter to the editor to two of my local news papers today, doubt it will get printed, but it was worth a shot.

Dear Sir/Madam

I noted your publication's eagerness to print stories coming to Michael J. Fox's defense, but noted that no stories or editorials appeared to give the counter point of view. Perhaps before you take up his cause by ignoring the other side of the story you should learn the facts.

Fact 1, Amendment 2 has "Stem Cell Research" in its title, but it actually is an amendment to primarily allow human cloning. The headline doesn't match the story, so to speak, with this amendment.

Fact 2, Stem Cell Research can be broken up into three basic types, namely, adult, ambilical cord, and embryonic. Of the three types, only the first two have shown any promise. In contrast, embryonic stem cells have lead to some quite adverse side effects, such as the formation of tumors, when tested on animals.

Fact 3, Senator Talent and the Republican Party actually do support the first two types of stem cell research and have voted to fund it on numerous occasions, something one William Jefferson Clinton (a democrat) would not do.

Fact 4, Michael J. Fox implied, if not actually stated, that Senator Talent doesn't support ANY stem cell research. That is not true as stated above. Michael J. Fox stated that Amendment 2 was a pro stem cell research proposal. That is not true as set forth above.

Michael J. Fox, for whatever reason, appeared in a commercial that was inaccurate, to say the least, and used his status as a champion of those afflicted with Parkinson's disease promote that inaccuracy. If you decry others for using their status to refute Michael J. Fox, surely you must also decry Michael J. Fox? Of cousre you don't, because Michael is afflicted with this disease. But that does not give him carte blanche to abuse his status and tell a lie. If anything, he is giving false hope to victims. Yes, that is correct, false hope. I say this again, he is promoting embryonic stem cell research and it has shown no promise of efficacy. Being a victim does not give one carte blanche. He has done so much good in raising funds and calling attention to Parkinsons, why would he risk it all to appear in a political ad? I know.

Fact 5, Michael J. Fox is still a liberal hollywood elite, regardless of his disease. He simply could not help himself. Except this time, he was able to conflate his status as a spokesman for Parkinsons disease with his politics. That goes to far.

Very truly yours
16 posted on 10/27/2006 8:23:53 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: gotribe
Christopher Reeve? What's his crime?

He impersonated Superman. And then he up and died!

17 posted on 10/27/2006 8:26:44 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Notwithstanding

My mother-in-law was diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma 18 months ago. There were a few times, that she almost didn't make it.

All of the chemo and medications that the woman took were to get her to the point where using stem cells, from her own body, was possible. She has had two rounds of the stem cell therapy.

Since then, she no longer has to have someone watch over her 24 hours a day. Now, she is back in her own home. My brother-in-law and my family do NOT have to take turns being with her. She was even cutting her own grass, again. Even though, we all tried to forbid her to do it.

My father passed in 1989 from Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia. So I had an idea what we were in for when Carole was diagnosed. I'm glad that she has had the adult stem cell therapy. I wished that it had been available when my father got sick.


18 posted on 10/27/2006 8:26:57 AM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Notwithstanding
Why is there so much attention given to what actors and ententainers do and say?

Not too long ago they were relegated to the tabloids where the brainless could relish in their trailer-trash antics.
Reacting, even negatively, to their inane ramblings simply grants them a degree of legitimacy which, historically, they have never deserved.

19 posted on 10/27/2006 8:28:04 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Notwithstanding
This will see a limited exposure in the MSM. If the article had been otherwise, the NYT and WaPo would have it on front page.
20 posted on 10/27/2006 8:29:01 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: gotribe
Christopher Reeve? What's his crime?

No one mentioned "crime" but you.
But nice try though.

His reference simply included him as a tool of the "progressive" agenda, specifically as another "sacred cow" of the liberal agenda to grab more and more of the national wealth to keep it from going back to the middle class, which pays the lion's share of it.

21 posted on 10/27/2006 8:31:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: pissant; gotribe
Well, yes, as you write, pissant, but there is more to it than that.

The whole point Ann was making was that they have these people who have various things happen to them that should draw our sympathy, and then they say the most outrageous political things, and anyone that responds to them is unfairly criticizing someone who is afflicted.

So, the Jersey Widows can castigate President Bush for failing to prevent 9/11, but have absolutely no problem with Clinton's 8 years of neglect and inaction that led up to 9/11. Stand up to this and say something, and the leftists (press or activists--although that's often the same) scream bloody murder about you daring to criticize "someone whose love one died", and "how should you know what it's like, YOU didn't have someone die in 9/11. These women have a RIGHT to criticize Bush!"

Same with Reeve. He came out on numerous PSAs and campaign commercials asking folks to support Stem Cell Research, research that might make him walk some day. In fact, John Edwards, Kerry's running mate said in 2004, "If John Kerry was president, people like Christopher Reeve would be walking again!"

What are they implying?

That Republicans didn't want Christopher Reeve to get well. They want MJF to continue twitch and jerk. They wanted the Jersey Widows husbands to die!!!!!!

By using these forlorn people, they can make such claims and then attack the defender if they dare to state the afflicted person is wrong. It's despicable!

22 posted on 10/27/2006 8:33:20 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Notwithstanding
MJ Fox is not doing ads only in MO. He's taking his shaking show on the road as he did an ad for Tammy Duckworth here in IL (6th District). It's the same cra garbage;
The nice Dem will cure me, the mean republican wants me to die.
It's sick and HE is pathetic. He's behaving like a cheap whore.
23 posted on 10/27/2006 8:33:20 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Alot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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To: Notwithstanding

That doesn't include the newborn cord blood stem cell use. If Micheal J. Fox had banked his kids cord blood in a family cord blood bank, he might be much much closer to a cure than he is.
So far embryonic stem cells are only used in animal research, partly due to their tendency to development of teratomas.


24 posted on 10/27/2006 8:33:24 AM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: Hoodat

Great question!


25 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:59 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: gotribe
Christopher Reeve? What's his crime?

Superman IV : The Quest for Peace.

26 posted on 10/27/2006 8:36:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DCPatriot

"Back to Fox: He presumes to speak for those with Parkinson's, but he doesn't speak for me. In the name of politics, he has portrayed himself as a victim. We are victims only if we choose to be.

Michael J. Fox has chosen to be spokes victim for a fraudulent cause."

And that says it all....


27 posted on 10/27/2006 8:39:06 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Alas Babylon!

You fleshed that out well. You aren't Ann are you?


28 posted on 10/27/2006 8:39:24 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Notwithstanding

I suffer from a genetic neurological disease called CMT Type II. I understand how when you are in trouble, that the wrong thing can suddenly become tempting. Very tempting. But that is when you have to stick to your values the most. I hope that Micheal J Fox finds it within himself to be ashamed for letting his sickness drive him into wanting something so wrong. And I hope that he finds the strength to face his affliction with courage and peace.....something that he will never truly be able to do if he is letting it color his values.


29 posted on 10/27/2006 8:43:12 AM PDT by Dreagon
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To: pissant

Unless Ann is a fat, retired USAF SMSgt, I don't think so!


30 posted on 10/27/2006 8:46:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Notwithstanding

"Non-stem-cell research has great promise, but it somehow hasn't captured political imaginations. Earlier this year, gene researchers announced a new therapy, using a virus to place a powerful protein into the brain to change its dopamine-production characteristics. The possible benefits for patients with neurological diseases are great.

This therapy could be in clinical trials in three to five years, long before any stem-cell application is identified. (http://www.genome newsnetwork.org/articles/10-00/ Parkinsons-monkeys.shtml)"

This is the very therapy that the Michael J. Fox foundation is providing 1.9 million dollars to support Phase II trials and it's right on the front page of the website both as an article and a press release. From Oct. 17, 2006:


Gene Therapy Trials Show Promise against Parkinson's

Two studies benefit patients without adverse effects, but more tests are needed to be sure

And the press release, October 10, 2006:

Foundation Awards $1.9 Million to Support Ceregene Phase II Gene Therapy Clinical Trial

Funding follows on promising early results of Phase I trial


Shame on Michael Fox indeed! He is not only manipulating his medication to promote a false "promise" for the sake of influencing gullible voters, he is knowingly selling a fraudulent product hoping for political advantage. He was "acting" all right but the role he was playing was that of a HYPOCRITE and a CHARLATAN. He needs to be exposed for doing this and soon!!

There was a thread titled, "Virus, Not Embryo, Can Reverse Parkinson's Disease" exactly 6 years ago, October 28, 2000, about this therapy with an article that was published from the October 27, 2000 issue of Science magazine. Since then they have been working on the Phase I trials which have been very promising. That was the first year that Fox voted in an American election--for Gore of course. Just before the 2000 election, this is what he had to say in an article in the NY Times thanks to a post by LadyDoc:

A Crucial Election for Medical Research By MICHAEL J. FOX
As a Parkinson's disease patient and a new American citizen, I look forward to Election Day as something momentous: It's not just the first presidential race in which I can vote (I was born in Canada). The outcome is likely to have a dramatic bearing on my prognosis — and that of millions of Americans whose lives have been touched by Parkinson's, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, spinal cord injury, Huntington's disease, Alzheimer's disease and other devastating illnesses. That's because one question that may be decided on Tuesday is whether stem cell research — which holds the best hope of a cure for such diseases — will be permitted to go forward.
Campaign aides to George W. Bush, who has not publicly addressed the issue, stated on several occasions that a Bush administration would overturn current National Institutes of Health guideines and ban federal funding for stem cell research. Why? Because the research, which uses human embryos discarded from fertility clinics, has become enmeshed in the politics of abortion. Mr. Bush favors a ban on stem cell research, one aide said, "because of his pro-life views."
Yet stem cell research has nothing to do with abortion. It is not the same as fetal tissue research, the federal funding of which was banned by Presidents Reagan and Bush (but has since been authorized by Congress). Stem cell work uses undifferentiated cells extracted from embryos just a few days old — embryos produced during in vitro fertilization, a process that creates many more fertilized eggs than are implanted in the wombs of women trying to become pregnant. Currently, more than 100,000 embryos are frozen in storage. Most of these microscopic clumps of cells are destined to be destroyed — ending any potential for life.
Their potential for saving lives, however, may be unlimited. Given the proper signal or environment, stem cells, transplanted into human tissue, can be induced to develop into brain, heart, skin, bone marrow cells — indeed, any specialized cells. The scientific research community believes that the transplanted stem cells may be able to regenerate dead or dying human tissue, reversing the progress of disease. According to Cure, a coalition of 28 groups representing patients with cancer, Parkinson's, paralysis and other maladies, "no research in recent history has offered as much hope" for cures.
Support for stem-cell research comes not just from pro-choice Democrats like Al Gore but also from Republicans who have concluded, in the words of former Senator Bob Dole, that supporting such research is "the pro-life position to take."
The list includes Republican senators like Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, John McCain of Arizona, Connie Mack of Florida and Pete Domenici of New Mexico. Even Senator Gordon Smith of Oregon, who the National Right to Life Committee says voted "the right way" on abortion every time last year, supports the research. (let me note: they supported research in the past, before it was known stem cells could be obtained from non fetal tissue)
His family has experience with the ravages of Parkinson's disease, and he has concluded, "Part of my pro-life ethic is to make life better for the living." This is the real compassionate conservatism. One hopes that between now and next Tuesday, Mr. Bush will explain to those of us with debilitating diseases — indeed, to all of us — why it is more pro-life to throw away stem cells than to put them to work saving lives.
Michael J. Fox, the actor, is active in organizations working to combat Parkinson's disease. Copyright 2000 The New York Times Company


He's still playing the same tune even though he knows it's
off-key!






31 posted on 10/27/2006 8:50:55 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Notwithstanding

As another Freeper said,

MJF should take his sperm, fertilize his wife's eggs, and devour his children's stem cells to cure himself.


32 posted on 10/27/2006 8:52:37 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Notwithstanding

Steele should scroll this list at the end of the ad with his sister. That is quite a powerful ad.


33 posted on 10/27/2006 9:01:01 AM PDT by ColdSpringGirl
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To: Notwithstanding
Fetal stem cell research is legal in the EU, they voted it in a few years ago.

And if I remember correctly, it's legal in most of South America, in India, and China.

Anyone who wishes to reap the benefits of fetal stem cell research can go to one of these diverse international centers.

Anyone who whines that the research is not being done is either grossly misinformed or is intending to deceive through disinformation.
34 posted on 10/27/2006 9:02:38 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: mockingbyrd
"In the name of politics, he has portrayed himself as a victim."

Exactly. On TV shows like Spin City, MJF did everything he could to mask his illness in order to not distract from the show. Now, it seems, there are times when he chooses to do the exact opposite - when it serves his personal (political) purposes. Then, it seems he does everything he can in order to (dare I say it?) showcase his illness. In those political ads, MJF and the libs are using his illness as a distraction so that hopefully no one will notice (or at least say outloud) that he's lying through his teeth. I wish MJF absolutely no harm (heck, I'm not even mad at him) - but he has lost my respect. Now he's just another lying, Hollywood liberal trying to manipulate people. Indeed, shame on him.

35 posted on 10/27/2006 9:03:34 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: Notwithstanding

He was also wealthy enough to afford an operation which is probably out of reach of most people with this disease. It is called thalamotomy which destroys, permanently, the part of the Thalamus that causes involuntary movement of the extremities.

Gives pause of why his political ad shows him about to fall out of his chair because of his thrashing about. Doesn't it?

I'm not saying he was acting but....


36 posted on 10/27/2006 9:06:26 AM PDT by RetSignman (New York Times.."All the news that fits our agenda")
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To: dfwgator

LOL!~


37 posted on 10/27/2006 9:09:37 AM PDT by Fawn (Hillary's junk--> http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/10/hillarys_baggag.html)
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To: Notwithstanding

You nailed it. I watched my father, a retired Army officer with three wars under his belt fight Parkinsons disease.He died in 86 from cancer. Never did he look like Fox before meds or after them. I have seen many with the disease, but; none were ever as histrionic as Fox was.


38 posted on 10/27/2006 9:17:16 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Notwithstanding

bump


39 posted on 10/27/2006 9:18:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Movie tickets are donations to the people who undermine us, our families, and our beliefs.)
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To: pissant

QFE


40 posted on 10/27/2006 9:18:54 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: RacerF150

That's pathetic. I have a lot of compassion for Reeve and others like him still living. Sad to see them used by the opportunists.


41 posted on 10/27/2006 9:28:12 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Notwithstanding

More here...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726709/posts


42 posted on 10/27/2006 9:28:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: RacerF150

Thanks for saving me the time of finding that Breck Girl quote. What nobody seems to remember, though, is that Edwards made that outrageous claim on the occasion of Reeve's death.

So, given the circumstances, as outlandish as it may seem, Edwards implied -- inadvertantly? -- that he and John F'in would resurrect Reeve, then cure him. Otherwise, the claim made no sense; no way a dead man is going to walk anywhere.


43 posted on 10/27/2006 9:46:01 AM PDT by thelastvirgil (Lest ye put all your faith in the government to provide for you, check their track record.)
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To: Dreagon

You have it right. When you're desperate for a cure it is easy to avoid thinking about the negative implications of what you want. A lot of what liberals consider rational is just rationalization.


44 posted on 10/27/2006 10:06:29 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: Lumper20

Exactly!!! I am an MD and I have never seen ANY patient do this. He was swaying back and forth. If this is what he does normally, he definitely doesn't have Parkinsons disease. Huntington's Chorea an make people spastic, but even they don't do this.


45 posted on 10/27/2006 11:07:27 AM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: Revolting cat!

He was a good Superman compared to the one they have now. Those Smallville stories are so wussy. They don't show the honor, power and valour of Clark Kent a.k.a. Superman, they disintegrate each story line by showing how Superman can be made powerless, by others, by sex, or by many many variations of kriptonite. Too bad. America needs heroes.


46 posted on 10/27/2006 11:16:47 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Notwithstanding

Thank you for that list. Just printed it out and taped it to my neighbor's door. He was over last night talking his stuff about President Bush not allowing stem cell research. I had to explain the difference between adult and embryo.


47 posted on 10/27/2006 11:21:31 AM PDT by CaliGirl-R (Everything I know about Dems, I learned from Democratic Underground)
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To: boop

With his swaying back and forth, he reminded me of Stevie Wonder without his piano.


48 posted on 10/27/2006 11:28:16 AM PDT by CaliGirl-R (Everything I know about Dems, I learned from Democratic Underground)
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It's amazing to see how people listen to celebrities. I can't remember the name of the show but Sting was on a late night panel show with about 5 or 6 actors saying that the cure for aids is in the Rain Forest . No evidence at all to back up this claim but he said it anyway.


49 posted on 10/27/2006 11:47:44 AM PDT by feyler
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To: Notwithstanding

You know, I think playing the "Pity Me, Attention Wh@re" tactic has jumped the shark. Christopher Reeve may have been the last to get away with it.


50 posted on 10/27/2006 1:10:25 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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