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The Neglect Of Libertarians
National Journal ^ | 10/27/06 | Clive Crook

Posted on 10/27/2006 11:13:01 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile

The vaunted ability of the Republican Party to get out the vote where it really matters is about to be tested. If the party can survive the midterm elections without heavy losses (especially if it retains control of the House) despite the current abysmal poll ratings for the Bush administration and the congressional leadership, then its strategy of attending to its loyalist base will be vindicated. If the party gets the drubbing that Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, assorted congressional scandals, and those awful poll numbers all point to, then the message for 2008 will be different: Republicans must look beyond that loyalist base and care more, as they used to, about support from uncommitted voters.

In the view of a lot of loosely attached conservatives, that would be a very good thing. The party needs a salutary shock, they say -- and, aside from that, divided government is probably a good thing in its own right. But suppose this wish is about to come true. Suppose the uncommitted voters are about to assert themselves. What will they actually be saying? What kind of policies, what kind of Republican Party, would appeal to these drifting, side-switching types? Is there any kind of ideological coherence or consistency in that neglected political zone -- or is it just a matter of "We're sick of this lot, so let's have a change."

One answer, so I read, is that an important part of the uncommitted vote has "liberal" values in the traditional English sense of that term. In the United States such people have to be called "libertarians" or "classical liberals" -- words uncommon in current political discourse, which is revealing in itself. These are citizens who favor limited government in economic affairs (unlike the Democratic base) but also in social and cultural matters (unlike the Republican base). They are instinctively pro-market, wary of big government, and no more than moderately egalitarian, which inclines them to vote Republican -- or it used to, anyway, when Republicans cared about curbing public spending. But at the same time, they are offended by what happens when politics meets evangelical religion. They take a generally permissive view of private morality, are not much devoted to tradition, and are broadly welcoming of technological and cultural innovation, rather than anxious about it. These views incline them to vote Democratic.

Two new books on what has gone wrong with the Republican Party in the past six years emphasize this neglect of the libertarians. In The Elephant in the Room: Evangelicals, Libertarians, and the Battle to Control the Republican Party, Ryan Sager, a New York Post columnist, argues that the modern party, at its most successful, was an alliance of social conservatives from the South and libertarians from the West. During the presidency of George W. Bush, social conservatives and evangelical Christians gained control; their classical liberal partners were pushed aside, and then out. To the extent that this was a deliberate strategy, it was, in Sager's view, wrong. It is better for the party to nurture a broad base rather than a narrow base, he argues, even allowing for the fact that the narrower base is more energized. Also, it just so happens, the policies favored by a libertarian Republican government would be more to his liking than the policies supported by a socially conservative one.

Andrew Sullivan, a leading commentator and blogger, and a Catholic conservative as well, makes a related argument in The Conservative Soul: How We Lost It, How to Get It Back. More concerned about the merits of the issues than with political strategy, he laments the capture of the Republican Party by religiously inspired social conservatives because it led the administration to support, in his view, bad policies -- and often, as he argues, to execute good policies incompetently. Sullivan's kind of conservatives are in favor of fiscal restraint, for instance, because they support limited government. The president's kind of Republicans disagree. And, not coincidentally, Sullivan's kind of conservatives are anti-fundamentalist, as well -- skeptics by temperament, therefore less inclined to undertake hubristic visionary enterprises, and more attentive to the humdrum details of execution.

The question is, how much of the moving middle (if it is a "middle") does this libertarian tendency really occupy? Are there as many libertarians as muddle-headed vacillators? Do they outnumber switchers who vote for personalities, not policies? A new study by David Boaz and David Kirby for the Cato Institute (a think tank dedicated to the classical liberal cause) says that the libertarian vote is big enough to be worth capturing. Indeed, the authors say, it is capable of swinging elections.

Boaz and Kirby use three questions to screen data from recent Gallup polls, and classify respondents according to basic ideology.



TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: a3rdpartyofnobody; balkanization; elections; libertarians; partywings
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To: kinoxi

"This is not libertarian."

How would you know, having read no further than the first paragraph?


21 posted on 10/27/2006 11:44:08 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: kinoxi
Dude, you need to relax. I asked because I thought it was a fairly good piece.

And no, I'm not a Libertarian.

27 posted on 10/27/2006 11:49:10 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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To: LibertarianInExile

So what is your suggestion for the GOP's weaknesses? Demand open borders and drug legalization? I'm sure that will go over will with the voting public.

As long as the libertarian party, and it's candidates, talk about "stopping the flow of human capital" and against anything to secure this nation's land borders, I can not vote for any one of them and I certainly don't think the republican party needs to move any more in that direction.


28 posted on 10/27/2006 11:50:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.org/)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

Thanx. I'm relaxxxxxxxxxxed.


29 posted on 10/27/2006 11:51:20 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: LibertarianInExile
No, it isn't interesting at all; it's pathetically stupid.

The points where libertarians diverge from other Conservatives and GOPers are sticking points that would drive the majority of non-libertarians away from the GOP, if the GOP caved on them.

30 posted on 10/27/2006 11:55:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NapkinUser
"So what is your suggestion for the GOP's weaknesses? Demand open borders and drug legalization? I'm sure that will go over will with the voting public."

Where did my 'suggestion' come into it, and wtf is wrong with you that you can't have a reasonable discussion of the article? It's simply an interesting article as to the utility of bothering with libertarian votes post-2006. It isn't even particular FOR the GOP going after those voters. I don't care how the GOP views its negatives, but they are those things going into this election, and if the GOP loses, it's going to be useful for it to consider WHY--which is why all the premortem talk--and that pre-2008 correction will be important to assessing which direction the GOP is going in the long run. I fail to see what my opinion of drug legalization or open borders have to do with it, but to put it bluntly (pun intended) if the former were initiated, the latter would be less of a problem, and were I setting the policy personally, I would mine the entire Mexican-American border 500 yards deep and make any wannabe immigrants take planes here. But drug legalization isn't the first priority I'd have were I running the show--it'd be securing the borders.

"As long as the libertarian party, and it's candidates, talk about "stopping the flow of human capital" and against anything to secure this nation's land borders, I can not vote for any one of them and I certainly don't think the republican party needs to move any more in that direction."

Some of us agree with you there, and think there needs to be a party that is both pro-liberty AND pro-border control. Ron Paul seems to actually be for controlling the borders first, as does Neal Boortz. Both are libertarians (perhaps Paul even considers himself Libertarian--I am not one myself, and never have been). But the GOP does need to move in the direction of the LP insofar as its view of limited government, and instead, it's moved during the Bush administration to outright acceptance of the Dept of Education and other unConstitutional federal actors.

31 posted on 10/28/2006 12:04:18 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I considered myself libertarian. You encouraged me to change my mind.


32 posted on 10/28/2006 12:05:37 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: LibertarianInExile

I don't see your point, once again.


34 posted on 10/28/2006 12:14:01 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: LibertarianInExile

The most glaringly incorrect assumption of this article lies in the definition of what a libertarian is. The three questions that define whether or not one is a libertarian are WAY too general, and I can see where members of either the Republican or Rat party could answer as if they were this author's definition of a libertarian. Try to define a libertarian, then try to catch a will-o' wisp. I think a few more than three questions is needed here.


35 posted on 10/28/2006 12:16:18 AM PDT by jim35 (Holding my nose to vote all R's.)
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To: kinoxi

I am through trading posts with you, and the only reason I responded above was to ensure that your statement was not without a reasonable, cogent reply, after my prior post was removed (erroneously, I am sure). Good day to you!


36 posted on 10/28/2006 12:20:58 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
"libertarians" or "classical liberals"

Sounds to me like this guy is trying to say "libertarian = liberal", or so it seems. I don't know why, but libertarians seem to me at least, to be, well, kooks. On the news up here in Anchorage, they showed highlights from a local political debate, and the Libertarian rep was dressed up like Che Guevara or something; in camo. He looked like he was gonna pump the 'afro' fist in the air and start chanting 'Down with the man!' or something similar. Apparently, he even said that voting for him or the Green party candidate was a waste and folks would be better off voting for the Democrat senator on the ballot. That sure doesn't sound too "libertarian", but it sure does sound pretty "liberal".

Libertarians just come off as socialist anarchist "legalize everything" types, the sort of folk who'd be running around with a bandana over the face as they do the "WTO Protest" dance for the TV cameras. Sorry, I'm sure most of that is totally wrong, but perception works that way, it isn't bound by truth.

37 posted on 10/28/2006 12:22:17 AM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: jim35

"The most glaringly incorrect assumption of this article lies in the definition of what a libertarian is. The three questions that define whether or not one is a libertarian are WAY too general, and I can see where members of either the Republican or Rat party could answer as if they were this author's definition of a libertarian. Try to define a libertarian, then try to catch a will-o' wisp. I think a few more than three questions is needed here."

Certainly, but there is a degree of clarity necessary for pollsters that must also be somewhat abbreviated, since time is money for these folks. Do you disagree with these questions as a quick way to assess LIKELY libertarians, at least, taken as a whole? It's certainly better than any self-identification, especially with 'conservatives' like Harry Reid out there, and 'libertarians' like Bill Maher.


39 posted on 10/28/2006 12:23:29 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
The author does have a point-the Republicans have almost completely abandoned the ideals of fiscal responsibility and smaller government that they once stood for. I would also recommend checking out Stephen Slivinski's Buck Wild: How Republicans Broke the Bank and Became the Party of Big Government for a further understanding of what has happened to the GOP.
40 posted on 10/28/2006 12:27:00 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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