Posted on 10/28/2006 8:57:05 PM PDT by Dan Evans
New York OKs crossdressers to use facilities of their choice.
If you happen to be passing through Grand Central Station and nature calls, you just might want to hold it until you get home, because, this week, officials with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority decided that transgendered people have the right to use the bathroom – men's or women's – of their choice on New York's subway system.
Helena Stone: "I'm a 24-hour woman."
The agreement was reached following a lawsuit filed by Helena Stone – formerly known as Henry McGuinness – who was arrested twice in 2005 and once earlier this year for disorderly conduct after using the women's restroom at Grand Central Station.
Stone, 70, who is a telephone technician for Verizon, worked regularly at the transit facility when the arrests happened.
A police officer allegedly called Stone "a freak, a weirdo and the ugliest woman in the world" and warned, "If I ever see you in the women's bathroom, I'm going to arrest you."
Stone, who claimed to be forced to use a cup after the arrests instead of a bathroom, filed a complaint with New York City's Human Rights Commission and became a cause célèbre with the sexual-minority community in the city.
"That's the only bathroom I use," Stone told a rally. "That's who I am."
The agreement reached by MTA is similar to a policy instituted by the Human Rights Commission for government and other public bathrooms in the city. MTA will pay Stone $2,000 in damages for legal fees, according to the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, which handled the case. MTA also agreed to conduct transgender-sensitivity training for employees.
"I'm thrilled with it," Stone said of the agreement.
Not all transit riders shared Stone's enthusiasm, however.
"I would not like that," Gloria David, a retiree from Connecticut told the New York Daily News. "I have nothing against 'gay' men or drag queens, but they can use the men's room. I just don't want to go to the bathroom next to a man."
Concern was expressed by another rider that sexual predators could now dress as women and lurk in women's restrooms.
For Rena Gantz, a 23-year-old college student, the settlement was a non-issue.
"It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."
And that suits Stone just fine.
"I'm a 24-hour woman," Stone declared. "I just feel like a woman and I like to wear women's clothes."
This is just wrong. Biology determines one's sex. It is not a social construct or individual preference. This country is going to hell in a handbasket!
Dude, I'm going transgender!
When I was young and dumb I remember wondering why we needed a law making it a crime to impersonate a woman.
Obviously, perverts gawking at women in public restrooms is just one of the many reasons.
But I just love it when I read about these logical liberal collisions. Where is N.O.W? Same place they were during the Clinton administration.
"This is just wrong. Biology determines one's sex. It is not a social construct or individual preference. This country is going to hell in a handbasket!"
Remember, in the minds of liberals reality is what they think it is at that moment.
He's gonna be found beaten to death in a bathroom stall in the near future.
The murder weapons? Handbags.
Here's a link with a photo of the "woman" (I still don't know how to post photos on FR like you experts do!)
He/She gives Helen Thomas a run for her money.
http://www.nydailynews.com/10-24-2006/news/story/464637p-390955c.html
Well stated!
By the way, ladies, we really don't want to use the French moisturizing sea shells in the "for company" basket on the toilet. That stuff will NOT remove engine grime in this or any other reality.
But if we need to wash, and there's no other soap or Lava, it's going to be done. It's got to be done.
And we're going to dry on the worthless, almost-waterproof, velveteen "company" towels too.
Wow did I ever guess wrong before my other post.
Now that I've read the article, I gotta say I can understand why women might not want some mutilated headcase with XY chromosomes peeing on their accomodations...
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OK Rena. I believe I'm the junior Senator from New York. Does that entitle me to take over Hillary's office and cast her votes? I really, sincerely believe I'll be a better senator than her. And, as you said, because I beleive, I am.
The title of the thread had me thinking that it would be another "toilet seat position" thread. I could only wish that were true. :)
As a woman, this guy makes Ms. Thomas into a beauty contestant. As an old guy, he looks like he should be acting in a horror movie.
Good God, that's sick. Would you like for me to teach you how to post photos?
Are you sure you'd want to after that picture?? :)
this is the second story this week about the women's bathroom and both of them are shocking... the first post was the one where men are kneeling on the toilet in the women's bathroom and waiting to put a gun to the woman's face when she enters and make her undress and then take her clothes and her money and have ample time to escape and flee
50 years too late bump.
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