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Mexican Federal Police Using Armored Cars to Advance Against APPO Leftists in Oaxaca (Translation)
El Universal ( Mexico City ) ^ | October 29, 2006 | Alejandro Torres, Jorge Octavio Ochoa & David Aponte ( translated by self )

Posted on 10/29/2006 12:49:27 PM PST by StJacques

PFP utilizes armored cars to advance to the capital plaza of Oaxaca

The armored cars have begun throwing streams of water against members of APPO

Alejandro Torres, Jorge Octavio Ochoa & David Aponte/Correspondents
El Universal (Mexico City)
Oaxaca City, Oaxaca
Sunday 29 October 2006


2:05 p.m.  At 1:52 p.m. the movement of the armored cars of the Federal Preventive Police began on the international highway.

The armored cars have begun throwing out streams of water against the protestors. This is the first occasion in which the Federal Police are using these vehicles.

Without stopping to sound their horns, the PFP attempted to break through the barrier which hundreds of locals formed [in their way].

The local inhabitants did not cede one single centimeter and they pushed against the armored cars in an unequal struggle.

Thus begins the reporting of the first confrontations with the Federal Preventive Police, which is advancing in two compact columns protected by their shields. In the first line the police are not armed, but the antiriot units who are going just behind them do have large weapons to shoot tear gas.

The situation has become chaotic and the inhabitants have ignored the repeated call made by APPO not to put up resistance.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appo; appotrans; federales; oaxaca; stjtranslation
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I don't have much time for an extended commentary, but as you can see, the Mexican federal government has rejected APPO's call for a renewal of negotiations for an end to the crisis.

I will try to keep an eye on this as the day goes on.
1 posted on 10/29/2006 12:49:31 PM PST by StJacques
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
A Mexican Left Watch ping for you all.

Take a look:






2 posted on 10/29/2006 12:50:25 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

The Beeb has some more pictures of these "peaceful" resistance teams.

3 posted on 10/29/2006 12:52:14 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: StJacques

I have been reading the postings at http://www.adirondackbasecamp.com/2006/08/oaxaca-watch/#watchlinks since mid-September. This seems to be a good source of information on the ground.


4 posted on 10/29/2006 12:52:38 PM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: zeaal

Thank you zeaal. I keep a "ping list" to contact interested parties when I post, which you can locate under "pings" on almost all pages at this site. If you want me to include you upon it, so that you can catch up when you arrive, I'll be happy to include you.


5 posted on 10/29/2006 12:54:54 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

You know that Chavez is funding this leftist nonsense. He's Mexico's Soros.


6 posted on 10/29/2006 12:54:59 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: StJacques
Coming soon to LA, Chicago, and cities across the U.S. It's 1968 all over again.

To paraphrase our President, "Political values don't stop at the border".
7 posted on 10/29/2006 12:58:54 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: JCEccles

Yes JCEccles, Chavez is behind a lot of the recent agitation of the Mexican Left. That's why Mexico expelled the Venezuelan Ambassador last year.


8 posted on 10/29/2006 12:58:54 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thank you very much for the threads you have been posting.

Please add me to your list.


9 posted on 10/29/2006 1:00:15 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: JCEccles
"You know that Chavez is funding this leftist nonsense. He's Mexico's Soros."

If you are trying to say that Chavez is the cause of leftist/socialist/populist violence in Mexico, reread your history. I'm sure Chavez loves the idea, and is doing what he can for "la causa", but gimme a break.

Mexico practically invented this. They had "people's" revolutions when Russia was still a monarchy. And China had an emperor. They weren't far behind the French, for crying out loud.

Political instability and socialist rhetoric is a time honored tradition in Latin America.

Which is exactly why it is absolutely insane to import these folks in sufficient numbers to impact American politics. They will vote Republican when hell freezes over.
10 posted on 10/29/2006 1:14:36 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: outdriving
Chavez is in the middle of this crap. Period.

And he funded whacky moonbat Mother Sheehan's raggedy march to CNN's door yesterday.

Chavez is also trying to bribe his way onto the UN Security Council. In fact, he's got her on permanent retainer.

He's been illegally funneling money to Democratic candidates in this year's congressional races too. Count on it.

He has a lot of extra money and no shortage of vile causes to give it to.

11 posted on 10/29/2006 1:21:32 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: outdriving
Chavez is in the middle of this crap. Period.

And he funded whacky moonbat Mother Sheehan's raggedy march to CNN's door yesterday. In fact, he's got her on permanent retainer.

Chavez is also trying to bribe his way onto the UN Security Council.

He's been illegally funneling money to Democratic candidates in this year's congressional races too. Count on it.

He has a lot of extra money and no shortage of vile causes to give it to.

12 posted on 10/29/2006 1:23:24 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: outdriving; JCEccles
outdriving, you are correct in identifying a long history of "independent" leftist agitation in Mexico, but over the past few months within our numerous "Mexican Left Watch" threads a lot of evidence has been presented to the effect that Hugo Chavez is providing support for the Mexican Left. This is why Mexico and Venezuela do not have formally-established diplomatic relations right now -- there is no Mexican Ambassador in Caracas and no Venezuelan Ambassador in Mexico City. So keep in mind that it is the official diplomatic position of the Mexican government that Hugo Chavez is interfering in Mexican internal affairs.

I'm a little busy right now, but if you want to see some of that evidence supporting JCEccles' contention that Chavez is supporting the Mexican Left, I can produce it later.
13 posted on 10/29/2006 1:41:49 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques; JCEccles
I agree that Chavez is heavily involved. That's why I though this tidbit was amusing:

[the Federal Police broke through] the barrier which hundreds of locals formed

Most of these people would be about as "local" as I am, especially now that they've alienated even their teachers' union dupes.

14 posted on 10/29/2006 1:49:06 PM PST by livius
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
I've got to run for a minute, but by way of a quick update, El Universal is reporting that the Mexican Federal Preventive Police are just one block short of retaking the Zocalo capital plaza in Oaxaca City. It appears that the PFP is somewhat surprised that there are so few APPO militants in their way and they're looking around to see what might be wrong, according to the article which says (translated) "The Zocalo [capital plaza] of the city looks almost deserted, the members of APPO who were found camped out there are no longer there."

This is not what I was expecting. I'll check back in later.
15 posted on 10/29/2006 1:51:04 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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I wrote up a plausible description of yesterdays events here because so many people seemed confused by them.
16 posted on 10/29/2006 2:04:15 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Not everyone in Mexico is evil. There are many people who just want to make a decent living, raise their children, and run small businesses. At some point these people must either flee the chaos that leftists, including the dead 'photojournalist', are fomenting, or fight.

I, for one, refuse to condemn them for fighting.

Spot on analysis. Our WORTHLESS US media outlets purposefully clouded the issue. Just because they could not decide which to support: corrupt Leftist Government, or more corrupt Marxists. Sadly, I was hoping that more Marxists would offer themselves as APC Trac-Lube.

17 posted on 10/29/2006 2:20:15 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: StJacques
Wow, those logs are enormous! I can't believe they still have trees like that there.

Honestly though, all eyes on the event is really the way to go. Have you guys seen the video taken by Will? Pretty incredible stuff. Certainly not worth his life though.

Martial law in Oaxaca? Just in time for school registration to start.
18 posted on 10/29/2006 2:20:34 PM PST by DaoPian
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To: DaoPian

How about a link to the video.


19 posted on 10/29/2006 2:22:23 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
I have a short article from El Universal translated for you all. Apparently the PFP has driven the protestors out of the Zocalo capital plaza but they have not moved in to take full possession of it yet.

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Zocalo protestors dispersed with gas

The march summoned by APPO and [that of] the PFP in the plaza of Oaxaca City coincide, but neither of the sides enter

Alejandro Suverza
El Universal (Mexico City)
Oaxaca City, Oaxaca
Sunday 29 October 2006

4:01 p.m.It could not be more fateful, the march summoned by the Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO) and the Federal Preventive Police (PFP) coinciding in the Zocalo capital plaza, where federal forces flung tear gas to disperse the people.

APPO's march had to turn around and did not enter the Zocalo, so as to avoid a confrontation with federal forces.

One front as much as another has folded. The Zocalo remains intact, neither one side nor the other being able to enter.

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So the Zocalo is evidently "unoccupied" at the moment, with both sides holding back a bit. Hmmm .... I'm guessing someone in the PFP is trying to communicate with the APPO leadership to end this thing peacefully, given that the outcome is not in doubt.

20 posted on 10/29/2006 2:32:36 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Bump


21 posted on 10/29/2006 2:45:46 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Jack Black
Brads Video Footage as posted on Chiapas Indymedia (Download) - Intense, but basically illustrates how screwed up and chaotic things are.

It's almost 40mb, as far as video goes, it records this man's final moments. Pretty incredible stuff. Oaxaca - Watch
22 posted on 10/29/2006 2:49:24 PM PST by DaoPian
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To: StJacques
I don't doubt for a minute that Chavez is helping this out all he can. I said as much in my post.

Chavez fancies himself the next Castro, though he doesn't have an iron grip on power, yet. Lucky, he does not have the luxury of lining up his opponents against a wall and firing away that Che and Castro had. But he is much better financed, obviously. You've got nothing to prove to me.

The problem I have is the implication that this unrest would not have occurred without Chavez' support. Mexican history, especially in areas with large indigenous populations, does not support this.

Mexican Indians tend to require little provocation from leftist agitators or opportunity to take to the streets in opposition to the largely Caucasian oligarchy. As misguided as it might be, it is hardly surprising, given an unsophisticated populace and a repressive central government.

And the fact they ran like hell when the government showed up in force should not surprise you. There is every reason to believe at least some of the stories of the mass murder of Mexican Indians by the government in the recent past are true. Even if it is doubtful that Fox would allow such a thing in this very public situation.

No matter how biased the press, their mere presence with access to worldwide communication prevents much potential bloodshed in Mexico as well as Venezuela.

We should never let our politics blind us to reality. Right or wrong, these protesters fear the government with good reason.

As an aside, it is laughable that Mexico is expelling the Venezuelan ambassador for interfering with her internal politics, while Mexico is doing everything it can to interfere with ours. Why the double standard? Stupid Gringos, that they put up with this crap!
23 posted on 10/29/2006 2:54:31 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: outdriving; rovenstinez
"The problem I have is the implication that this unrest would not have occurred without Chavez' support."

I will be the first to agree with your proposition that the unrest would have occurred without any help from Chavez. That the what of what has occurred. But when you get to addressing how it has all transpired, then I would argue that financing does enter into the picture. Flavio Sosa, APPO's erstwhile leader, has been jetting back and forth from Oaxaca to Mexico City, along with his full staff, for over two months now; the APPO demonstrators in Mexico City who are manning the protest encampment outside the Mexican Senate are very well-fed and housed, there has been an extensive APPO propaganda effort mounted at no small expense to the organization, and much more that we can point to in the way of activities which incur significant expenses. The same thing can be said of Lopez Obrador's recent shutdown of the central business district in Mexico City in the aftermath of the July 2nd presidential election. Both protests would have occurred "all on their own," but the duration and manner in which these protests unfolded, the how question, suggests that there are outside sources of funding for the Mexican Left and Chavez's contacts are the best possible source we can identify from afar.

I'm pinging rovenstinez here, because he is in Mexico City and he can speak to the Cuban and Venezuelan connections with a very high degree of authority.

And yes; Mexico does exercise a significant amount of influence in our internal political life. There is no arguing that point.
24 posted on 10/29/2006 3:17:32 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Mexican security forces push to retake Oaxaca


By DUDLEY ALTHAUS and DANE SCHILLER
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

OAXACA, MEXICO -- Mexican security forces today used tear gas, bulldozers and sheer physical force to literally push back demonstrators on their way toward taking control of the besieged city of Oaxaca.

Protesters sang the Mexican national anthem as they resisted, but didn't fight as security forces began their push to restore order.

Early on, demonstrators screamed and threw a few rocks as they were pushed back, but there were no immediate reports of violence or injuries, witnesses said,

However, as the afternoon wore on and the authorities fought their way closer to the town square, the situation grew more tense.

Security forces fired tear gas canisters into the crowd before backing off -- at least for the moment-- just before 4 p.m.

Earlier in the day, leaders of the protest movement that has paralyzed Oaxaca for the past five months urged their followers to avoid provoking the thousands of federal police and army troops that swept into the city Saturday to restore order.

The protesters' rebel radio was calling on people to lay in the streets to physically prevent water cannons and other vehicles from moving to the city center. Helicopters were circling tightly overhead. And the air was filled with smoke from thunderous homemade bottle rockets, launched so that protesters could alert each other to incoming federal forces.

Housewives, children, grandmothers and tens of thousands of others spilled into the streets to witness the dramatic events, seen here as historic, a grassroots revolt against a state government that some say has neglected the poor.

It was a cat-and-mouse game for much of the afternoon today as federal forces tried to make their way past barricades and into the Oaxaca town square where many protesters had taken refuge.

The police and soldiers filed past torched cars and city busses that blocked streets leading into the town square.

Authorities used water cannons to clear some of the more defiant of the protesters, but many cleared a path for the security forces without much of a fight.

Sometime before 4 p.m., authorities regained control of the city's town hall, Mexico City's El Universal reported.


25 posted on 10/29/2006 3:37:57 PM PST by Jack Black
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The one above is the most recent story I see. It is published at approx 2:45 PST today.


26 posted on 10/29/2006 3:39:08 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
Alright, the latest news is that the PFP and APPO are "near each other" in the center of Oaxaca City. I have the feeling that the PFP is counting upon the fact that when it gets dark they will have the upper hand and they should be able to take the central square with much less resistance than they would otherwise encounter.

I have some pics to put up, the last three were taken near the city center:












27 posted on 10/29/2006 4:01:11 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Fox news right now.


28 posted on 10/29/2006 4:24:06 PM PST by DaoPian
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To: All

Sorta OK report, nothing new.


29 posted on 10/29/2006 4:26:18 PM PST by DaoPian
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To: StJacques; All

Sunday, October 29, 2006

Oaxaca, Mexico: When the fight starts, it will be at Juarez University

Ah, youth. Those kids! What'll they think of next?

What they are thinking and doing right now is preparing for a confrontation with the federales. I just walked down towards the university and it doesn' look nice. Students, or those masquerading as students, have hijacked 8 vehicles that I could see from the south. I would assume they have done the same to the north. Buses, trucks and trailers have been jijacked and are being used to block Avenida Universidad, from Plaza Oaxaca (Soriana/Fábricas de Francia)) to the university. One of the vehicles is a propane gas tanker, property of Gas de Oaxaca. Its tires have been punctured.

The "students" are mostly masked, striding up and down the boulevard with chests puffed out, demonstrating their willingness to suffer grievious injury or death in support of their cause, whatever of that remains. Caos reigns in and around the plaza's parking lot. Cars and taxis driving around in circles trying to find a way out. Why people are out driving around in the face of this rather well publicized scrum, I do not know.

The "students" have set up barricades up and down the boulevard, blocking both north and southbound traffic. About every 50 meters or so the road is blocked with vehicles, tires, stacks of firewood or boulders. They began setting fire to the tires about 30 minutes ago. The federales have a helicopter in the air circling above the university, planning their approach.

The almost wholly peaceful entrance into the city by the federal forces looks likely to turn violent at the university. I could get no photos. It's just too dangerous. I am highly alergic to the sight of my own blood.

I'm going to take another walk down there now and see what's happening.

Just to keep the record straight, the PFP and other federal forces are not being welcomed like the Americans arriving in Paris (after De Gaulle allowed us in, that is). While everyone I have talked to is pleased that this may finally be coming to an end, no one is particularly pleased that federal forces have entered the city to effect that termination. Suspicion of both federal and state governments runs very high here and probably for good reason.




Some citizens object to the feds' presence. The signs, left to right, read:
"PFP get out"
"Until the fall of URO" (the governor)
"Oaxaca is not an army barracks. Army get out. Get out of Oaxaca URO and take your coterie with you."
"Oaxaca is not an army barracks. Army get out. Have pity on your own children. URO get out."

I hear gunfire or maybe rockets from the university. I gotta go.

http://markinmexico.blogspot.com/


30 posted on 10/29/2006 4:27:30 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigshit be upon him))
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To: StJacques

The Mexican government appears to be showing remarkable restraint.


31 posted on 10/29/2006 4:28:21 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Founding Father

Thanks for posting that report.


32 posted on 10/29/2006 4:31:39 PM PST by livius
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To: StJacques
"The same thing can be said of Lopez Obrador's recent shutdown of the central business district in Mexico City in the aftermath of the July 2nd presidential election. Both protests would have occurred "all on their own," but the duration and manner in which these protests unfolded, the how question, suggests that there are outside sources of funding for the Mexican Left and Chavez's contacts are the best possible source we can identify from afar."

Thanks for you reasoned response. I don't have any special knowledge of financing or the politics of the Mexican left, but I have been paying close attention since I traveled there a few times in the eighties and heard some hair raising stories from the locals, and since Mexico became a player in American politics.

Lopez Obrador has become a kind of Mexican "Al Gore" in the eyes of many who are reaching for a reason to dispute the election of the Fox party's guy. The lefty stuff does gain a parallel to the U.S. in that sense. But we must recognize that socialist political rhetoric is the accepted mainstream in Mexico, and you could not be elected dogcatcher without it. Even if the average Mexican knows it's so much talk. Hope springs eternal.

And the PRI is still out there in force, in spite of being dragged reluctantly to the reform game. And I suspect, having been in power during the rise of the drug cartel factor, that the PRI is still very much a force to be reckoned with in alliance with drug corruption. In addition to well entrenched local corruption on all levels. Mexico doesn't need a Mafia, as long as it has a PRI.
33 posted on 10/29/2006 4:36:37 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: Founding Father

Thanks for posting that, ya beat me to it!


34 posted on 10/29/2006 4:38:02 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
No "new" news as of now, but more pics are up at El Universal, and they do show the dangerous nature of the situation a little more clearly, including the first one, whose caption on the El Universal homepage says that APPO is using Molotov cocktails against the PFP. Somehow it seems to me that portrays the second pic below more than the first, but I'm relating the details to you as they are put up.






35 posted on 10/29/2006 4:38:55 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Great pics! Thanks for the post.


36 posted on 10/29/2006 4:45:37 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: StJacques

Hope you do not mind me linking this other thread here. It has a few of the AP, Reuters, and AFP reports.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1728191/posts


37 posted on 10/29/2006 4:47:23 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
I have some news to post about what is happening in Mexico City's Federal District with the crackdown in Oaxaca. I don't know why I didn't think of it, but given that the truly radical elements of the PRD are concentrated in the capital, it should have been expected that something would happen there.

Story 1, I'll excerpt a couple of paragraphs:


APPO enters hotel in DF in search of Ulises Ruiz

Administrator of the building assures protestors that the Governor is not to be found there

2:18 p.m.A committee of members of the Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO), of the Otra Campaña [English="Other Campaign"] of the EZLN [i.e. the Zapatistas] and of the National Union of Workers entered the Hotel Nikko for a few minutes to demand that the administration of the building prove that Governor Ulises Ruiz is not a guest there.

In these moments some 200 people who support the Oaxacan movement protested at the doors of the hotel shouting slogans in repudiation of the state chief executive. . . .

. . . Approximately 40 policemen of the association of grenadiers, armed with anti-riot equipment, protected the main entrance of the building while the demonstration of the Oaxacans proceeded. . . .


Is this a report of an attempted lynching by APPO and EZLN "members" -- I'm laying strong odds these were PRD supporters -- right in Mexico City? What would they have done if they had been told Ulises Ruiz was there? Does anyone think they would have politely said "Would you please give him a message for us?"

And then there is this report, which I'm only excerpting:



APPO members confront grenadiers in the DF

Various anarchist groups confront uniformed officers

5:15 p.m. Grenadiers of the Secretariat of Public Security of the Federal District (SSP-DF) confronted some 150 members of the Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO) on the Central Axis Lazaro Cardenas [Avenue].

At the crossing of Juarez and Central Axis, the uniformed officers received the sympathizers of the Popular Assembly with shield and nightstick in hand. The police action triggered a violent response from the protestors and they surrounded the uniformed officers.

It is agreed that contained within the anarchist groups (whose faces were covered in black and they were wearing hats), were university students and union activists supporting the Oaxacans, more grenadiers came up to the crossing. . . .

. . . With pushes, the protestors little by little managed to fold before the grenadiers. Among those Oaxacan sympathizers there has been a brush of physical confrontation, some asked for respect for the police and others refused it.

After a meeting which teachers and leaders of the Popular Assembly carried out in a building of the teacher's union located on Allende and Belisarion Dominguez streets, they agreed to carry out protests from this Sunday onward around the city to call the attention of the public "to the present repression of the people of Oaxaca by the PFP," assured one of the leaders who headed the march and refused to give his name. . . .


I guess Mexico City is where disgruntled leftists retire to protest these days, knowing that the local government will protect and sympathize with them.
38 posted on 10/29/2006 5:21:38 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: All
Denial of Service Attack on Mexican Consulates - Angry White Kid is linking to this:

*** http://www.mountainrebel.net/oaxaca/ ***

I think just going to the site contributes to the attack. There is a frame with a bunch of other frames that automatically reload. They're calling it some kind of electronic blockade.

39 posted on 10/29/2006 5:24:09 PM PST by DaoPian
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To: StJacques
It beats working for a living.

For leftists anyway.

40 posted on 10/29/2006 5:26:15 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: All
Here's a pic of the confrontation at Central Axis and Juarez Avenue I just described in my #38 above. Note that the protesters were trying to set up a blockade with a city bus they seized.



41 posted on 10/29/2006 5:34:50 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

They need to feed their water cannon from the sewage tanks. The leftists publicly p*ssed and crapped upon instantly lose all credibility, both for themselves and for their cause.


42 posted on 10/29/2006 5:46:52 PM PST by GSlob
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To: StJacques

7:30p.m. My friends in Oaxaca say APPO announces on their radio station for interested people to bring gas tanks. They tipped an LP tanker over and threatened to torch it. Several fires are burning in the street, quite a lot of gun shots heard. Other radio stations recaptured are giving thanks to the Mexican Federal Police for coming to their defense. Most of the citizens of Oaxaca are grateful and standing WITH the Federal Police, but tonight they expect the worst. At 11:30pm they promise to do live TV coverage


43 posted on 10/29/2006 5:47:09 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez

"Rumors fly, just heard from a friend in the centro that there is
fighting in 7 areas of the city, a bus was taken and rammed in to one
of the water tanks, and that a father and his 14 year old son have
been killed.

Anyone?"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oaxacastudyactiongroup/message/1153


44 posted on 10/29/2006 5:51:08 PM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigshit be upon him))
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To: StJacques

Would you be so kind as to add me to your ping list?


45 posted on 10/29/2006 6:37:06 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: rovenstinez

Thank you for the information rovenstinez. You are a very valuable resource here.


46 posted on 10/29/2006 6:43:42 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: rovenstinez; All

"In Mexico City, several hundred supporters of the Oaxaca protests converged on a hotel where Ruiz was rumored to be staying, damaging the grounds around the entrance and screaming "Murderer! Murderer!"

The government news agency Notimex reported that a vehicle transporting federal police to Oaxaca crashed Sunday, killing one officer and injuring 12. Federal officials could not confirm the report, but protesters cheered wildly as it circulated Oaxaca."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061029/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_oaxaca_unrest


47 posted on 10/29/2006 6:52:31 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
APPO has abandoned the Zocalo in Oaxaca City.


APPO abandons the Zocalo in Oaxaca

The PFP occupies the gateways to the old Government Palace, without any resistance

Alejandro Torres, David Aponte, Alejandro Suverza & Jorge Octavio Ochoa/Correspondents El Universal (Mexico City)
Oaxaca
Sunday 29 October 2006


8:04 p.m.  The Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO) abandoned the Zocalo of Oaxaca this evening after six hours from the beginning of the operation, while the Federal Preventive Police (PFP) occupy the gateways of the old Government Palace, without any resistance.

Flavio Sosa, one of the leaders of the Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO), had said that they would maintain resistance in the Zocalo of this city and made a call to their sympathizers so that they would bring them water, milk, and food.

For its part, the Federal Preventive Police (PFP) is maintaining a ring around the Oaxacan Zocalo and has already taken three of the four accesses [into its control].

Moreover, they acquired entrance to University City and minutes afterwards the Radio Universidad station, by which APPO transmitted its messages, left the air.

After a strategic withdrawal, the PFP surrounded the streets of the Zocalo and is maintaining squads to deny access to the area.


I think that just may do it. I'll check back in about an hour or so, but I think APPO's "grand resistance" has fizzled.
48 posted on 10/29/2006 7:07:28 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Ping to my #48. I'm enjoying your posts by the way. You're very well-informed.


49 posted on 10/29/2006 7:09:07 PM PST by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thanks for your hard work in keeping us up to date on these important developments. You have kept us incomparably better informed than the MSM could or is willing to.


50 posted on 10/29/2006 7:10:28 PM PST by JCEccles
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