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"Ancient Pyramids of Bosnia?" Things to make you go 'hmmm'
ABC News ^ | Oct. 29, 2006 | unknown

Posted on 10/29/2006 3:29:49 PM PST by thubb

Ancient Pyramids of Bosnia? Many Are Believers

Updated 5:46 PM ET October 29, 2006

Egypt has pyramids, China has a wall and Greece has the Parthenon -- all evidence of ancient and great civilizations.

Ever heard of ancient Bosnians?

Probably not. But some are seeing pyramids towering above a drab Bosnian town -- perhaps pyramids bigger than the Egyptians built.

Tourists are flocking to buy trinkets, to eat pyramid pizza and pyramid cake, and stay at the local hotel, re-named the Pyramid of the Sun.

"Last year here, we had 20,000 tourists in the whole summer," Davor Pekic, owner of the Pyramid of the Sun, said through a translator. "This year, we had that many tourists on one day."

These are tourists who brave the mine fields left behind after the country's civil war because they believe that the Bosnian structures are pyramids.

"Yes," one tourist said about the pyramids' authenticity. "I think 100 percent."

"I come from Slovenia, seven hours traveling, to see these in the Bosnia," another tourist said. "Why not?"

Why not? Because there shouldn't be pyramids in Europe. While the ancient Egyptians were building their pyramids, apparently their European counterparts were living in caves.

"In this age in Bosnia, in Europe, we had prehistoric civilization," said Enver Imamovic, former director of the National Museum of Bosnia. "No houses."

So who claims these are pyramids? Bosnia's very own "raider of the lost ark," Semir Osmanagic.

"This is the biggest civilizational complex ever built on the face of the planet," he said.

Osmanagic is a businessman and part-time archaeologist who left Bosnia for Texas 15 years ago to make his fortune in the oil industry. On a trip back home, something caught his eye.

"The first thing I noticed was the peculiar shape of that hill," he said. "It had the perfect shape, the perfect geometry of the pyramid."

So he got workers to start digging. What they found was a structure they believe may be an ancient pyramid -- a pyramid bigger than the famous pyramids of Egypt.

The Egyptian government sent an expert to Bosnia take a look. His verdict: Keep digging. Something here is man-made, he said, but it is something very primitive that can't possibly be compared to the Great Khufu Pyramid.

"Until recently the Khufu Pyramid in Egypt was considered the biggest pyramid in the world," Osmanagic said. "All of a sudden, we have a couple of pyramids much bigger."

The day ABC News visited there were senior citizens from Sarajevo, a rather elderly-looking youth group from Kazakhstan and a gaggle of Slovenian insurance brokers.

Many academics dismiss Semir, who has yet to find any tools or organic relics, as a "pyramidiot" or a man obsessed with the Indiana Jones trilogy.

At a local souvenir stand a visitor can buy a t-shirt with Harrison Ford on the front, or with Osmanagic on the front, or one that says, in Bosnian, "forget about the country that doesn't have the pyramids."

Osmanagic has raised a lot of money, some of it from the Bosnian government.

"April 1 we had zero Bosnian mark[s] on our account," he said. "And archaeology is very expensive."

Are the Bosnian discoveries really pyramids? Apparently they line up with the points on a compass.

"The north side, which we are standing at now, is perfectly aligned with Northern Star on the sky," Osmanagic said.

According to Osmanagic, if you connect the tops of all three pyramids -- the Pyramid of the Moon, the Pyramid of the Sun and the Pyramid of the Dragon -- they form a perfect equilateral triangle. Apparently, thermal imaging shows man-made structures in the valley that he claims are made of ancient concrete blocks.

"If you've found stone blocks built by man," Osmanagic said, "then it will be obvious for everyone that this is a huge man-made structure in the shape of the pyramid. Equals: Pyramid."

Osmanagic's focus is now the site's tunnels -- or natural caves, depending on your perspective.

"We will have very exciting archaeological winter in front of us," he said.

What does he think he will find at the end of the tunnel that leads to the center of the valley?

"It's kind of a secret," he said. "But I think that's probably one of the keys to the mystery of the Bosnian pyramids."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; bosnia; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; pyramids
hmmmm......
1 posted on 10/29/2006 3:29:51 PM PST by thubb
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To: thubb

Others do not share his enthusiasm, but I am sure the locals will enjoy becoming a theme park.


2 posted on 10/29/2006 3:31:28 PM PST by Maeve
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To: thubb

(starts digging college grounds)


3 posted on 10/29/2006 3:32:53 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: thubb

Sometimes a big hill is just a big hill.


4 posted on 10/29/2006 3:37:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Mathemeticians are machines that turn coffee into theorems.)
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To: thubb

maybe i've slept too much, but where is the Pyramid of the Dragon?????


5 posted on 10/29/2006 3:37:56 PM PST by thubb
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To: thubb; blam; SunkenCiv
Osmanagic is a businessman and part-time archaeologist who left Bosnia for Texas 15 years ago to make his fortune in the oil industry. On a trip back home, something caught his eye.

I totally trust this guy to see an opportunity to make a buck.

6 posted on 10/29/2006 3:44:23 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: thubb

Hmmm, maybe aliens?


7 posted on 10/29/2006 3:54:23 PM PST by Perdogg (Democratic Party - The political wing of Al Qaida)
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To: thubb

Sounds like another eastern European pyramid scheme...


8 posted on 10/29/2006 3:57:39 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: thubb

Well, that is a particularly uniform looking hill. But what are the odds of that happening with all of the hills in the world. Seems like there could be a dozen or so about the place.

9 posted on 10/29/2006 4:02:59 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: thubb
The biggest pyramid is at Kahokia, not Egypt.

There was a really interesting film on these Bosnian hills on TV yesterday.

I wonder if they are in any way related to the so-called "Seven Sacred Hills"?

Gypsy lore has Bosnia being the site of civilization for many millenia more than it is ordinarily credited with. Maybe there really is something to the old stories they brought with them to India on their way to Tuzla ~ that's where they were headed for some strange reason.

10 posted on 10/29/2006 4:03:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Sometimes a big hill is just a big hill.

and occasionally they aren't -- the mud brick pyramids and ziggurats of mesopotamia and persia mostly look like symmetrical hills now -- and they could be quite tall. The ziggurat on top of which the temple to marduk in Babylon was built was 91 meters tall (incidentally its name, Etemenanki, means "House of the foundation of Heaven on Earth" and it may be the basis for the story of the Tower of Babel). In fact, one complex of ziggurats in Iran (I cannot recall its name right now; I'll try to find it again) was discovered because a western archaeologist went to the valley they were in following reports that the locals downstream of several symmetrical hills were able to collect gold artifacts after seasonal floods.

I'm not saying that this is necessarily a valid discovery; only time will tell that. But many old manmade structures are now only suspiciously shaped mounds and hills.
11 posted on 10/29/2006 4:11:27 PM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ?!


12 posted on 10/29/2006 4:29:30 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: thubb

What about the pyramids of Wisconsin.

Aztalan The pyramids of Wisconsin
http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/1998/Winter/Aztalan/

pyramids of rock lake
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf066/sf066a01.htm

The Lost Pyramids of Rock Lake:
Wisconsin’s Sunken Civilization
http://www.galdepress.com/books/alternativescience/lostpyramidsofrocklake.html


13 posted on 10/29/2006 4:47:41 PM PST by quietolong
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To: verum ago
...and occasionally they aren't...

And sometimes a big hill isn't a big hill. True. We'll have to wait and see what develops from this dig. I hope they can find the funding to pursue it.

14 posted on 10/29/2006 4:52:45 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Mathemeticians are machines that turn coffee into theorems.)
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To: FormerLib

I was sortof thinking the same thing, ya know,..some of those hills looked just like a slice of Swiss cheese,..so I told some workers to start digging and whatdoyaknow, the damn thing is made out of Gouda!


15 posted on 10/29/2006 4:56:05 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: thubb

Don't forget about the Illinois pyramids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia


16 posted on 10/29/2006 5:37:42 PM PST by kenn5
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To: kenn5
Occasionally while traveling around the western US you see some very strange rock formations that look like they could potentially be petrified remains of an artificial structure from a million or so years ago. But then again, some also see a face on Mars too.
17 posted on 10/29/2006 6:44:34 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: BlackVeil; Fractal Trader; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; ...
Thanks BlackVeil and Fractal Trader for the pings. There have been a few topics about this, earlier in the year, thanks for the update. Of course, nothin's changed, it's still just a hill and the huckster is still a huckster.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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18 posted on 10/29/2006 8:06:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FormerLib

From this angle it looks unnatural. I'd like to see it from all angles though.


19 posted on 10/29/2006 9:29:23 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: verum ago; festus; thubb

I also saw the TV show last night. The interesting thing was that apparently there may be three pyramids. You may recall the guy who discovered that the pyramids if Giza seem to be in the same position as the stars of Orion's belt. Something similar in Bosnia? This is so large I would be surprised if the entire hill was man made, but perhaps people took an existing hill, squared it a bit and put a pyramid symetrically on top.

Some years ago a saw an article in National Geographic about a 50 foot high mound in Bulgaria that had been examined. There was pottery from either 6,000 + years ago or 6,000 BC, I don't remember which. It was very colorful and varied. Then pottery from 3,000 year later was very dull, well formed, but lacking any joy or enthusiasm. My thought when I saw the difference, was "what on earth happened to these poor people." I don't have a map in front of me, but I think these two places are close enough to each other to have traded and influenced each other. Also if the older date is the correct one, I wonder the eruption of Mt. Mazama (Crater Lake, USA) could have caused a major climate change.


20 posted on 10/29/2006 9:50:52 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: kenn5

Cahokia was a large Indian city, even more developed than many European cities. When Europeans encountered Indians on the East Coast, they were described as being very tall and large. They easily passed as White also.


21 posted on 10/29/2006 10:00:24 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: thubb

Interesting. What a find it would be if the dig did end up with an ancient pyramid.


22 posted on 10/30/2006 4:28:14 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: FormerLib

Yes...it doesn't make any sense to build a huge pyramid in an area of comparable-sized hills. It looks like an erosional landform to me, not a pyramid.


23 posted on 10/30/2006 4:35:57 AM PST by Renfield
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To: Renfield
There's a lot of Karst in Bosnia, as I recall.
24 posted on 10/30/2006 8:27:28 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: justa-hairyape; SunkenCiv
Thanks for the ping, Sunk!

traveling around the western US you see some very strange rock formations that look like they could potentially be petrified remains of an artificial structure from a million or so years ago.

...and we took pictures of "Marge Simpson" and "Bart" on top of a cliff above the road, in some badlands type formations near Cody, WY a few years ago.

Once we had stopped & had the camera out, other people started stopping to see what we had spotted, then also broke up laughing & pointing.

Sometimes a sculpture isn't.

25 posted on 10/30/2006 9:42:34 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: gleeaikin

While the pyramid may in fact be ancient the organization behind promoting it appears to be less than forthright.

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/update.html


26 posted on 10/31/2006 6:40:51 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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