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A 'third way' solution to transsexual MP
The Daily Telegraph ^ | October 30, 2006 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 10/29/2006 11:49:33 PM PST by MadIvan

Italy's first transsexual MP, a flamboyant 41-year-old television star, has caused a storm in the houses of parliament by using the female lavatories.

Vladimir Luxuria, 41, an MP for the Communist Refoundation party, was born a man but dresses in women's clothes and prefers to be addressed as a woman. She says she considers herself "neither male nor female".

She was found in the ladies' lavatory by Elisabetta Gardini, a former showgirl who is now a spokesman for Forza Italia, the party led by Silvio Berlusconi.

Miss Gardini allegedly told Ms Luxuria: "This is the ladies', you cannot come in here, get out." She later complained: "It was a thousand miles from my mind that I should walk in and find him there.

"When I went into the toilet I honestly felt very uncomfortable. I felt I had been attacked sexually."

Ms Luxuria said: "At first I thought it was a joke. Then I meekly complied. Afterwards, I got angry. I have been using ladies' bathrooms for years, and I've been using this one at the houses of parliament for six months. Lots of my colleagues have seen me in the bathroom and I often join in the gossip."

Ms Luxuria is described on the parliament's website as a man, but is familiar to every Italian as a woman thanks to her television chat show.

She said: "It would be absurd for me to go pee with the men. There would probably be bigger problems."

The spat has divided politicians and caused a heated debate among parliamentary whips. Mara Carfagna, another Forza Italia MP, said: "If he undergoes the necessary operations and becomes a real woman then no one would have anything to worry about and we would accept him in the woman's bathroom openly."

However, some colleagues have rallied behind Ms Luxuria and the leader of the lower house has called for calm and tolerance.

The most likely solution is that Ms Luxuria will be granted her own private bathroom.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bathroom; italy; transsexual
I didn't realise in addition to lavatories for Men and Women, they were going to have to provide one for Neuter.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/29/2006 11:49:35 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/29/2006 11:49:48 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
I'll make the same comment to this article that I recently made to a similar one. It is this:

All perverts should be ostracized, shamed, ridiculed, and humiliated. This is how society has kept itself in check since the beginning of days. Even school kids use ridicule to keep each other in check. Some call it cruel. I call it crucial. We cannot tolerate the "normalization" of perversion.
3 posted on 10/29/2006 11:52:41 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: MadIvan

4 posted on 10/29/2006 11:55:02 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: MadIvan
The most likely solution is that Ms Luxuria will be granted her own private bathroom.

Why? Are there no cubicles in the gents?

5 posted on 10/29/2006 11:59:50 PM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: MadIvan
The White House Press Corps runs into similar problems:


6 posted on 10/30/2006 12:01:46 AM PST by RWR8189 (David McSweeney for Congress)
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To: Mrs Ivan
To be honest dear, I wouldn't want transvestites in the gents loo either.

Love, Ivan

7 posted on 10/30/2006 12:03:27 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

You are what you are and not what you want to be. Otherwise everyone would probably want to be Bill Gates.


8 posted on 10/30/2006 12:08:21 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
Otherwise everyone would probably want to be Bill Gates.

I would not want to be Bill Gates. I'd just like to have his money.

9 posted on 10/30/2006 12:11:42 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: MadIvan
Where's the facilities for Dolphins?

From the South Park episode Mr Garrisons Fancy New Vagina

10 posted on 10/30/2006 12:22:58 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (This is a race for rubber ducks, not meat ducks! Product the tech! ~ Homer Simpson~)
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To: MadIvan

The Telegraph jumps right through his hoop and calls him "Ms." My biggest problem with this jackhole is that he's a Communist. Gah.


11 posted on 10/30/2006 12:25:23 AM PST by Rastus
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To: MadIvan
Doing an image search, this guy basically looks like a cross between Fran Drescher and Barbra Streisand:



In most other shots, he's basically Tracey Ullman.


12 posted on 10/30/2006 12:33:36 AM PST by Rastus
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To: MadIvan

I really hoped the Italians would have had more sense than to elect this freak. None of this would have been an issue...

*sigh*

Democracy in all of its grandeur and absurdity.


13 posted on 10/30/2006 12:42:43 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: MadIvan

That is how descendants of Roman Empire ended :)


14 posted on 10/30/2006 12:57:29 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: CheyennePress
I really hoped the Italians would have had more sense than to elect this freak. None of this would have been an issue...

Don’t expect any common sense from communist voters.

15 posted on 10/30/2006 1:02:14 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

Isn't it an assumption to state the people who live in Rome are descended from Romans?


16 posted on 10/30/2006 1:20:44 AM PST by wastoute
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To: MadIvan

Seems as I remember there was once a law making it illegal to impersonate a woman. Italians should pass a law like that and solve a lot of misunderstandings.


17 posted on 10/30/2006 1:26:19 AM PST by Dan Evans (.)
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To: wastoute

Rather joke.


18 posted on 10/30/2006 1:28:01 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: MadIvan
Vladimir Luxuria, 41, an MP for the Communist Refoundation party, was born a man but dresses in women's clothes and prefers to be addressed as a woman. She says she considers herself "neither male nor female".

Most countries sent their crazies to an asylum. The Italians sent theirs to parliment. Must be a trend. Can't help wondering if we had something to do with it.

19 posted on 10/30/2006 1:53:56 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MadIvan

The world is spinning faster and faster toward destruction. Even so, come Lord Jesus.


20 posted on 10/30/2006 2:27:30 AM PST by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Jaysun

We can't, but we are.


21 posted on 10/30/2006 2:28:54 AM PST by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: taxesareforever

Hogwash.


22 posted on 10/30/2006 2:29:45 AM PST by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: MadIvan; Diana in Wisconsin
In these -- ahem -- parts (Madison, Wisconsin), these are called "intersex restrooms."

Diana, do you know the current legal requirements?

And around here, we like to call it "Madistan," MadIvan.
;o)

23 posted on 10/30/2006 3:01:02 AM PST by Watery Tart (Madison -- 80 sq miles surrounded by reality.)
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To: MadIvan
This guy isn't transsexual. - He is transgendered.

If they are going to elect such freaks, they can at least refer to them by the proper name.

I wonder if Italy is gone past the point of no return to Western Civilization

24 posted on 10/30/2006 3:58:18 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: MadIvan

"...another Forza Italia MP, said: "If he undergoes the necessary operations and becomes a real woman."

No man has ever been successfully changed by an operation into a woman. That's a fact. It's bad enough some people choose to live a life of delusional fantasy.

It's worse when others who should know better support the absurdity.


25 posted on 10/30/2006 4:05:50 AM PST by olderwiser
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To: bill1952
He is transgendered.

I disagree; he's merely a transvestite. The reaction to him should be the same as the Mounties to the crossdressing lumberjack in the "Lumberjack Song".

Regards, Ivan

26 posted on 10/30/2006 4:45:28 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Rastus

If you see Tracey Ullman, coming at you, RUN! She'll be looking for revenge!


27 posted on 10/30/2006 4:47:30 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do haven't seen "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: All

Very interesting replies, excellent considerations and amusing humor!
Definitely Italian newspapers should report all your writings! Grazie to all!


28 posted on 10/30/2006 5:57:39 AM PST by bohemien
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To: Frwy

Super response./s


29 posted on 10/30/2006 10:21:00 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Watery Tart; MadIvan

"Diana, do you know the current legal requirements?"

No, it's not something I've ever looked into. I avoid public toilets when I'm in Madistan, LOL!

Actually I think both of the big Malls (East & West Towne) have "Family Bathrooms" where you can bring either sex child in with you in case Dad has the girl kid in tow that day and vice-versa.

At first, I also thought that no one but a disabled person could use those larger bathroom stalls; I thought cops would rush in and arrest you for doing so, LOL!

I don't get off the farm much, as you can probably tell.


30 posted on 10/30/2006 2:09:21 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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