Skip to comments.Muslim Rape? They Were Asking For It (Robert Spencer On Islam's Misogynism Alert)
Posted on 10/31/2006 3:07:12 AM PST by goldstategop
The Mufti of Australia, Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali, has gained international attention this week by saying that women are generally at fault if they are raped. Speaking to a Muslim audience in Sydney, he explained that rape (specifically, zina, sexual activity forbidden under Islamic law -- a word mistranslated in published accounts of the Sheikhs words as adultery) is 90 percent the womans responsibility. Why? Because a woman owns the weapon of seduction. Its she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us, dallying. Its she who shortens, raises and lowers. Then, its a look, a smile, a conversation, a greeting, a talk, a date, a meeting, a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years.
Al-Hilali invoked another Islamic scholar in support of his views: But when it comes to this disaster, who started it? In his literature, writer al-Rafee says, if I came across a rape crime, I would discipline the man and order that the woman be jailed for life. Why would you do this, Rafee? He said because if she had not left the meat uncovered, the cat wouldnt have snatched it. If you get a kilo of meat, and you dont put it in the fridge or in the pot or in the kitchen but you leave it on a plate in the backyard, and then you have a fight with the neighbour because his cats eat the meat, youre crazy. Isnt this true? If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meats? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldnt roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they wont get it. If the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if shes wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters dont happen.
In the uproar that followed, Muslim leaders in Australia and elsewhere distanced themselves from Al-Hilali. Ali Roude of the New South Wales Islamic Council declared that Al-Hilali had failed both himself and the Muslim community As a father, brother and son myself, I take offence at the portrayal of both men and women in the alleged published comments.
Yet at the same time, Al-Hilali had defenders. Abduljalil Sajid of the Muslim Council of Britain said that al-Hilalis remarks had been taken out of context, and affirmed that loose women like prostitutes encourage immorality in men. As for al-Hilali, Sajid said that he is a great scholar and he has a great knowledge of Islamic jurisprudence .I respect his views. His intentions are noble in order to make morality and modesty part of our overall society.
It was also somewhat surprising that Al-Hilalis remarks generated any uproar at all. After all, the idea that a woman is responsible if she is raped did not originate with him, and this was not the first time it has been enunciated in the West. One notorious example occurred in September 2004 in Denmark, when the mufti Shahid Mehdi of the Islamic Cultural Center in Copenhagen said on the Danish television program Talk to Gode that women who venture outside without a hijab are asking for rape.
Australian Muslim moderate leader Tanveer Ahmed acknowledged that in a large number of Muslim households, young men will be taught that white women are cheap and easy. It is extrapolated to a much bigger scale, for it symbolises for them a moral corruption endemic in free societies, the kind they believe has led to a breakdown in families. Their views have some overlap with social conservatives in general, who see human freedoms, especially with regard to sexuality, as having gone too far.
Even more significantly, Ahmed conceded that what Hilali says is consistent with a strict, conservative interpretation of Islam. This remains the fundamental difficulty with Islam's attempts to sit with modernity. As long as Muslims view their religion as sitting above history and culture -- with the Koran as the literal word of God, which in their view makes Islam undebatable -- there will always be Hilalis who can point to certain texts and argue for a social and legal structure consistent with 7th-century Arabia .This is a man who knows the Koran in intimate detail and his views are consistent with a strict reading of the Muslim holy book.
They are also, unfortunately, consistent with the example of Muhammad, Islams prophet, as I show in my new book The Truth About Muhammad. The Quran tells men: And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess (4:24) -- that is, slave girls who are considered the spoils of war. All too often in Western countries, particularly in Europes restive Muslim enclaves, young Muslim men have understood this as permitting the rape of non-Muslim women who venture out uncovered -- in accord with Shahid Mehdis statement.
Whats more, in traditional Islamic law rape cannot be established except by the testimony of four male witnesses who saw the act, as stipulated by Quran 24:4 and 24:13. Consequently, it is even today virtually impossible to prove rape in lands that follow the dictates of the Sharia. Unscrupulous men can commit rape with impunity: as long as they deny the charge and there are no witnesses, they get off scot-free, because the victims account is inadmissible. Even worse, if a woman accuses a man of rape, she may end up incriminating herself. If the required male witnesses cant be found, the victims charge of rape becomes an admission of adultery. That accounts for the grim fact that as many as seventy-five percent of the women in prison in Pakistan are, in fact, behind bars for the crime of being a victim of rape.[i] Several high-profile cases in Nigeria recently have also revolved around rape accusations being turned around by Islamic authorities into charges of fornication, resulting in death sentences that were only modified after international pressure.[ii]
In light of all this, al-Hilalis remarks should not be surprising -- but they should continue to be cause for concern. For they illustrate the fact that the clash of civilizations isnt just taking place in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places where the warriors of jihad are fighting today. It is taking place right at home, in Western countries where our deeply-held cultural values are being subjected to an increasingly forthright and assertive challenge. If we do not defend them now, it is those who agree with Sheikh al-Hilali who will determine the mores of the future.
[i] See Sisters in Islam, Rape, Zina, and Incest, April 6, 2000, http://www.muslimtents.com/sistersinislam/resources/sdefini.htm.
[ii] See Stephen Faris, In Nigeria, A Mother Faces Execution, www.africana.com, January 7, 2002.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Aren't they just the most peaceful folks you ever want to meet?
My wife tells me of an encounter she had with a muzzie doctor (neurologist) when she was still with her first husband.
Damned a**hole (doctor) would not speak directly to her, only thru the husband! She thought it was rude when she told me, until I informed her that's the way muzzies treat their women and women in general....
Doctor diagnosed her with MS (wrongly) and would not release her medical records when she applied for SS disability UNTIL I asked for them!!!!
At one time, I wanted to visit Paris. I wouldn't go there now if they payed me. Same goes for New Orleans.
Three newly married women were chatting one day.:-)
The American lady said, "I told my boyfriend that I wanted a nice house in the suburbs, a new SUV and a big diamond, or I wouldn't marry him.
One week went by, I didn't see him.
Two weeks, I didn't see him.
Finally, on the third week - he showed up with a diamond, an SUV and a home in the suburbs and we're happy together now.
The Asian lady said, "Oh it was similar for me too! I told my fiancee that I wanted an apartment in Tokyo. One week went by I didn't see him. Two weeks, I didn't see him. The third week he shows up at my door with flowers, we made up and we're happy together."
The Muslim lady said, "It was similar for me too! I told my boyfriend I didn't want to wear a Burkha. One week went by, I didn't see him. Two weeks went by, I didn't see him. By the third week the swelling in my left eye went down enough...
In the same sense, Muslims will be 95% responsible for their own destruction. No wait, that one's true.
they are called "youth", in Eurabia.
I had to go to a doctor while living in Saudi Arabia. He came in the room, but I was on a table behind a screen with a female nurse. The nurse did the exam, related the info to the doctor (who never saw me much less talked to me), wrote a prescription and left the room.
Mass sexual assault in downtown Cairo
A few years back I was in a small, packed clinic waiting room, and there was a Muslim man who brought his pregnant wife, walked her, still hold her hand in a tight, controling manner to and from the bathroom, like she was a little girl. It made me sick.
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