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Muslim Rape? They Were Asking For It (Robert Spencer On Islam's Misogynism Alert)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25210 ^ | 10/31/2006 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 10/31/2006 3:07:12 AM PST by goldstategop

The Mufti of Australia, Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali, has gained international attention this week by saying that women are generally at fault if they are raped. Speaking to a Muslim audience in Sydney, he explained that rape (specifically, zina, sexual activity forbidden under Islamic law -- a word mistranslated in published accounts of the Sheikh’s words as “adultery”) is “90 percent the woman’s responsibility. Why? Because a woman owns the weapon of seduction. It’s she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us, dallying. It’s she who shortens, raises and lowers. Then, it’s a look, a smile, a conversation, a greeting, a talk, a date, a meeting, a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years.”

Al-Hilali invoked another Islamic scholar in support of his views: “But when it comes to this disaster, who started it? In his literature, writer al-Rafee says, if I came across a rape crime, I would discipline the man and order that the woman be jailed for life. Why would you do this, Rafee? He said because if she had not left the meat uncovered, the cat wouldn’t have snatched it. If you get a kilo of meat, and you don’t put it in the fridge or in the pot or in the kitchen but you leave it on a plate in the backyard, and then you have a fight with the neighbour because his cats eat the meat, you’re crazy. Isn’t this true? If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meat’s? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldn’t roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won’t get it. If the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if she’s wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters don’t happen.”

In the uproar that followed, Muslim leaders in Australia and elsewhere distanced themselves from Al-Hilali. Ali Roude of the New South Wales Islamic Council declared that Al-Hilali had “failed both himself and the Muslim community…As a father, brother and son myself, I take offence at the portrayal of both men and women in the alleged published comments.”

Yet at the same time, Al-Hilali had defenders. Abduljalil Sajid of the Muslim Council of Britain said that al-Hilali’s remarks had been taken out of context, and affirmed that “loose women like prostitutes” encourage immorality in men. As for al-Hilali, Sajid said that “he is a great scholar and he has a great knowledge of Islamic jurisprudence….I respect his views. His intentions are noble in order to make morality and modesty part of our overall society.”

It was also somewhat surprising that Al-Hilali’s remarks generated any uproar at all. After all, the idea that a woman is responsible if she is raped did not originate with him, and this was not the first time it has been enunciated in the West. One notorious example occurred in September 2004 in Denmark, when the mufti Shahid Mehdi of the Islamic Cultural Center in Copenhagen said on the Danish television program Talk to Gode that women who venture outside without a hijab are “asking for rape.”

Australian Muslim moderate leader Tanveer Ahmed acknowledged that “in a large number of Muslim households, young men will be taught that white women are cheap and easy. It is extrapolated to a much bigger scale, for it symbolises for them a moral corruption endemic in free societies, the kind they believe has led to a breakdown in families. Their views have some overlap with social conservatives in general, who see human freedoms, especially with regard to sexuality, as having gone too far.”

Even more significantly, Ahmed conceded that “what Hilali says is consistent with a strict, conservative interpretation of Islam. This remains the fundamental difficulty with Islam's attempts to sit with modernity. As long as Muslims view their religion as sitting above history and culture -- with the Koran as the literal word of God, which in their view makes Islam undebatable -- there will always be Hilalis who can point to certain texts and argue for a social and legal structure consistent with 7th-century Arabia….This is a man who knows the Koran in intimate detail and his views are consistent with a strict reading of the Muslim holy book.”

They are also, unfortunately, consistent with the example of Muhammad, Islam’s prophet, as I show in my new book The Truth About Muhammad. The Qur’an tells men: “And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess” (4:24) -- that is, slave girls who are considered the spoils of war. All too often in Western countries, particularly in Europe’s restive Muslim enclaves, young Muslim men have understood this as permitting the rape of non-Muslim women who venture out uncovered -- in accord with Shahid Mehdi’s statement.

What’s more, in traditional Islamic law rape cannot be established except by the testimony of four male witnesses who saw the act, as stipulated by Qur’an 24:4 and 24:13. Consequently, it is even today virtually impossible to prove rape in lands that follow the dictates of the Sharia. Unscrupulous men can commit rape with impunity: as long as they deny the charge and there are no witnesses, they get off scot-free, because the victim’s account is inadmissible. Even worse, if a woman accuses a man of rape, she may end up incriminating herself. If the required male witnesses can’t be found, the victim’s charge of rape becomes an admission of adultery. That accounts for the grim fact that as many as seventy-five percent of the women in prison in Pakistan are, in fact, behind bars for the crime of being a victim of rape.[i] Several high-profile cases in Nigeria recently have also revolved around rape accusations being turned around by Islamic authorities into charges of fornication, resulting in death sentences that were only modified after international pressure.[ii]

In light of all this, al-Hilali’s remarks should not be surprising -- but they should continue to be cause for concern. For they illustrate the fact that the clash of civilizations isn’t just taking place in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places where the warriors of jihad are fighting today. It is taking place right at home, in Western countries where our deeply-held cultural values are being subjected to an increasingly forthright and assertive challenge. If we do not defend them now, it is those who agree with Sheikh al-Hilali who will determine the mores of the future.

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[i] See Sisters in Islam, “Rape, Zina, and Incest,” April 6, 2000, http://www.muslimtents.com/sistersinislam/resources/sdefini.htm.

[ii] See Stephen Faris, “In Nigeria, A Mother Faces Execution,” www.africana.com, January 7, 2002.


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The Religion Of Peace is not very hospitable to women. It is patriachal, sexist and misogynist. Muslim men are permitted to abuse their wives, rape women at will and rape non-Muslim women if they go out uncovered in public. Lo and behold the true face of Islam!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 10/31/2006 3:07:13 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Lo and behold the true face of Islam!

Aren't they just the most peaceful folks you ever want to meet?

My wife tells me of an encounter she had with a muzzie doctor (neurologist) when she was still with her first husband.

Damned a**hole (doctor) would not speak directly to her, only thru the husband! She thought it was rude when she told me, until I informed her that's the way muzzies treat their women and women in general....

Doctor diagnosed her with MS (wrongly) and would not release her medical records when she applied for SS disability UNTIL I asked for them!!!!

2 posted on 10/31/2006 3:27:44 AM PST by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: goldstategop

3 posted on 10/31/2006 3:30:05 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

At one time, I wanted to visit Paris. I wouldn't go there now if they payed me. Same goes for New Orleans.


4 posted on 10/31/2006 3:33:38 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: dirtbiker
Actually, we are all more similar than you think...
Three newly married women were chatting one day.
An American.
An Asian.
A Muslim.

The American lady said, "I told my boyfriend that I wanted a nice house in the suburbs, a new SUV and a big diamond, or I wouldn't marry him.
One week went by, I didn't see him.
Two weeks, I didn't see him.
Finally, on the third week - he showed up with a diamond, an SUV and a home in the suburbs and we're happy together now.

The Asian lady said, "Oh it was similar for me too! I told my fiancee that I wanted an apartment in Tokyo. One week went by I didn't see him. Two weeks, I didn't see him. The third week he shows up at my door with flowers, we made up and we're happy together."

The Muslim lady said, "It was similar for me too! I told my boyfriend I didn't want to wear a Burkha. One week went by, I didn't see him. Two weeks went by, I didn't see him. By the third week the swelling in my left eye went down enough...
:-)
5 posted on 10/31/2006 3:37:20 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: goldstategop

In the same sense, Muslims will be 95% responsible for their own destruction. No wait, that one's true.


6 posted on 10/31/2006 4:13:50 AM PST by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: Bon mots

they are called "youth", in Eurabia.


7 posted on 10/31/2006 4:26:17 AM PST by PRePublic
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To: dirtbiker

I had to go to a doctor while living in Saudi Arabia. He came in the room, but I was on a table behind a screen with a female nurse. The nurse did the exam, related the info to the doctor (who never saw me much less talked to me), wrote a prescription and left the room.


8 posted on 10/31/2006 4:34:46 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: goldstategop

Mass sexual assault in downtown Cairo

http://forsoothsayer.blogspot.com/2006/10/mass-sexual-assault-in-downtown-cairo.html


9 posted on 10/31/2006 4:39:17 AM PST by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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10 posted on 10/31/2006 5:08:24 AM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: dirtbiker

A few years back I was in a small, packed clinic waiting room, and there was a Muslim man who brought his pregnant wife, walked her, still hold her hand in a tight, controling manner to and from the bathroom, like she was a little girl. It made me sick.


11 posted on 10/31/2006 5:36:14 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Bon mots

Funny! :)


12 posted on 10/31/2006 6:00:48 AM PST by moonman (`)
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To: goldstategop
Fear not, citizen! Islam is a "religion of peace"! Here! Read this free book and get in step with the "in" crowd!


13 posted on 10/31/2006 7:40:22 AM PST by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: goldstategop
Maybe if Western men started raping chador-wearing women... because those clothes make them too irresistible, of course... then Mooslimes might wake up and smell the hypocrisy.

Just a thought.
14 posted on 10/31/2006 2:08:34 PM PST by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breathe some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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