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Gun Laws and Sudden Death: Did the Australian Firearms Legislation of 1996 Make a Difference?
British Journal of Criminology ^ | October 18, 2006 | Jeanine Baker and Samara Mcphedran

Posted on 10/31/2006 4:10:45 PM PST by neverdem

Abstract

Mass murders in Dunblane, United Kingdom, and Port Arthur, Australia, provoked rapid responses from the governments of both countries. Major changes to Australian laws resulted in a controversial buy-back of longarms and tighter legislation. The Australian situation enables evaluation of the effect of a national buy-back, accompanied by tightened legislation in a country with relatively secure borders. AutoRegressive Integrated Moving Average (ARIMA) was used to predict future values of the time series for homicide, suicide and accidental death before and after the 1996 National Firearms Agreement (NFA). When compared with observed values, firearm suicide was the only parameter the NFA may have influenced, although societal factors could also have influenced observed changes. The findings have profound implications for future firearm legislation policy direction.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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Sorry folks, but you have to pay for the whole article.

You don't need a firearm to commit suicide. So with essentially negative results, I'm surprised that they decided to publish. Rebecca Peters, go cry in your beer.

1 posted on 10/31/2006 4:10:46 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Joe Brower
BANG!
2 posted on 10/31/2006 4:12:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Rebecca Peters, go cry in your beer.

Beer is for real people. She's probably more of a whine and cheese type.

3 posted on 10/31/2006 4:14:19 PM PST by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: neverdem

When you disarm the law-abiding public, only criminals your "govenment" have guns. What does that say??

And the liberals just continue to work hard at inventing rules that criminals will obey. Idiot morons.


4 posted on 10/31/2006 4:18:01 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
I'm all in favor of giving every Australian woman a pistol, 1000 rounds, and free training. Let's see Hilaly's boyos try to enforce sharia on the beach then.
5 posted on 10/31/2006 4:57:55 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: neverdem

Gary Kleck did an exhaustive study on the relationship between availability of firearms and suicide rate. Bottom line: there is no relationship. Only effect is on what methods people use to commit suicide, not on how many people do it. Substitution factor is 100%.


6 posted on 10/31/2006 5:00:10 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: neverdem

"You don't need a firearm to commit suicide."

Japan doesn't allow private ownership of firearms at all, but still has the highest suicide rate in the world.


7 posted on 10/31/2006 5:15:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Japan has a high suicide rate, but it's not the highest. Actually it's not even in the top ten.

http://www.aneki.com/suicide.html


8 posted on 10/31/2006 5:28:25 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: neverdem
So with essentially negative results, I'm surprised that they decided to publish

"Publish or perish." Even though the results are negative, if it's a good-quality study, it's publishable. Since it got past the peer reviewers, it's a better than even chance it's quality research.

9 posted on 10/31/2006 5:41:43 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: JoeFromSidney

So, making guns very much harder to own, and essentially available for the government to confiscate at any time, had no effect on sudden death.

This is pretty much the result expected, although I might have thought an increase in crime would bias it somewhat in the other direction.

There is no implication for policy, however, as the aim of the legislation was never to reduce sudden deaths, but rather to prevent the population from being armed.


10 posted on 10/31/2006 6:31:16 PM PST by marktwain
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To: JoeFromSidney

The abstract implies that the legislation passed in '96 authorizing the buy back program and other laws was ineffective in reducing homocides. At least that's what I got out of it. Someone will publish the whole study online soon and then we can read it for ourselves.


11 posted on 10/31/2006 6:31:18 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: elmer fudd
"Japan has a high suicide rate, but it's not the highest. Actually it's not even in the top ten."

Yes, but all of those in the top 10 are former "east block" except for Finnland, and Finnland was under heavy Soviet influence.

It is not as though we can obtain real data from North Korea, Cuba, or China.
12 posted on 10/31/2006 6:35:36 PM PST by marktwain
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw; El Gato; Joe Brower
Someone will publish the whole study online soon and then we can read it for ourselves.

Your wish is my command. I hope you don't mind opening a pdf in a new window.

Gun Laws and Sudden Death: Did the Australian Firearms Legislation of 1996 Make a Difference?

13 posted on 10/31/2006 6:44:30 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Not at all. thank you very much. I found this on page 12 to be of interest:

It should also be
noted that from an empirical perspective, the NFA regulated mechanisms of legal firearms
possession whereas evidence demonstrates that offenders are bypassing legal
methods of acquisition.

Who'd have thought that????


14 posted on 10/31/2006 6:58:53 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
I normally wouldn't bother everyone for just an abstract, but since I found the entire article and linked it in comment# 13, what the hey.

Japan's Big Fleet Exercise

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15 posted on 10/31/2006 8:33:09 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: GAB-1955
What, some Moo's have been thugging up Australian women at the beach for showing "uncovered arms"?
16 posted on 10/31/2006 9:15:52 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Japan doesn't allow private ownership of firearms at all, but still has the highest suicide rate in the world.

It's the high rents the zaiteku cross-ownership of real estate uses to vacuum up paychecks in the Japanese company-town environment.

Japanese can't get ahead unless they break into top management -- or become securities speculators or something.

17 posted on 10/31/2006 9:18:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
All of this is just cover. All these studies and protestations for the public welfare are simply an elaborate smoke screen for what the actual and true intent of these laws are -- to disarm the citizenry to enable easier government control.

When one understands the true agenda underlying this global push to provide governments with a monopoly on force, the pattern becomes all-too-clear.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

18 posted on 11/01/2006 6:40:44 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Joe Brower
When one understands the true agenda underlying this global push to provide governments with a monopoly on force, the pattern becomes all-too-clear.

Well said, well said. That's why I enjoy these posts.

19 posted on 11/01/2006 6:52:24 AM PST by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: Joe Brower

Some time in the early 80s, I attended a speech by the late Arkady Shevchenko, then the highest ranking Soviet official to defect to the West. He had been their top guy at the UN.

He spoke, interestingly, at KENNESAW COLLEGE -- and we all know what Kennesaw is famous for! I’m proud to have played a a small role in helping Mayor Darvin Purdy get that legislation through the Kennesaw City Council.

His talk dealt with the clear intent of the leadership of the old Soviet Union to somehow take America. He mentioned their ICBMs and the nuclear blackmail threat they posed.

Then he broke from his prepared remarks and offered the audience this wisdom:

"The leaders of my country are as AFRAID OF YOUR 200 MILLION PRIVATE FIREARMS as they are of your ICBMs. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS."

Frankly -- and, while he had to be careful as he was under FBI protection at the time, Shevchenko alluded to this in his remarks -- I'm as concerned about some domestic tyrant (say, a Hillary, Barack HUSSEIN Obama or Chuck Schumer) as I am about some foreign enemy.

And it is THAT threat about which the Founding Fathers were concerned that prompted them to leave us the Second Amendment.

The BIG question is: WILL WE KEEP IT?




20 posted on 11/01/2006 6:52:46 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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