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Did Kerry slip? I don't think so.
sizzlemeister

Posted on 10/31/2006 10:29:20 PM PST by sizzlemeister

Perhaps this has been stated elsewhere, and if so I apologize for rehashing it here, but I thought this questioned deserved a separate discussion.

Did John F. Kerry, Vietnam veteran, actually slip up today? Obviously this is the excuse being sold by the Kerry people, the DNC, and the MSM. And I see some FReepers are buying into it, and a lot of the Conservative media, blogs, etc. are going along with it.

I do not buy it. If Kerry and his crew slipped, it was in believing the dubiously French-looking one could get away with saying something like this. I think he underestimated the efficiency and scope of the "new media". It's a perfectly rational statement for a liberal when viewed in its context: he's speaking to college kids at a California Democrat's rally. Back in the day politicians were protected inside such a bubble; especially in California, especially on a college campus, and especially at a Democrat rally.

"Evidence" of the "slip" could easily have been whipped up in a few minutes - just skip to the page in the "Angelides rally speech" file (assuming this "speech" were truly prepared ahead of time), adjust the copy, hit save, and print it out. Who would know? I would imagine even the FBI would have a difficult time proving the speech copy were altered since:
1. The speech, if it preexisted, and if it were printed out ahead of time, was most likely printed from a portable printer connected to a Kerry aide's laptop.
2. There are some very easy tricks to remove traces of a file being modified, at least in Windows.

Like network news, like MSM daily newspapers, like MSM magazines, they have all underestimated the "new media" again. I think this may be the last time anyone underestimates the "new media" and its power - for better or worse. And this raises another issue: eventually when the Democrats seize power again in Washington they will put their foot down on this terribly pesky "new media" just like they're trying to put their foot down on talk-radio.

I do not think it's wise to give Kerry the benefit of the doubt here. In fact, given the possibilities, I think it's dangerous. This was no slip, but an awfully painful wake-up call for liberal Democrats.


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To: sizzlemeister
Skerry is a R-A-T
21 posted on 10/31/2006 11:06:42 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: goresalooza

Yeah, it was just a slip.

Just like when he slipped up and accidently said our troops are murderers, that they burn down villages, attach electrical cables to genitalia, kill indiscriminately, etc...that's it - it's just a slip of the tongue.....


22 posted on 10/31/2006 11:09:33 PM PST by Wil H
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To: sizzlemeister

Coming to work today has been interesting. I am one of those "didn't work hard in school, didn't get a good education, ended up in the military types" and everyone around me is too. They are really fired up about this. A lot just find it humorous in a stupid kind of way that Kerry would even open his mouth about military service after he went in front of congress years back and gave his traitorous comments about the military back then. Most are just pissed that he would use his elitist ways to poison another generation of college students in this manner. Hopefully those college students will learn a lesson from this event. I am glad that the democrats are backing away from Kerry and his stupidity. Many will cancel their appearances with him and a good many may denounce the stupid comments. Just an observation from a guy who "had no other option than join the military" from the words of John Kerry.


23 posted on 10/31/2006 11:14:56 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Wil H

"Just like when he slipped up and accidently said our troops are murderers, that they burn down villages, attach electrical cables to genitalia, kill indiscriminately, etc...that's it - it's just a slip of the tongue....."

Right, Wil...just a slip like when he said our troops were breaking into homes in Iraq, going after "children and kids"....oh yeah. Never mind that the troops are busting down doors looking for terrorist thugs.

yawn EFFING kerry is toast.



24 posted on 10/31/2006 11:18:49 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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"eventually when the Democrats seize power again in Washington they will put their foot down on this terribly pesky "new media" just like they're trying to put their foot down on talk-radio."


And then the Conservative half of this country will come after them with Pitchforks and Torches and toss them out of power (hopefully for good).
25 posted on 10/31/2006 11:19:30 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: sizzlemeister

The notion that John Kerry is a war hero is laughable. So basically if you are forced against your will to spend a few months in Vietnam, get a little shrapnel lodged in your skin, recieve some purple hearts that you then throw away, come home and demean your country and your fellow soldiers by calling them rapists and murderers, then spend the rest of your life criticizing the military and the commander in chief, you are a war hero!! I want to throw up every time he opens his mouth.

He is liar through and through. His statement was not a botched joke, and he is not a victim of the republicans. He is the dumb ass that said our military men and women are uneducated. While persuing a degree in Electrical Engineering, I was asked to join the military and offered nice benefits to do so. I didn't join, but I know for a fact that there are many college-educated soldiers that didn't join the millitary because they are stupid, or didn't have any other option. I don't agree with everything that Bush does and says, but he is the leader of your nation and MUST be followed. Honest criticism is healthy, but to bash him for political gain is un-american and is treasonous.


26 posted on 10/31/2006 11:22:36 PM PST by vegasdem
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To: Dallas59

I totally agree.


27 posted on 10/31/2006 11:22:36 PM PST by vegasdem
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To: sizzlemeister

I don't believe he planned it. He was talking to a friendly crowd who might take the path he has taken and was speaking candidly.

His contempt for our Servicemen is in his DNA and still potent and his feelings slipped out.


28 posted on 10/31/2006 11:32:28 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: sizzlemeister
Only the Democrats know what the polls are really saying. So, at the last moment before the election they are trying to divide the nation. This time they screwed the pooch. Next Wednesday will be a black day for the Dems and MSM.
29 posted on 10/31/2006 11:39:04 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: sizzlemeister

TELL IT LIKE IT IS, KERRYDUDE

30 posted on 11/01/2006 12:21:46 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Let's all be Magnificent Bastards. Turn out those Republican votes!)
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To: sizzlemeister

Kerry knew what he was saying. He smiled after delivering the punch line and waited for the laughter before continuing. Of course, Kerry has a history of stabbing the troops in the back. His false Senate testimony when he was dressed as a hippie, then later on, as a senator, covering up evidence of MIA's in Indochina to the point of shredding documents. This piece of human garbage is not worth the powder it would take to blow him away.


31 posted on 11/01/2006 12:37:44 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: sizzlemeister

Did he 'slip' when he testified about Vietnam before Congress in 1971?

Did he 'slip' when he accused our troops of terrorizing women and children in Iraq in late 2005?

There was no slip, and no 'failed joke'. Kerry opened his mouth, and the filth that spewed forth was vintage Kerry.

The only question that remains is will he put in for a Purple Heart after this self inflicted wound to his party in '06 and his '08 Presidential hopes?


32 posted on 11/01/2006 12:44:59 AM PST by Reform4Bush
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To: All; sizzlemeister

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JOHN KERRY =


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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33 posted on 11/01/2006 1:20:16 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: napscoordinator
A lot just find it humorous in a stupid kind of way that Kerry would even open his mouth about military service after he went in front of congress years back and gave his traitorous comments about the military back then.

This is what gets me too. The MSM unerringly brings up the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and say their allegations against Kerry were "unsubstantiated." What about Kerry's allegations back in 1971? Was anybody prosecuted for all those war crimes he described? Weren't some of the people Kerry joined with for the Winter Soldier presentation certifiably phony? How come HIS 'unsubstantiated allegations' get a pass?

34 posted on 11/01/2006 2:09:16 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Dixie Chicks: "We're Not Ready To Make Sense!")
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To: sizzlemeister
One bonesman helping another. </sarc
35 posted on 11/01/2006 2:11:27 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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36 posted on 11/01/2006 2:16:17 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: sizzlemeister
Kerry said what he really thinks. He just can't believe what he really thinks can cause such a firestorm. This man lives in an elitist vacuum. Look at his history, he has never seen how any of his own actions might be construed by others.
37 posted on 11/01/2006 3:06:31 AM PST by Misschuck
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To: Mobile Vulgus
How can ANYONE doubt that John Francios Kerry absolutley meant to call our troops uneducated idiots? He absolutely MEANT to call our troops idiots.

You make an excellent point. After reading your post, I remembered that the left has been saying all along that the troops in Iraq ended up there because the economy is so bad that they can't get any other job. He was talking directly to them, and affirming their thinking. He really DID mean it the way it came out, and now he's back pedaling.

38 posted on 11/01/2006 3:09:06 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: sizzlemeister

OK, he botched the joke. I wonder what the RIGHT version sounds like.


39 posted on 11/01/2006 3:37:33 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: sizzlemeister

You are exactly right. He did mean it, all you have to do is check out his history. He hated our troops then and he hates them now. He just figured that everyone at that college agrees with him and felt safe exposing his true feelings.


40 posted on 11/01/2006 3:42:03 AM PST by dforest (tired of the BS)
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