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U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. demos economical fuel for deisel and gas engine (Video link)
http://www.ussec.us/index.php?page=87 ^ | 10/31/2006 | USSE

Posted on 11/01/2006 11:38:10 AM PST by Rodm

U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. Announces an International Live Web Broadcast, Demonstration and Validation of Its Blockbuster Technology and Unique Biofuels at City Hall in Vidalia, LA Monday October 30, 10:20 am ET

Company Partners With Multicast Media Technologies, Inc. and Akamai Technologies, Inc. to Offer Global Live Satellite-to-Internet Viewing of This Historic Event

NATCHEZ, MS--(MARKET WIRE)--Oct 30, 2006 -- U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. (Other OTC:LFZA.PK - News) ("USSEC") today announced that it will offer a live Internet broadcast of the previously announced demonstration and validation of its technology to be shown live at 11:00 CST am on Oct. 31st, 2006. Streaming video will come direct from City Hall in Vidalia, LA as the event unfolds. Interested parties can view this live event while it unfolds simply by visiting our direct weblink: http://www.ussec.us/lastellalighting/

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biofuels; energy; greenenergy; greenpower; renewenergy
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To: Rodm

Even better.


51 posted on 11/01/2006 12:33:36 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: An Old Man
As the yields became smaller everyone thought the solution might lie in farming more acerage.

Those were the days where we didn't understand the necesity of crop rotation, nitrogen fixing, etc, whereas we do nowadays, so that logic is faulty. Farmers produce 2-3 times per acre over what they could years ago.

52 posted on 11/01/2006 12:33:48 PM PST by Toby06 (Happy camper.)
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To: Rodm
Anyone know of an auto manufacturer with plans to bring any
sort of bio/diesel/hybrid to market in the next few years?
53 posted on 11/01/2006 12:38:19 PM PST by Zman
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To: Rodm

A lot of what this company is hyping makes me think "scam".

1. "Reported to made 5 gallons of fuel per bushel of soy beans. Cost less than 50 cents a gallon."
Soybeans are trading at around $6.50-$7.00 per bushel right now, so 5 gallons per bushel is a lot more than 50 cents per gallon unless there is quite the market for byproducts.

2. From the USSEC website
"U.S. Sustainable Energy further announced that it has partnered with Multicast Media Technologies, Inc. ("Multicast"), a leading provider of Internet broadcast products and services, and Akamai Technologies, Inc., the leading global service provider for accelerating content and business processes online. Through this partnership, USSEC will leverage Multicast's comprehensive digital media communication solution that includes live satellite-to-Internet broadcasting and the global reach, reliability and security of Akamai's online content delivery network."

If you are an energy business and are able to produce fuels so cheaply, why the need to partner with a communication company (why is it so necessary to hype the product? maybe to prop up the stock prices?)

I believe I'll pass on investing in USSEC, maybe those who do so will be laughing at me when they retire on their profits, but I think time will show this to be more hype than substance.


54 posted on 11/01/2006 12:38:45 PM PST by 3Lean
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To: Rodm

If we continue at this rate... we might actually use all of this science we have to produce an affordable and environmentally friendly energy alternative in the next 5 to 10 years.

It's about dang time... I guess there actually was a silver lining to $3.00 a gallon gas prices!


55 posted on 11/01/2006 12:45:10 PM PST by RRomo (Don't let it stop here!)
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To: 3Lean

I guess we'll know in about 10 weeks when they are suppose to have a first 24,000 gallon per day unit on-line.


56 posted on 11/01/2006 12:48:30 PM PST by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: Recon Dad; Toby06

you are both correct, and it is a pleasure to have this discussion with you folks.


57 posted on 11/01/2006 12:48:44 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
"at best it'll be a niche market"

Right now I can buy 100% biofuel to burn at home for a few cents less per gallon than oil. It's 100% renewable and made in the USA.
58 posted on 11/01/2006 12:49:37 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: RRomo

I've been hearing this for decades. perhaps someday someone will perfect the sterling engine or some such. But if I had a gallon of gas for every time I heard the next greatest, most environmentally friendly, cheapest fuel alternative that came across my desk I'd retire tomorrow.

so since I've heard teh cry of "wolf" for so long, it'll take much more convincing to do to get me on board.

sorry, I just been here before.


59 posted on 11/01/2006 12:53:30 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Maringa

A bushel is a volume measure equal roughly to 9.3 gallons; this company claims to turn 5 gallons of that into burnable fuel oil (~60 pounds weight).

They also claim to have a market for the other 25-28 pounds of material as fertilizer, etc.


60 posted on 11/01/2006 12:55:00 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: taxed2death

knock yerself out. buy all the biofuel that you want - I'll never stop you. I tried it once and it ruined my engine. so it will be a along time before I run that risk again - if ever.


61 posted on 11/01/2006 12:55:01 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Recon Dad

The whole barrel if you burn it in a bunker.


62 posted on 11/01/2006 12:57:08 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: camle

Off by a factor of five at least, gonna take your calculator away.


63 posted on 11/01/2006 12:58:40 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Bryan24
>>>.....1 acre to supply fuel for 1 vehicle for 50 weeks.<<<

How much diesel fuel does the tractor cultivating the soybeans burn cultivating that acre. Subtract that out to get your net left for your car..

64 posted on 11/01/2006 1:00:01 PM PST by HardStarboard (Hey illegals, march some more - its helping get the wall built!)
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To: camle

A bit less than a peck.


65 posted on 11/01/2006 1:00:09 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: camle
cheapest fuel alternative

When you begin to factor in things like 9/11, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc....many new fuels look damn cheap.
66 posted on 11/01/2006 1:00:19 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

been hearing this for a long time too. seems that ever since the 73 crises, these new 'miracle fuels' come out every so often. I have no objection, I've just heard the same old stuff so many times that I fail to beleive any of it.


67 posted on 11/01/2006 1:02:06 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Old Professer

you say 'peck'. that reminds me of Lurch, the biggest peckerhead I know.


68 posted on 11/01/2006 1:02:52 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Toby06

At the end of the video, they brought out a vial of #2 diesel and a vial of his soy fuel; the diesel was pure wax while the other fuel was still a liquid. Both vials had been sitting in a cooler on a chunk of dry ice.


69 posted on 11/01/2006 1:05:55 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: camle
seems that ever since the 73 crises

This stuff has been around for a great many decades, it just was not practical so long as oil got all of the government support. Now that this practice has bit us in the ass enough times, the tide turns.
70 posted on 11/01/2006 1:09:46 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: 3Lean

You missed that he said .50 a gallon AFTER selling the fertilizer and an unmentioned natural gas product produced in the process.


71 posted on 11/01/2006 1:10:14 PM PST by RRomo (Don't let it stop here!)
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To: Zman
bio/diesel/hybrid to market in the next few years?

I know of some in Europe but am not sure about the US.
72 posted on 11/01/2006 1:11:52 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

"When you begin to factor in things like 9/11, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc....many new fuels look damn cheap."

.....a point lost on most folks here.


73 posted on 11/01/2006 1:17:59 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: P-40

i've heard that too, I'll sit and watch this play itself out.


74 posted on 11/01/2006 1:20:25 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
I'll sit and watch

It's the American Way.
75 posted on 11/01/2006 1:23:27 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Rodm

Bookmarked to follow up on. Hope it is true.


76 posted on 11/01/2006 1:32:57 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: Rodm
I think the important thing to remember is using fuel that is independent from foreign oil. Another thing to remember is the US Dept. of Agriculture pays people to let there fields fallow, which is a total scam IMO. The idea would be to cut this off and bring these fields back into production. There are many things that could be done to cut the habit of oil, which funds terrorism.
77 posted on 11/01/2006 1:42:40 PM PST by Racer1
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To: Old Professer
Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again

The whole barrel if you burn it in a bunker.


Should I assume sarcasm just based on your missed spelled nom de plume?
78 posted on 11/01/2006 3:02:39 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: camle

This has been a fun discussion full of good information and hopefully a first look into a bright new source of fuel.


79 posted on 11/01/2006 3:05:20 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: camle
Currently the average per acre yield of biodiesel is around 40 bushels per acre. Yields have increased a lot over the years but not much in the last decade. They get about a gallon of biodiesel per bushel with current technology. That could change though. Bushels per acre corn yields have improved a lot over the years as have the number of gallons of ethanol plants get from a bushel of corn.

One thing you have to keep in mind though is that after they squeeze all the oil out of those soybeans, they still have a lot of high nutrition feed left over to sell. They get more from an acre of soybeans than just a little fuel.
80 posted on 11/01/2006 3:12:08 PM PST by TKDietz (")
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To: Bryan24
In tropic soy bean can yield twice per year. However oil palm is the preferred crop because they averagely produce 12,000 kg per year per acre of fruits at an oil extraction rate of 18%. This amount to 2160 kg of palm oil per acre. With conversion rate of 85% to biodiesel, it is 1836kg of biodiesel per acre per year. In S.E. Asia it is a hot investment item this year.
81 posted on 11/01/2006 3:13:15 PM PST by lyonel
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To: Rodm
A barrel of oil is 42 gallons. How much gasoline and diesel you get varies considerably, but it's a lot less than 40 gallons. I've read that on average we only get about 19 gallons of gasoline from a barrel of oil. I don't know if that is true or not, but I do know that a good bit of each barrel of oil is not converted into liquid fuel. A lot of it gets used for things like asphalt, plastics, etc.
82 posted on 11/01/2006 3:15:35 PM PST by TKDietz (")
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To: camle
"every acre devoted to the growth of fuel is an acre tqaken away from the growth of food."

That's not necessarily true. We export more corn for instance than we convert into ethanol. Much if it is dumped on foreign markets cheap. The Mexicans are raising a big stink about this now because our corn actually sells down there for less than what it costs for them to produce it themselves. We're putting Mexican farmers out of business, and they're getting all upset about it and talking about how "maize" is such an important part of their history and culture and how bad we are for dumping all this cheap corn on their markets. We will never come close to actually replacing all the fuel we burn in our cars with ethanol or biodiesel. We couldn't grow enough feedstock for that. But we aren't anywhere close to cutting into our food supply yet. We still have capacity to grow a lot more biofuel feedstock before that happens. As long as we don't overdo it we'll be fine and we'll be able to supplement our fuel supply, create lots of jobs, and keep more of our money here instead of sending it to crazy Arabs and evil dictators.
83 posted on 11/01/2006 3:29:08 PM PST by TKDietz (")
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To: Old Professer

This isn't typical biodiesel. I watched the video but it cut out before anything really got started.


84 posted on 11/01/2006 3:29:34 PM PST by Toby06 (Happy camper.)
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To: camle

Biodiesel isn't some snake oil, you could use it in your home furnace with no modifications.


85 posted on 11/01/2006 3:38:04 PM PST by Toby06 (Happy camper.)
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To: Recon Dad
>>This has been a fun discussion full of good information and hopefully a first look into a bright new source of fuel.

Indeed! IMHO biodiesel is the most promising of the biofuels. I'm surprised no one has mentioned algae as the most prolific crop for producing oil; it produces exponentially more usable oil than soy, palm, or rapeseed (algae produces between 5,000 and 15,000 gallons per acre/year). And it can be pond-cultivated in arid regions, thereby eliminating competition with productive farmland.

Won't happen anytime soon, but this guy thinks it's theoretically possible to replace all petroleum currently used in the U.S. for transportation purposes with homegrown biodiesel:

Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae

86 posted on 11/01/2006 4:48:46 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: TKDietz
We couldn't grow enough feedstock for that.

Not yet. :)
87 posted on 11/01/2006 5:04:40 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Texas Mulerider

Wow, had no clue. I've got a half acre of property that is just taken up by grass right now and if I dig a........

After trying to watch the entire 43 minutes of the streaming video I came to the conclusion that if in fact their plan really works the first thing they need to do is get some people out front to deliver the message. I like the home spun look of the demo, but they need marketing help very badly.


88 posted on 11/02/2006 3:44:35 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Recon Dad

Yup.


89 posted on 11/02/2006 7:28:20 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Toby06

The presenter would have been better off hiring the Oxy-clean guy.


90 posted on 11/02/2006 7:29:47 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

Marvelous! I unfortunately am plagued by a horrible case of naivete.


91 posted on 11/02/2006 11:49:37 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Recon Dad

Stock price down 40% today. Who woulda thought that!


92 posted on 11/02/2006 12:39:45 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

I can't imagine what it could be, but stocks and gambling are very similar. Somebody knows something.


93 posted on 11/02/2006 3:55:27 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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