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Kerry's Military Slap Recalls Vietnam(Never Forget!)
NewsMax.com ^ | Nov. 1, 2006 | staff

Posted on 11/02/2006 6:12:12 AM PST by kellynla

Sen. John Kerry responded to criticism of his remarks suggesting U.S. troops in Iraq are uneducated and not "smart” by asserting that he would never attack American servicemen.

Perhaps Kerry has forgotten statements he made as a spokesperson for Vietnam Veterans Against the War more than three decades ago.

Kerry touched off a storm of protest when he told a college audience on Monday that "if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

He tried to deflect outraged calls for an apology to U.S. troops on Tuesday by maintaining that his comments were a "botched joke,” adding: "If anybody thinks that a veteran would somehow criticize more than 140,000 troops serving in Iraq and not the president and his people who put them there, they’re crazy.”

He said later: "And for them to suggest that somebody who served their country, as I did, and has a record like I have in the United States Congress of standing up and fighting for the troops would ever, ever insult the troops is an insult in and of itself.”

But in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971, Kerry referred to soldiers in Vietnam who "told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war.”

Some have sought to defend Kerry by asserting that he was merely quoting reports from other soldiers, but it was Kerry himself who introduced those reports before the Committee.

And Kerry was not quoting other GIs when he testified: "We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs as well as by search and destroy missions, as well as by Vietcong terrorism, and yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the Vietcong . . .

"We learned the meaning of free fire zones, shooting anything that moves, and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of Orientals.”

He also alleged that "the torture of prisoners” was "accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam.”


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Kerry referred to soldiers in Vietnam who "told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war.”

"We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs as well as by search and destroy missions, as well as by Vietcong terrorism, and yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the Vietcong . . .

"We learned the meaning of free fire zones, shooting anything that moves, and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of Orientals.”

He also alleged that "the torture of prisoners” was "accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam.”


1 posted on 11/02/2006 6:12:13 AM PST by kellynla
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To: SandRat; freema; NormsRevenge

ping


2 posted on 11/02/2006 6:12:46 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I wonder if Jen-Jis Kahn ever dissed HIS troops?...........


3 posted on 11/02/2006 6:13:47 AM PST by Red Badger (ECCLESIASTES 10 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the fool to the LEFT.)
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To: kellynla

Jenkizz Kan would have made a saddle out of Kerry... LOL


4 posted on 11/02/2006 6:16:04 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: All
As a Marine Corps Viet Nam combat veteran who not only interrogated VC & NVA prisoners in the field but I also had access to confidential military intelligence; I can tell everyone unequivocally that Kerry's accusations were bald face LIES!

Semper Fi,
Kelly
5 posted on 11/02/2006 6:16:27 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

He that ass meant to ridicule Bush for being "uneducated", what does that make Kerry if Bush had better grades?


6 posted on 11/02/2006 6:17:28 AM PST by rbosque
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To: kellynla

Kerry should offer our troops support and prayers, rather than derision.


7 posted on 11/02/2006 6:17:36 AM PST by syriacus (MJ Fox tells the US, "Show me you love ME, baby, by giving up YOUR life for ME.")
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To: kellynla

In talking to liberals I see that they've adopted the strategy of calling anyone who "didn't get the joke, stupid." I guess they don't see the irony in that.


9 posted on 11/02/2006 6:23:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: kellynla

The people of Mass. and Illinois should be very ashamed of john kerry and dick durbin. These two (kerry and durbin) are nothing more than traitors giving 'aid and comfort' to the enemy while our young men and young women go out to meet the enemy on the field of battle. America's young men and young women serving this nation on that field of battle are the best and brightest amongst us. America's young men and young women are not Nazis. Yet these two senators (from Mass. and Illinois) believe these lies about our young men and young women serving in our nation's military, and spread these lies giving the enemy a speech platform from the halls of this nation's Congress. I can't imagine what better propaganda for the enemy than to have two US Senators to state and believe the lies of this nation's enemy. These senators deserve to be turned out by their fellow senators. Freedom of speech does not include 'aid and comfort' to the enemy.


10 posted on 11/02/2006 6:24:27 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: kellynla

Kerry is a LIAR, plain & simple. He can say he is sorry forever and it will never be enough. He should just get out of politics and do what he does best, spend his wife's money.


11 posted on 11/02/2006 6:24:31 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: kellynla
Kerry is finally "toast." However, that will only make the road easier for another democrat demon - like hillary clinton. So, the Devil will still have his way with top democrats.
12 posted on 11/02/2006 6:25:13 AM PST by ghostrider
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To: All; kellynla

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JOHN KERRY was against Freedom for others in South Vietnam long ago, so he killed it =


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


So what about ours now..?

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13 posted on 11/02/2006 6:25:35 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
For 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Since the TV and Cable newsrooms refuse to expose this traitor I will.
Odd how the internet and talk radio know he's a traitor
BUT the TV and Cable newsrooms won't "question his patriotism".

Only idiots would vote for a traitor.

My favorite post for DUmmies and trolls.

"I’m an internationalist. I’d like to see our troops dispersed through [sic] the world
only at the directive of the United Nations."
Hanoi John Kerry, The Harvard Crimson, 1970


HANOI KERRY
has a Campaign Platform
Just like the old days!


"It is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle.
We lost the war at home and at home John Kerry was the field general"

- Bob Elder, Swift Boat Veteran For Truth


"I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces,"
said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, chairman of the organization.
"This is not a political issue. It is a matter of honesty."


I was there the same time Hanoi Kerry was.
I served on the destroyer USS Corry DD-817 which supplied PCF's and PBR's
and gave gunfire support in North AND South Viet Nam.
My ship may have even supplied Hanoi Kerry's boat.
I VOW I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to keep this traitor from being elected.
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub



The book that Kerry
wishes would just go away.
HanoiJohnKerry.com is a blog with a primary purpose. That purpose is to counter the preposterous claims of Sen. John Forbes Kerry (D-MA) that he has any legitimate claim to any sort of "brotherhood" among combat veterans of the War in Vietnam.

While it is generally supposed that his service as a Naval officer on a "Swift Boat" in that theater was adequate and honorable, there is much to question regarding his readiness to allow the accolade "war hero" to be applied to him.

Likewise, it is not at all uncommon for more senior Naval officers to raise an eyebrow at the swiftness and relative comfort by which Lt. JG Kerry attained those medals, and who is available to vouch for the efficacy of his being awarded them (since, as boat commander, it would be his own task to make recommendation for awards for all personnel, including himself, on the Swift Boat).

But most egregious was his conduct, words and associations upon his early-out (from SEA) return to the USA and discharge from the US Navy. His leadership role with the radical pro-Communist (inaccurate to deem this group "anti-war") group called "Vietnam Veterans Against the [Vietnam] War" (hereafter VVAW).

It was while climbing the social and political ladder of the pro-Soviet Left as a principle of VVAW that John Kerry found his political soul-mate in Hanoi Jane Fonda. Granted, these politically formative years for Kerry were prior to the more outlandish acts of Fonda that earned her that name, but it is easily documentable that Fonda did not under go any radical transformation in belief or character from the time she and Kerry were working the same side of the street to the time she traveled to Hanoi, NVN and entered US history as the most overt traitor to ever NOT be charged, tried and executed.

John Kerry went to his own overt extremes to demonstrate that, politically, socially and in lowness of character, there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between he and Fonda. Thus, in the spirit of fairness and accuracy, we are reasonably certain that he will be agreeably flattered by calling him Hanoi John Kerry.

Here, testifying before the Fulbright Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is where John Kerry, spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, cemented his position and moniker as "Hanoi John" Kerry. This was the occasion where US troops still in the field in Vietnam learned from one of their FORMER brothers-in-arms that they were heinous murderers and war criminals. HJK would now like to call on them for support in his bid to be the new Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. Perhaps the most preposterous hypocrisy of all.





14 posted on 11/02/2006 6:25:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All; kellynla

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NEVER FORGET


The Words
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE


The Pictures
http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm


The Heroism
http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


NEVER FORGET


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15 posted on 11/02/2006 6:29:49 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Yup. When your enemy quotes you in the press and honors you in their war museum, it just might be a clue as to where your loyalties lay.


16 posted on 11/02/2006 6:29:59 AM PST by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: kellynla
Joke Repair Proposal #23

If you try to be smart in school, you can do well. If not, you get stuck in Nebraska...

17 posted on 11/02/2006 6:35:21 AM PST by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Calpernia; Republic; Doctor Raoul; Mo1; Angelwood; kristinn; reformjoy; conservogirl

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NEVER FORGET


"We must always affirm & our Military's Right to Vote, for after all...

they're the ones out there putting their LIVES on the line for that Right"



...Freeper "ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer, KNBC-TV Channel 4 News Interview - November 2000 'Count the Military Votes' 'Sore-Loserman' Los Angeles Freep Demonstration designed to stop Democrats from killing overseas Military Absentee Votes during the infamous Florida Vote Recount ...just to win.

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Historic Vietnam War Pictures)


NEVER FORGET

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18 posted on 11/02/2006 6:49:54 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: kellynla
He also testified that the idea there would be a bloodbath in south-east asia if we withdrew...was "an utter myth".

Nobody ever reminds him of how wrong he was, and the role he played in making it come about:


19 posted on 11/02/2006 6:50:20 AM PST by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Stashiu

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JOHN KERRY, who supports Freedom's Enemies, is at it again with our own Freedom at stake this time in a new time of war in a new Centrury with the Enemy just down the corner and up your street..!!!

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20 posted on 11/02/2006 6:52:11 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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