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Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program
NRO ^ | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 11/02/2006 8:09:04 PM PST by hipaatwo

When I saw the headline on Drudge earlier tonight, that the New York Times had a big story coming out tomorrow that had something to do with Iraq and WMDs, I was ready for an October November Surprise.

Well, Drudge is giving us the scoop. And if it's meant to be a slam-Bush story, I think the Times team may have overthunk this:

U.S. POSTING OF IRAQ NUKE DOCS ON WEB COULD HAVE HELPED IRAN...

NYT REPORTING FRIDAY, SOURCES SAY: Federal government set up Web site —
Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal — to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war; detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research; a 'basic guide to building an atom bomb'... Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency fear the information could help Iran develop nuclear arms... contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that the nuclear experts say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums...

Website now shut... Developing...

I'm sorry, did the New York Times just put on the front page that IRAQ HAD A NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM AND WAS PLOTTING TO BUILD AN ATOMIC BOMB?

What? Wait a minute. The entire mantra of the war critics has been  "no WMDs, no WMDs, no threat, no threat", for the past three years solid. Now we're being told that the Bush administration erred by making public information that could help any nation build an atomic bomb.

Let's go back and clarify: IRAQ HAD NUCLEAR WEAPONS PLANS SO ADVANCED AND DETAILED THAT ANY COUNTRY COULD HAVE USED THEM.

I think the Times editors are counting on this being spun as a "Boy, did Bush screw up" meme; the problem is, to do it, they have to knock down the "there was no threat in Iraq" meme, once and for all. Because obviously, Saddam could have sold this information to anybody, any other state, or any well-funded terrorist group that had publicly pledged to kill millions of Americans and had expressed interest in nuclear arms. You know, like, oh... al-Qaeda.

The New York Times just tore the heart out of the antiwar argument, and they are apparently completely oblivous to it.

The antiwar crowd is going to have to argue that the information somehow wasn't dangerous in the hands of Saddam Hussein, but was dangerous posted on the Internet. It doesn't work. It can't be both no threat to America and yet also somehow a threat to America once it's in the hands of Iran. Game, set, and match.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2001bushvindicated; 2001documents; bushlied; bushsfault; bushwasright; fmsodocuments; iraq; jveritas; magnificentbastard; nuclearweapons; nyt; oops; owngoal; postwardocs; prewardocs; pullgrenadethrowpin; rymb; saddamatomicbomb; saddamdocs; saddamnuke; waronterror; wmd; wot
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To: hipaatwo
The New York Times is confirming that in 2002, Iraq was one year away from building an atomic bomb.

Umm, no. It's a poorly written paragraph of the article, but they're not saying Iraq was one year away from having an atomic bomb in 2002 - they mean 1991.

61 posted on 11/02/2006 8:27:34 PM PST by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: Aussie Dasher; SandRat

Iraqi security forces continue to develop into a capable force and continue to take the lead. On Tuesday in Ramadi, the 3rd Battalion of the 1st Brigade of the 7th Iraqi Army Division assumed responsibility in its area of operations.

This now makes 90 Iraq army battalions in the lead. In total today, there are six of 10 Iraqi army divisions in the lead, 30 of 36 Iraqi brigades, and 90 of 112 Iraqi battalions in the lead. And we operate in support of them.

All across Iraq, we continue to see an increasingly capable Iraqi security force continuing to take the lead.

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6836&Itemid=30


62 posted on 11/02/2006 8:27:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jackson Brown

OK-so if they are so in a wad about the documents showing the nuke program they are going to have to give equal weight to the documents that show he had a WMD program and when those documents are dated.

If anything, they have given notice to ALL the documents and their contents.


63 posted on 11/02/2006 8:27:56 PM PST by pnz1 (Halp!)
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To: hipaatwo

This has to go in the RYMB category


64 posted on 11/02/2006 8:27:57 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: hipaatwo; Aliska

Ping info & last nites article on this, here!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730449/posts


65 posted on 11/02/2006 8:28:40 PM PST by blondee123 (Politicians are like diapers, need to be changed often & for the same reason!)
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To: Mo1

Chrissy Matthews will wet himself over another non story.


66 posted on 11/02/2006 8:29:01 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: msnimje

And do you know what %&!!@# you can do with Aluminum Tubes!!


67 posted on 11/02/2006 8:29:27 PM PST by MMcC
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If we don't let them, we can win the spin on this story.

Good post (#24). I hope you're right...

68 posted on 11/02/2006 8:29:41 PM PST by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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To: blondee123

Hi blondee123, please allow me to put my bookmark on your chair. :)


69 posted on 11/02/2006 8:29:58 PM PST by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: Aliska
Aliska, I dont know if that is going to be the content of the Move America Forward announcement. (BTW for those not familiar with them, they are not a liberal group)

..but I got a feeling this NYTimes article is somehow related to it.

70 posted on 11/02/2006 8:30:12 PM PST by mware
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To: LikeLight
a. NYT has just confirmed that Saddam had viable WMD tech in his possession right to the end (he wasn't supposed to have it)

No they aren't.

It's a surprisingly poorly-written and confusing article by NYT standards, but you've really got to read the thing twice and really understand the nature of the documents. They're reports BY the Iraqis TO the international inspectors, the Iraqis doing what they were required to do, summarizing the nuclear research they did PRIOR to the 1991 Gulf War.

71 posted on 11/02/2006 8:31:09 PM PST by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: hipaatwo
Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.

Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapons program.
72 posted on 11/02/2006 8:32:16 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Saddam Hussein Had A Nuclear Weapons Program)
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To: Strategerist
Here's the money quote, by the NYT, in it's very own words:

Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990’s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.

It doesn't get any sweeter than this. NYT confirms Bush was right on WMD!

73 posted on 11/02/2006 8:32:39 PM PST by LikeLight (RYMB)
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To: stylin19a

Iraq had not yet come up with a design for a workable weapon in 1991. Try again.


74 posted on 11/02/2006 8:32:39 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Jhengis Johnny was against an apology before he was for it, sort of.)
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To: hipaatwo
Ping me

OK, but it should be at the link I posted. I don't have any inside scoop or anything, just have a friend who kind of knows some people. This just came through as a newsletter to him it appears. He just helped me with a problem with some info I've been compiling, but I still need a good source.

75 posted on 11/02/2006 8:32:54 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Strategerist

So they just had the retained knowledge and could start it up as soon as they wanted to? Like, say, in a year?


76 posted on 11/02/2006 8:33:04 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

"Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war."

Captured during the war. First line of the article.


77 posted on 11/02/2006 8:34:15 PM PST by HarryCaul (www.whitehousepresscorps.com)
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To: Strategerist
Umm, no. It's a poorly written paragraph of the article, but they're not saying Iraq was one year away from having an atomic bomb in 2002 - they mean 1991.

Uh no they could not have meant that. Iraq did not have a workable design for a nuclear weapon in 1992.

78 posted on 11/02/2006 8:34:29 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Jhengis Johnny was against an apology before he was for it, sort of.)
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To: LikeLight
It doesn't get any sweeter than this. NYT confirms Bush was right on WMD!

If you consider "sweet" to be a very poorly written paragraph that you're completely misunderstanding, I guess.

79 posted on 11/02/2006 8:34:34 PM PST by Strategerist (Those who know what's best for us must rise and save us from ourselves)
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To: hsalaw; Howlin; holdonnow
I'm sure Iran didn't need to read those documents in order to make a nuke - not only could they look up "how to build a nuclear bomb" on the internet, but Russia and/or Germany have probably given them a hand, as well.

Exactly!

80 posted on 11/02/2006 8:35:01 PM PST by nutmeg (National security trumps everything else.)
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