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Air Plot Said to Target [US] Cities
Washington Post ^ | November 2,2006 | Dan Eggan

Posted on 11/04/2006 9:58:09 AM PST by meg88

A group of alleged terrorists arrested in London in August planned to blow up airliners over U.S. cities to maximize casualties, rather than over the Atlantic Ocean as many intelligence officials originally thought, according to recent remarks by a senior FBI official.

The comments by Mark Mershon, head of the FBI's New York field office, indicate that U.S. and British intelligence officials now think that the airliner plot was aimed at maximizing the potential loss of life and economic impact.

"The plan was bring them down over U.S. cities, not over the ocean," Mershon said Oct. 24 at the Infosecurity 2006 conference in New York, according to Government Security News, which first reported the remarks this week.

Authorities had previously said it was unclear where the alleged terrorists intended to detonate liquid explosives, which they planned to smuggle onto as many as 10 transatlantic flights. Michael P. Jackson, deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said shortly after the plot was thwarted that while the conspirators appeared to be targeting nonstop flights to the United States, "the real focus was to blow up airliners and the people on them."

Christine Monaco, a spokeswoman for the FBI in New York, declined to comment on Mershon's speech.

Mershon told cybersecurity conference attendees that representatives of MI5, the British intelligence service, briefed the FBI on the liquid explosives case in recent weeks. "It would make your hair stand up to be in the room to hear that presentation," Mershon said, according to GSN.

Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert and Georgetown University professor, said the case indicates that Islamic extremists remain focused on attacking U.S. cities.

"They were clearly desirous of exceeding 9/11," Hoffman said. "The loss of life on the air and ground would be significant."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bojinka2; elections; gwot; terrorattack; terrorism; wot

1 posted on 11/04/2006 9:58:09 AM PST by meg88
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To: meg88

Aw, heck. Let's vote for the Democrats.

We all know they know how to handle these guys...NOT!


2 posted on 11/04/2006 10:02:21 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: meg88

I sure hope that the government did not violate the terrorists' "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their telephone calls. That would make our governmnet as bad as the terrorists. ----- sarcasm tag



3 posted on 11/04/2006 10:02:58 AM PST by Montfort
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To: meg88

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Violate these suckers' rights, round them up and stick 'em on Guantanamo 'til they rot.


4 posted on 11/04/2006 10:07:29 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Let's all be Magnificent Bastards. Turn out those Republican votes!)
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To: ConservativeMind
Most democrats have met few wars, in the past 50 years, that they didn't want to lose.

Maybe they wanted to win a few battles during the Clinton era. They had to have some sort of military victory then, so that Hillary could run for president.

5 posted on 11/04/2006 10:11:30 AM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: meg88

Kosovo.


6 posted on 11/04/2006 10:14:48 AM PST by Toespi
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To: meg88

The MSM and the Dems try to make people believe that there is no threat and Bush is just using "scare tactics".

This article is yet another sobering reminder that very serious threat is still out there and this is no time to allow the weak-on-terror Dems to take over and surrender to the terrorists.

CNN is running a "Broken Government" special, which is a free, nonstop ad for the Dems, with nonstop bashing of Bush and Republicans.


7 posted on 11/04/2006 10:14:50 AM PST by FairOpinion (Vote Republican. The life you save may be your own. This is not an exaggeration.)
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To: meg88

The democrat party and its media mouthpieces (i.e. NY Times and Washington Post) have done every thing in their power to put America in harm's way and demoralize the American people.

A horrific attack is sooner or later going to succeed. And the democrats will once again have the blood of innocents on their hands.


8 posted on 11/04/2006 10:15:34 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember

The joker in the deck will be when the Rats realize that the terrorists have come to kill them too. Terrorists don't really care what political party you belong to.


9 posted on 11/04/2006 10:20:15 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus; Montfort; ConservativeMind; meg88
This is a copy of an E-Mail I sent after the initial incident. I know that there were some angeles I hadn't considered when I sent it, but it may have been similar to what the terrorists were planning (things in italics or strikes have been added since the original E-Mail was sent, or they are clarifications):

"The plan by the Islamic Facists (I/F) appears to have been well thought out and was insidious in so many way. It wasn't just the people on board the planes who were endangered, it was citizens on the ground, and passengers on others planes as well. Consider this scenario:

"The plan was for detonations one hour apart. Suppose that there were twelve planes targeted, but they were divided into groups of four, each group leaving approximately an hour from each other.

As the first group of four approached an airport they detonated would detonate, either clogging up a runway, or raining fire and debris down on populated areas.

The air traffic controllers would probably stop incoming planes until something could be figured out, and planes would stack up.

If they were diverted like on 9/11, maybe more would detonate, clogging up the diverted runways of the other airports they were diverted to. The air traffic controllers would be in a real trap. Then, they would have to keep planes orbiting to save lives on the ground, thus using up fuel of orbiting planes, or they would have to let planes land and take the chance that more wouldn't blow up. Also, they wouldn't know if places on land like New York, Washington DC or the Pentagon were being targeted.

The final result might have been that hundreds of planes may have been forced to ditch in the waters or some may have simply run out of fuel, or some might have been shot down by the military.

In any event, however it was planned, it had the potential to be worse in terms of lives and chaos than 9/11."

10 posted on 11/04/2006 10:22:27 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: conservative blonde

If there is any justice in the world the New York Times or Washington Post main office will be destroyed in the forthcoming attack.


11 posted on 11/04/2006 10:23:46 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

I'm trying real hard to make sense of this.They (the terrorists) have a constitutional right to destroy us but the same constitution doesn't give us the right to protect ourselves?
Vote dem and it'll all come clear.


12 posted on 11/04/2006 10:24:45 AM PST by Adrastus (If you don't like my attitude, talk to some one else.)
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To: meg88
Islamic terrorism in the West is a by-product of multiculturalism. The Republicans are just as in favor of that, including welcoming more hard workin' Muslim immigrants, as the Democrats. Imagine how wonderful life in the U.S. or [insert the name any Western nation nation here] will be once it has 10, 20, 30% percent Muslims. Go read the threads about Thailand.
13 posted on 11/04/2006 10:35:03 AM PST by jordan8
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To: Enterprise
That sounds exactly like what the Islamofacists were trying to do.

Concentrate all of the damage at one airfield so that planes with reduced fuel could not land

14 posted on 11/04/2006 10:37:36 AM PST by meg88
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To: meg88

That's possible, but I couldn't cover all scenarios. One might have been that they would clog up multiple airport runways, thus diverting more and more planes to more and more airports, with the intent of clogging up as much as possible and creating an impossible situation for the air controllers. They may have created so much fear that airplanes may have run out of fuel or may have been forced to ditch, thus dramatically driving up casualties. One thing I didn't take into account was that it would have been quickly learned that all the planes were coming from one airport in England, thus any flights from there would have been the most suspect, and they would have been diverted to more isolated runways if possible.


15 posted on 11/04/2006 10:42:51 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
round them up and stick 'em on Guantanamo 'til they rot.

Amen. Terrorism is the greatest threat our country has ever faced. These guys are much worse than the Communists. We need to round 'em up, gather as much info as we can on each one, put 'em in front of a tribunal, and let them rat each other out. Get confessions so we can put 'em all in front of a 21-gun salute.

However (and this is a big however) — as a patriot, historian, and teacher, I must disagree with your assertion that the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

I don't know about you, but I'm an American, and my laws and values were created and upheld by the Constitution. Our Constitution is a suicide pact — if not for you, then for the nation as we know it. We can add rights to it until we're blue in the face... but as soon as we start taking rights out of the Constitution, we might as well just bring the mullahs in. My $.02...
16 posted on 11/04/2006 10:43:01 AM PST by landeraepi
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Violate these suckers' rights, round them up and stick 'em on Guantanamo 'til they rot.

---
The Democrats have been getting emanations from the penumbra.

Well, what do you know, the Constitution IS a suicide pact after all!!!

I mean, who knew?
17 posted on 11/04/2006 10:50:10 AM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: meg88

I am sure the terror plotters just told police investigators what they were planning. Certainly there could not have been any other "persausive" means employed because the terrorists rights supercede the rights of all of us put in their danger. The democrats have taught us that if nothing else.


18 posted on 11/04/2006 10:59:43 AM PST by lazlohollyfeld
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To: Enterprise

Any one of your scenarios makes far more sense than what we were being fed at the time. It was ridiculous to think the jihadists would have wasted their efforts over the water. I chalked those reports up to a combination of official panic control and vapid journalism.

Regardless of what the precise scenario was to be, the given is that muslim terrorists intended the carnage to be massive. And the U.S. was the target.


19 posted on 11/04/2006 1:07:30 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: Eroteme

Thanks!


20 posted on 11/04/2006 3:07:21 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

"Violate these suckers' rights, "- Rights? What rights? Human rights are for humans.


21 posted on 11/04/2006 8:17:21 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Toespi

Yeah, they of course they wanted to win one for Muslim thugs and illegal immigrants. How politically correct!


22 posted on 11/04/2006 9:06:55 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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