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Final Thoughts on JOhn KErry
Political Opinion Dot Com ^ | November 4, 2006 | Edward Wronka

Posted on 11/04/2006 11:20:02 AM PST by BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Halping Private Carry

by Edward Wronka

Typically its not wise for political parties to dwell on the gaffes of their opponents, as a gaffe by its very nature doesn’t typically contain much in the way of substance in the more important battle of ideas that really make a difference between two political parties competing for votes in our democracy.

But the recent "botched joke" of Senator John Kerry may deserve an even deeper inspection, especially in light of the fact that this was the opposition party’s top choice to replace the President two short years ago.

That’s right! This was the number one guy that the Democrats all across the country chose to become the new Commander of Chief, in charge of the very people who, whether they can bring himself to admit it or not, are the punch line of the very joke he botched. He even received 48% of the popular vote in his bid to unseat President Bush, only a few ACORN voter registration scams away from paydirt.

The first important point that needs to be made is about whether the joke was actually botched. There are many people like myself who are quite skeptical to believe that the version of the joke that was said to be intended by John Kerry’s aides, that named President Bush as the explicit punchline, is nothing more than post mortem political damage control alibi. But regardless, even if those intended words came out of the Senator’s mouth, there would’ve still been a moment prior to the punchline where the audience would’ve had to assume he was talking about the military---one moment too long for a candidate already perceived to have contempt for our military (despite whatever time he may have spent being a part of it).

Could you imagine for a moment if Senator Trent Lott had made a joke that in any way could be thought of to be disparaging to African-Americans? His already marred career would be over.

There’s a second important point that needs to be made too. Even if Senator Kerry sincerely held the opinion that our military’s composition draws too much from our nation’s failing education system, how could there be any justification of a statement like that by any politician? Consider for a moment if instead of "stuck in Iraq", Mr. Kerry said, "stuck in McDonalds" or "stuck in janitorial careers" or "stuck collecting garbage". While such professions are sometimes stereotyped to be composed of people who didn’t do well in school, they are very honest and hard-working contributors to our nation, not to be looked down upon by our nation’s leader’s. Thus no politician would ever be allowed to make such a joke---botched or not---without having considered to commit political suicide.

Yet John Kerry made his joke---as it was originally stated---about our military. It was immediately followed, not by an important clarification that he misspoke, but rather a defiant "I apologize to no one". Eventually he said he was sorry---but sorry that people ‘misunderstood’ him. He to this very moment refuses to personally admit that he regrets the words that came out of his mouth. He can’t bring himself to admit HIS mistake, but somehow manages to blame the very people he gaffed claiming they are so dumb as to misunderstand what he meant! Perhaps this is a new level of audacity, even for him.

There is one final point that needs to be shouted from the top of the highest mountain, "The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were right!"

John Kerry has too long gotten away with simultaneously disparaging the military to the joy of the Cindy Sheehan crowds (formerly known as the Jane Fonda crowds), while maintaining a rather thin façade of claim to be a leader from rank and file military. It has never been true, and it is the raison d’etre of the Swift Boat political group. The Swift Boat group, composed of many actual military men who served with John Kerry, had spent their energy getting out the message that John Kerry had a long record of contempt towards the military. Though their media attack on John Kerry has often been characterized as being unfair by many major media figures, the underlying truth to their message has never been more apparent.

It’ll be interesting to see what political futures lie ahead for John Kerry. If he still decided to run for the Presidency again, my own guess is that he’ll never poll beyond single digits, even in his own party’s primary. Unfortunately, I cannot make any such prediction for any future campaigns for the Senate seat that he now holds, given his state’s horrendous reputation for awarding the other Senate seat against all common sense, logic, or decency to Ted Kennedy. Long live our democracy!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: botched; dumbasskerry; iraq; joke; joncarry; kerry; sheehan
Does everyone agree that John Kerry's Presidential Dreams are over?
1 posted on 11/04/2006 11:20:04 AM PST by BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Does everyone agree that John Kerry's Presidential Dreams are over?

Yess wee al ugre


2 posted on 11/04/2006 11:22:45 AM PST by albie
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Everybody but himself, his bloated ego won't except it.


3 posted on 11/04/2006 11:22:53 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

"Final Thoughts on John Kerry"

Oh, if only they were!


4 posted on 11/04/2006 11:23:08 AM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Yes, they are over, forever and ever. :)


5 posted on 11/04/2006 11:23:46 AM PST by romanesq
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Does everyone agree that John Kerry's Presidential Dreams are over?

I hope so!

Could you imagine recruiting for the armed forces in John Kerry's America?

John Kerry wants you for the Dumbass Army!

6 posted on 11/04/2006 11:24:27 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Who is this "John Kerry" of whom you speak?


7 posted on 11/04/2006 11:25:46 AM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
"I'm a COMBAT VETERAN"


8 posted on 11/04/2006 11:28:28 AM PST by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
While we all may be glad to see the end of John Kerry, the real teflon demon is the key beneficiary of Ketchup Boy's gaffe. She has smartly stayed far away from the fray, and is counting her blessings.

She has survived Whitewater, Fostergate and a litany of suspicious deaths and scandals. Now she is really on top.

The Dems are distancing themselves from the Democratic party's new leper - John Kerry!

Need I name the beast?
Her number is 600, 3 score and 6.

9 posted on 11/04/2006 11:29:18 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: albie

Agree - even if we lose every seat in Congress this election marks the End of JOhn KErry as a viable candidate, and for that we can all rejoice!


10 posted on 11/04/2006 11:30:22 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: Enterprise

who went to Vietnam by the way...


11 posted on 11/04/2006 11:31:26 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

His dreams aren't over because he knows he is as good as anyone else in the democrat party. He figures he's the best of the worst.


12 posted on 11/04/2006 11:32:16 AM PST by KyHammer (Where's Zarquawi ? ......Blowed up sir!)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Does everyone agree that John Kerry's Presidential Dreams are over?

Ey due.

13 posted on 11/04/2006 11:32:33 AM PST by Bahbah (Support the military and their mission, vote Republican.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
I hope not. He is the gift that keeps on giving. Let the devilcrat in 2008 spend too much money kicking his a**. Their battle not ours.
14 posted on 11/04/2006 11:33:01 AM PST by Lee Enfield ( Tag lines we don't need no stinking tag lines)
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To: darkwing104
Does everyone agree that John Kerry's Presidential Dreams are over?

They WILL run him as a VP. Bet on it.

15 posted on 11/04/2006 11:34:32 AM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

I disagree that his presidential dreams are over. He is so stupid he probably doesn't realize an individual with a shred of decency would apologize and resign from the Senate. He is also so stupid he doesn't realize that no decent person will vote for him.

But he is smart enough to realize most Democrats--and I am a recovering conservative Democrat--don't vote for decent, honorable men and women. That went out of favor with Democrats in the 1970s.


16 posted on 11/04/2006 11:34:48 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
I want to believe that they are but the Demonrats are so stupid, they will believe what the DNC tells them.

One more thing, This gives the Hildabeast a longer runway now. This may be worse for conservatives. I hope not.

17 posted on 11/04/2006 11:37:51 AM PST by ziggy_dlo (THE LAND OF THE FREE, FOUGHT FOR BY THE BRAVE!!!)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
No way.
18 posted on 11/04/2006 11:39:43 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Liberals would let Mark Foley be a Boy Scout leader.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
They WILL run him as a VP. Bet on it.

Or perhaps they'll just wait and appoint him as SecDef or something.

19 posted on 11/04/2006 11:40:32 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

with who.....hillary or obama????


20 posted on 11/04/2006 11:41:00 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Kerry's presidential dreams were over the second they came into conflict with those of She Who Must Not Be Named. The rest is window dressing.

I can't help but think that the real damage was done not so much by Kerry's outrageous insult, but by the two-day period in which he tried to claim that what he'd intended to say was more important than what he did say. This was compounded by the number of liberal mouths who came forward earnestly bleating that Kerry was right, that the military really is the repository of the mentally deficient. It doesn't help when your people are defending a position you want to convince everyone else that you didn't take.

21 posted on 11/04/2006 11:41:45 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

True. And it's true, too, that the dems will continue to hobble defense, intelligence, the economy, and the culture of red America. Are we nearer to civil war?


22 posted on 11/04/2006 11:44:16 AM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

I never thought my contribution to the swiftboat vets would pay dividends but it has based on kerry still stinging from their success in denying him access to the whitehouse. I'm sure his recent comments were partially fueled by the swiftees actions. God bless each and every one of them. **==


23 posted on 11/04/2006 11:44:50 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Yeah. Any future nomination was pretty dim anyway, but this cleans his clock.

Watch out for a reapperance of Al Bore. Many, many in the Defeatocratic Party think Hillary will never win; with Kerry a goner that leaves Bore or the trial lawyer Edwards.


24 posted on 11/04/2006 12:02:01 PM PST by kjo
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To: Mach9

If we are nearer to civil war, it should be over fast as the dims, for the most part, are not particularly well armed (look at Massghanistan's restrictive gun laws) nor particularly well trained (as indicated by JOhn KErry's comments that the smart/beautiful people don't go into the military. Okay, I will admit to not being as smart as the younger troops and to being ugly as an elephant's butt.)


25 posted on 11/04/2006 12:11:48 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Yup. It's over for the traitor. I hope he resigns.


26 posted on 11/04/2006 12:14:35 PM PST by Lovergirl (Once a SnowFlake always a SnowFlake.)
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To: kjo
Watch out for a reapperance of Al Bore. Many, many in the Defeatocratic Party think Hillary will never win; with Kerry a goner that leaves Bore or the trial lawyer Edwards.

Well, what about plugs?

27 posted on 11/04/2006 12:26:20 PM PST by SMM48
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Get a clue fella, implying the troops are stupid losers is exactly the message of the Democrats. Calling it a botched joke two days later is a weasel's way of "setting the record straight"... with another bald face lie.


28 posted on 11/04/2006 12:33:04 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Kerry was associated with the SDS. They are, again, starting up on college campii. Who is financing them this time? Al Queda, Saudi's or the Dems?


29 posted on 11/04/2006 12:35:22 PM PST by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

kerry's too much of an ego freak to keep his idiotic mouth shut, stay alert for more gifts in the next couple days.


30 posted on 11/04/2006 12:36:36 PM PST by hutysez
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
There is one final point that needs to be shouted from the top of the highest mountain, "The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were right!"


31 posted on 11/04/2006 12:40:30 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Does everyone agree that John Kerry's Presidential Dreams are over?

No, his dream isn't over because the idiot doesn't get it. But his chances of becoming president are nil. Just like gun owners didn't buy off on his ridiculous bird hunt photo op, people know this wasn't a joke gone awry. After all, who was the audience that day? College students, not presidential contenders. The message was perfectly clear. John F'n Kerry was telling students to stay in school and study hard, otherwise they'd be stuck in Iraq. It had nothing to do with President Bush until the spinmeisters went into action.

32 posted on 11/04/2006 1:16:09 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

Nice editorial, many great points made by the author.

Amidst all of the laughing I have done at the various posts here on FR and articles elsewhere on Carry's major mess-up, the sobering thought hits me right between the eyes - This Man Almost Became President!


33 posted on 11/04/2006 1:33:47 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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To: All

MAJOR UPDATE: JOHN KERRY'S OWN WEBSITE CLAIMS HIS "JOKE" WAS "RIGHT EITHER WAY" !!!

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/articles/newsarticle.html?id=80

H/T Ace of Spades
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/203743.php


34 posted on 11/04/2006 1:48:12 PM PST by AliVeritas (Mr. Webb, who is Melissa Harrington, Dorothy Tran and Joe Cato?)
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To: AliVeritas
MAJOR UPDATE: JOHN KERRY'S OWN WEBSITE CLAIMS HIS "JOKE" WAS "RIGHT EITHER WAY" !!!

Unbelievable.

Jon Carry is an idiot.

And a traitor.

35 posted on 11/04/2006 1:59:58 PM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Unless we are ruled by a dictatorship, John Kerry is French toast.
36 posted on 11/04/2006 2:59:04 PM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: AliVeritas

What a jerk. The mere fact that the military pays for someone's education, doesn't mean that person is lazy or stupid.


37 posted on 11/04/2006 3:03:06 PM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: Bon mots
While we all may be glad to see the end of John Kerry, the real teflon demon is the key beneficiary of Ketchup Boy's gaffe

I wouldn't be surprised if one of her devotees wrote Kerry's "joke."

38 posted on 11/04/2006 3:07:47 PM PST by syriacus (Got a moment? The election prayer thread's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1731268/posts)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

What the US Army recruiting poster under "President" Kerry would look like:

Our brave warriors n Irak respond to Jon Carry"


Kerry is no different re his hatred of a strong America and our warriors than 99.9% of the rats in congress. Every rat running for election should have to face a copy of this banner everytime they show their treasonous faces. Pelosi, Murtha, Clintoon, Boxer, Kennedy, Durbin, Levin, Rangle, Reid and other rats in congress hate our military and a strong America. Just look at their voting records the past two years as President Bush pointed out this week.

Kerry is shown leading his fellow hate America and our military Rats to their final destination in American Politics:

(John Kerry picked the wrong people to insult.)

I can't help but feel the real shame is on us, the American voters. We continue to let our troops, our heritage and our nation down by sending the dreggs of our society to represent us at the highest levels and portray our image and soul around the globe.

My GOD- how low have we slipped when we elect murderers, admitted war criminals and traitors to the highest body in our government?

SHAME ON US!

24 posted on 11/03/2006 8:33:33 AM PST by Baynative (There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress - Mark Twain)

Kerry in one of his many acts of treason after his very short Nam tour.

Vote against all traitors this election day. Support our troops and their CIC, President Bush.


39 posted on 11/04/2006 9:22:46 PM PST by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog

With Democrats ,nothing is a sure thing.On a slight segway,Senate candidate Harold Ford jr. was asked if Kerry's apology was sufficiant.His ansswer was that as a Christian he is to forgive.Mr. Ford can't be THAT niave (please check spelling)or THAT trusting,can he? If he is ,we ARE in trouble!!!!!!!!


40 posted on 11/05/2006 12:37:44 AM PST by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
Yet John Kerry made his joke---as it was originally stated

Exactly how do we know what the original intent was - not what was provided after the fact, but what the original intent was. Did somebody videotape a rehearsal, or are we supposed to rely on somebody on the Kerry payroll to tell us the truth about what the original intent was?

41 posted on 11/05/2006 12:41:34 AM PST by Bernard
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To: Bernard

I think theres little that changed in the edit anyway. I still think the intended joke is as bad---its just a more tongue in cheek dis on the military---plausible deniability. But he would know all to well that thats how it would be interpreted.

Add that to the fact that he never apologized for the joke as he said it.


42 posted on 11/05/2006 5:47:24 AM PST by BigChiefEddieLightningFrog
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