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Where are all the half-evolved dinosaurs?
Pravda ^ | 05.06.2006 | Babu G. Ranganathan

Posted on 11/04/2006 1:44:51 PM PST by RunningWolf

Note; Had to remove words to get under 300. See article.

People are taught that the fossil record furnishes proof of evolution. But, where are there fossils of half-evolved dinosaurs or other creatures?

The fossil record contains fossils of only complete and fully-formed species. There are no fossils of partially-evolved species.

Evolutionists claim that the genetic and biological similarities between species is evidence of common ancestry. However, that is only one interpretation of the evidence. Neither position can be scientifically proved.

Although Darwin was partially correct by showing that natural selection occurs in nature, the problem is that natural selection itself is not a creative force. The evidence from genetics supports only the possibility for horizontal evolution (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, horses, cows, etc.) but not vertical evolution (i.e. from fish to human). Unless Nature has the ability to perform genetic engineering vertical evolution will not be possible.

Science cannot prove we're here by creation, but neither can science prove we're here by chance or macro-evolution. No one has observed either. They are both accepted on faith. The issue is which faith, Darwinian macro-evolutionary theory or creation, has better scientific support.

What we believe about life's origins does influence our philosophy and value of life as well as our view of ourselves and others. This is no small issue!

Just because the laws of science can explain how life and the universe operate and work doesn't mean there is no Maker.

Natural laws are adequate to explain the order in life, but undirected natural laws can never fully explain the origin of such order.

The law of entropy in science shows that the universe does not have the ability to have sustained itself from all eternity. In other words, the universe cannot be eternal and requires a beginning.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


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Natural laws are adequate to explain how the order in life, the universe, but mere undirected natural laws can never fully explain the origin of such order.

What we believe about life's origins does influence our philosophy and value of life as well as our view of ourselves and others. This is no small issue! Note; I took a few words out of the excpert to get it under 300 words.

Science cannot prove we're here by creation, but neither can science prove we're here by chance or macro-evolution. No one has observed either. They are both accepted on faith. The issue is which faith?

1 posted on 11/04/2006 1:44:54 PM PST by RunningWolf
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To: editor-surveyor
FWI
2 posted on 11/04/2006 1:45:44 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

Why all the italians?


3 posted on 11/04/2006 1:46:56 PM PST by corkoman
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To: RunningWolf

Amen!! There is NO record of a species evolving.


4 posted on 11/04/2006 1:47:12 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: RunningWolf

So you people are now reduced to Pravda articles to "argue" your points.

We'll know you've finally given it up when the Weekly World News articles show up...we can hardly wait.


5 posted on 11/04/2006 1:48:25 PM PST by decal (Building a wall on the border is like treating lung cancer with cough syrup.)
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To: corkoman
Note; Had to remove words to get under 300. See article.

People are taught that the fossil record furnishes proof of evolution. But, where are there fossils of half-evolved dinosaurs or other creatures?

The fossil record contains fossils of only complete and fully-formed species. There are no fossils of partially-evolved species.

Evolutionists claim that the genetic and biological similarities between species is evidence of common ancestry. However, that is only one interpretation of the evidence. Neither position can be scientifically proved.

Although Darwin was partially correct by showing that natural selection occurs in nature, the problem is that natural selection itself is not a creative force. The evidence from genetics supports only the possibility for horizontal evolution (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, horses, cows, etc.) but not vertical evolution (i.e. from fish to human). Unless Nature has the ability to perform genetic engineering vertical evolution will not be possible.

Science cannot prove we're here by creation, but neither can science prove we're here by chance or macro-evolution. No one has observed either. They are both accepted on faith. The issue is which faith, Darwinian macro-evolutionary theory or creation, has better scientific support.

What we believe about life's origins does influence our philosophy and value of life as well as our view of ourselves and others. This is no small issue!

Just because the laws of science can explain how life and the universe operate and work doesn't mean there is no Maker.

Natural laws are adequate to explain the order in life, but undirected natural laws can never fully explain the origin of such order.

The law of entropy in science shows that the universe does not have the ability to have sustained itself from all eternity. In other words, the universe cannot be eternal and requires a beginning.
6 posted on 11/04/2006 1:48:30 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
Ok I'll bite.

Although Darwin was partially correct by showing that natural selection occurs in nature, the problem is that natural selection itself is not a creative force.

Well I would say that procreating is a pretty good creative force. Life's not much fun when the dudes or chicks wont do it with you.

7 posted on 11/04/2006 1:48:59 PM PST by corkoman
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To: RunningWolf

I don't know. Occupying faculty offices in biology departments, perhaps?


9 posted on 11/04/2006 1:50:06 PM PST by RichInOC (...I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I just couldn't resist.)
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To: decal
We'll know you've finally given it up when the Weekly World News articles show up...we can hardly wait.

There's no evidence that Bat Boy evolved. Game, Set, Match.

10 posted on 11/04/2006 1:51:14 PM PST by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: waterlootruck

heh heh


11 posted on 11/04/2006 1:51:30 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

Odd that this is from Pravda. That stated, there are more accurate sources with anti-Macroevolutionary articles. In Pravda's article on a theoretical hyperdrive, they stated that they Alpha Centauri system was 11 lightyears away instead of the Tau Ceti system.


12 posted on 11/04/2006 1:52:00 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( One billion Americans.)
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To: RunningWolf

"The fossil record contains fossils of only complete and fully-formed species. There are no fossils of partially-evolved species."

bttt


13 posted on 11/04/2006 1:53:17 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: RunningWolf

"Where are all the half-evolved dinosaurs?"

Some of them are at the NYT, and some at the LA Times.


14 posted on 11/04/2006 1:53:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
they the....
15 posted on 11/04/2006 1:53:26 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( One billion Americans.)
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To: RunningWolf
Note; Had to remove words to get under 300.

Why?

16 posted on 11/04/2006 1:53:44 PM PST by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: RunningWolf

Where are all the half-evolved dinosaurs?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

birds


17 posted on 11/04/2006 1:54:02 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Where are all the half-evolved dinosaurs?)
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To: RunningWolf
Old news .. security prevents me from printing the truth ..
18 posted on 11/04/2006 1:54:32 PM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: RunningWolf

There are no half-evolved dinosaurs becasue they became extinct.

Duh.


19 posted on 11/04/2006 1:54:45 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: RunningWolf; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; Baraonda; BereanBrain; ...

Well, where are they?


20 posted on 11/04/2006 1:54:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: upchuck
The software wont allow more.
21 posted on 11/04/2006 1:55:06 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
"The issue is which faith?"

No it's not. There is no issue.

There is money and political exploitation, but the "issues" around them are nonsense.

22 posted on 11/04/2006 1:55:13 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: RunningWolf
half-evolved - LOL

This reminds of a question I posed to an evolutioner years ago who adamantly defended that we "evolved" from apes.

Rather than argue, I asked her: "If we evolved from apes, then how come we still have apes."

I can still see her mouth agape - she was utterly confused and stuck dumb - er dumber

23 posted on 11/04/2006 1:56:50 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: editor-surveyor
Well, where are they?

There are none, save for in the imaginations of the evolutionist's.
24 posted on 11/04/2006 1:57:30 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

Further, why aren't there any oceanic species building cities and cars?


25 posted on 11/04/2006 1:57:40 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: RichInOC


Occupying faculty offices at a university does not guarantee knowledge of truth.

Listened to any poly sci profs lately?


26 posted on 11/04/2006 1:58:02 PM PST by Mrs.Z
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To: Suzy Quzy
Amen!! There is NO record of a species evolving.

Sorry..Evolution happens.

27 posted on 11/04/2006 1:59:25 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: waterlootruck
"Never been to a truck stop, eh?"

Them's fully developed lizards, driver.

28 posted on 11/04/2006 1:59:29 PM PST by knarf (Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
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To: RunningWolf

monotremes.


29 posted on 11/04/2006 1:59:41 PM PST by motife
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To: finnman69
Actually, they are ALL half evolved dinosaurs.
30 posted on 11/04/2006 2:00:19 PM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: ExtremeUnction

But not Macroevolution.


31 posted on 11/04/2006 2:00:27 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( One billion Americans.)
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To: RunningWolf

It may be that evolutionary changes happen quickly. Kind of like a glass of water that you fill to the brim and even over the brim before it spills. There may not be many half evolved fossil remains, just as there is virtually no time at all between the last drop in the glass and the overspill.


32 posted on 11/04/2006 2:00:36 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: RunningWolf

This is not much of an arguement.

To evolove means to change. All species are in between evoloving. The problem is evoloving into what. Nobody knows.

A few examples: dolphins and Whales, air breathing mammals living in water. Penguines, a bird evolved into an aquatic species. A saber toothed tiger, evoloving into a modern day tiger. Even modern man, gaining height, gaining disease resistance, and gaining years. What will man born in space and raised there look like after a few generations?

And on the creation side, who can say that the Supreme Being (God) is done changing species. Perhaps he is tweaking his creations, even as we speak.

.... Bob


33 posted on 11/04/2006 2:01:50 PM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: RunningWolf
There are no fossils of partially-evolved species.

I think Archaeopteryx is considered partially evolved.
34 posted on 11/04/2006 2:01:57 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: SteveMcKing
I disagree.

To borrow from the article

What we believe about life's origins does influence our philosophy and value of life as well as our view of ourselves and others. This is no small issue!
35 posted on 11/04/2006 2:02:05 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

I can prove vertical evolution! I can show that a venomous snake evolved into Ted Kennedy!


36 posted on 11/04/2006 2:02:37 PM PST by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: corkoman
"Well I would say that procreating is a pretty good creative force."

No, it is only a duplicative process, since it is controlled by a template (DNA), just as a CAM milling machine making a complex part.

37 posted on 11/04/2006 2:02:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Mrs.Z

My post was a humorous attempt to answer the question in the post title.

And as a matter of fact, I do happen to remember some of my poli sci and econ professors from the Eighties. I know what you mean.


38 posted on 11/04/2006 2:02:55 PM PST by RichInOC ("I see stupid people. They're everywhere....They don't even know that they're dumb.")
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To: RunningWolf

The Macroevolution gestapo has arrived. (There are some Macroevolutionist freepers who, although they vehemently disagree with Creationism, are generally mature in their responses. Too often though, another, larger group of Macroevolutionists simply rudely insult that which they do not agree with. The same occurs among Creationists, but to a MUCH lesser extent).


39 posted on 11/04/2006 2:03:32 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( One billion Americans.)
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To: RunningWolf
Where are all the half-evolved dinosaurs?

Running the Democrat party?

40 posted on 11/04/2006 2:04:10 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Continental Soldier

I used to consider and give some credence to all the various approaches to the theory.


41 posted on 11/04/2006 2:04:56 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: maine-iac7

"Rather than argue, I asked her: "If we evolved from apes, then how come we still have apes."

My understanding is Humans and modern apes evolved from a common ancestor which is now extinct, rather than Humans evolving directly from primates currently on Earth.


42 posted on 11/04/2006 2:05:16 PM PST by grizzly84
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To: RunningWolf
BABU:  "You bad man! You very very bad man!"

43 posted on 11/04/2006 2:05:36 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: corkoman
They followed the Irish... evolution has not yet taken hold, though. There are no O'Bonaccis or McCiccarrellis so far.
44 posted on 11/04/2006 2:05:37 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: RunningWolf
You're correct, sort of. For some sites, we're limited to 300 words. But not from Pravda as that web site is not on the must excerpt list.
45 posted on 11/04/2006 2:06:56 PM PST by upchuck (Eventually the Islamofascists must be destroyed. The longer we wait, the bloodier it is going to be.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

>>Odd that this is from Pravda. That stated, there are more accurate sources with anti-Macroevolutionary articles. In Pravda's article on a theoretical hyperdrive, they stated that they Alpha Centauri system was 11 lightyears away instead of the Tau Ceti system.<<

So Pravda is anti-evolution>?!


46 posted on 11/04/2006 2:07:23 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: corkoman
And if you're a gay penguin? Or lesbian seagul?
47 posted on 11/04/2006 2:08:09 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: upchuck
Thats good to know. So if I had not checked the box I would not have hit the limit.
48 posted on 11/04/2006 2:09:21 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: editor-surveyor

In the lint of my belly button and under my toe-nails, fermenting, stinking... EVOLVING.


49 posted on 11/04/2006 2:13:18 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: RunningWolf

It should be obvious to everyone, that those half evolved fossils can be found in abundance on the left side of the aisle.


50 posted on 11/04/2006 2:13:44 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Merry John Kerry: The outward manifestation of the dim party's, unseen,but detestable innards.)
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