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Saddam told he should die by the rope like a common criminal
Sunday Telegraph ^ | November 5, 2006 | Colin Freeman and Aqeel Hussein

Posted on 11/04/2006 4:49:29 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Saddam Hussein is to be denied his final wish of an "honourable" death by military firing squad after court officials ruled he should face the gallows as a common criminal if found guilty.

The former Iraqi dictator, who is expected to be given the death sentence today when a verdict is delivered in his first war crimes trial, has been demanding execution by the gun rather than the rope, on the basis that he was head of the country's armed forces.

But the Iraqi war crimes court in Baghdad has dismissed his request, noting that Saddam failed the entry exam for the Iraqi military academy and only became field marshal by appointing himself when president.

Its ruling is in line with legal conventions from Saddam's own time in power: Iraqi courts allowed a quick death by firing squad for those who showed remorse, but required the rope for those who they felt deserved to suffer.

Throughout the year-long proceedings, Saddam has shown no contrition, defiantly telling a closing session of the trial: "This case is not worth the urine of an Iraqi child."

The verdict will be announced with Iraq under virtual lockdown for fear that Saddam's supporters will use it to stoke further insurgent and sectarian violence.

Baghdad is expected to be sealed off and its airport shut as the chief judge in the trial, Rauf Abdel Rahman, delivers his verdict. A curfew has already been imposed on the northern province of Salaheddin, which includes the city of Tikrit, where 69-year-old Saddam was born.

Iraqi and American officials fear an escalation of savage clashes between Sunni and Shia Muslims, which are already claiming upwards of 100 lives a day in Baghdad and surrounding provinces.

The minority Sunnis, who enjoyed privileges under Saddam's rule, see the special tribunal as little more than a tool for political revenge by Iraq's new Shia-led government. Today's judgment, which is against Saddam and seven former members of his regime, relates to the killing of 148 Shias rounded up after an assassination attempt on the president during a visit to Dujail, north of Baghdad, in 1982. Some of the victims, who allegedly included woman and children, were tortured before they died.

Handwriting experts have told the court that the signature on their death warrants was Saddam's. He maintains his innocence, insisting that the court is an illegitimate tool of the US occupation.

Although today's verdict is all but certain to confirm Saddam's guilt and impose the death sentence, it remains unclear exactly when it will be carried out.

"From the time any verdict is handed down there is an automatic appeal to a nine-judge panel," said one source close to the tribunal. "They can take as long as they want over whether to dismiss the appeal but if they do, then under Iraqi law the sentence must be carried out within 30 days."

Three of the others in the dock alongside Saddam are likely to be sentenced to die.

They are: Taha Yassin Ramadan, a former industry minister who once said that any Iraqi who did not work hard should face execution; Saddam's half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti, a former intelligence chief accused of involvement in rounding up Dujail villagers; Awad Hamed al-Bander, a former revolutionary court judge accused of presiding over show trials and summary executions. Another three, all local Ba'ath party officials in the Dujail area, are expected to get long jail sentences, while one of their colleagues is expected to be released.

Were Saddam to hang within the coming months, it would leave him as an absent defendant in his current, second trial for massacring thousands of Iraqi Kurds during the al-Anfal campaign in the 1980s. He has also been charged with crimes including the illegal invasions of Iran and Kuwait. Prosecutors appear to be happy for those trials to proceed without him.

If the death sentence is pronounced and the appeals process exhausted, there will be a question over what will happen to Saddam's body. US commanders believe he may have to be buried at a secret, unmarked spot in the desert to prevent his grave becoming a shrine for supporters.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; saddam; saddamtrial; warcriminal
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1 posted on 11/04/2006 4:49:31 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Good. Hang the dictator.


2 posted on 11/04/2006 4:51:01 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"¡¡Ayyyyyyyyy, piñata!!"
3 posted on 11/04/2006 4:52:16 PM PST by RichInOC (SHAITAN: HOW ARE YOU SADDAM!! ALL YOUR SOUL ARE BELONG TO US. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: West Coast Conservative

An old Kurdish woman had a solution I liked.

She said he should be put in a cage so people can cut pieces off of him forever.


4 posted on 11/04/2006 4:52:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: saganite

A nice bit of early November news.


5 posted on 11/04/2006 4:52:57 PM PST by JLS
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To: West Coast Conservative

He deserves death by baseball bat.


6 posted on 11/04/2006 4:53:03 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: West Coast Conservative

After 18 years of appeals, he will be hung.....


7 posted on 11/04/2006 4:53:40 PM PST by Lexington Green
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To: West Coast Conservative

If Saddam were responsible for the death of one of my loved ones I'd vote for death by industrial shredder. .....feet first, and slowly.


8 posted on 11/04/2006 4:53:47 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: West Coast Conservative
But the Iraqi war crimes court in Baghdad has dismissed his request, noting that Saddam failed the entry exam for the Iraqi military academy and only became field marshal by appointing himself when president.

HaHa!

9 posted on 11/04/2006 4:54:23 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The most watched vid at YouTube in a few months will be an unauthorized bootleg of Saddam's hanging.


10 posted on 11/04/2006 4:54:24 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
But the Iraqi war crimes court in Baghdad has dismissed his request, noting that Saddam failed the entry exam for the Iraqi military academy and only became field marshal by appointing himself when president.

LOL.

11 posted on 11/04/2006 4:55:08 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Saddam failed the entry exam for the Iraqi military academy

snicker...

Failure.

Funny (in a not funny way!) how little people who fail at something feel the need to come back and ruin the thing which rejected them.

12 posted on 11/04/2006 4:57:26 PM PST by bannie
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To: West Coast Conservative

Feet first into a wood chipper was not an option?


13 posted on 11/04/2006 4:57:49 PM PST by leftcoaster
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To: West Coast Conservative

Cut his head off with a DIRTY OLD Dull blade!


14 posted on 11/04/2006 4:58:49 PM PST by US Navy guy
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To: proudofthesouth

You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don't, you get hanged like a common criminal in Iraq.


15 posted on 11/04/2006 4:59:07 PM PST by warpsmith
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To: Mr. Mojo

After which, he slowly roasts in Hell until done to a fine turn.


16 posted on 11/04/2006 5:00:47 PM PST by Arm_Bears (See Rock City!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

They hanged Eichmann. Dancing on air is a fitting end to a tyrant.


17 posted on 11/04/2006 5:02:32 PM PST by IronJack
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To: saganite
"Hang the dictator."

Agree, but do it quickly. This POS will be a symbol for a number of those sick-murderous bastards who will take to the street to protest following the judicial decision. Then, by Iraqi law, the demented scum will be afforded still another trial. Troops should have shot him through the head when found in his "hole".

18 posted on 11/04/2006 5:03:31 PM PST by fuzzthatwuz
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To: saganite

19 posted on 11/04/2006 5:04:03 PM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: saganite

Agreed..and let him rot and let the birds of the sky eat his flesh...


20 posted on 11/04/2006 5:05:18 PM PST by GulfWar1Vet (John Kerry...resign from the Senate. You are a disgrace. Resign.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

US commanders believe he may have to be buried at a secret, unmarked spot in the desert to prevent his grave becoming a shrine for supporters.

Burn him up and toss the ashes into the desert. Although I like the idea of him being hanged, drawn, and quartered . Seems fitting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drawing_and_quartering


21 posted on 11/04/2006 5:07:52 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: Lexington Green

You're right. Saddam will probably die of natural causes.


22 posted on 11/04/2006 5:08:56 PM PST by zebra 2
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To: West Coast Conservative

What time US EST will the verdict be announced?


23 posted on 11/04/2006 5:10:10 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hang him like pinata LOL!


24 posted on 11/04/2006 5:10:42 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: saganite

25 posted on 11/04/2006 5:11:41 PM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: cripplecreek
Sometimes I'm forced to long for the good old days when a piece of murderous filth like this could be broken on the wheel.

L

26 posted on 11/04/2006 5:14:27 PM PST by Lurker (A liberal thinks they can sleep in, and someone will cover their lame ass. Ted Nugent)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Death by low powered sandblaster filled with salt.


27 posted on 11/04/2006 5:14:41 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous"---Hobbes the Tiger)
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To: West Coast Conservative

If he be hanged til dead be sure and rub some pig fat on it first!
If he be shot, then line up some really poor marksmen with multiple loads and have them keep firing.
If he be beheaded with a dull knife make sure its a dull pig sticker (that actually did just stick a pig).
Or he can clean the dog and cat cages at the pound for the rest of his natural life.


28 posted on 11/04/2006 5:15:23 PM PST by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: West Coast Conservative; All
But the Iraqi war crimes court in Baghdad has dismissed his request, noting that Saddam failed the entry exam for the Iraqi military academy and only became field marshal by appointing himself when president.
“As far as Saddam Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that, he’s a great military man, I want you to know that.”

— General Norman Schwarzkopf.


29 posted on 11/04/2006 5:15:27 PM PST by dighton
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To: West Coast Conservative

Tell him, right before he hangs from the neck dead, that he needs to (ahem) up the rope, and say hi to Satan when he gets there.


30 posted on 11/04/2006 5:19:21 PM PST by Maigrey (Airport Security - Useless Kabuki Theatre. - Ann Coulter)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hang him in public - with panties over his head.


31 posted on 11/04/2006 5:22:01 PM PST by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Saddam Hussein is to be denied his final wish of an "honourable" death by military firing squad after court officials ruled he should face the gallows as a common criminal if found guilty.

That question came up at the Nuremberg trials. The Frogs thought the firing squad appropriate, but they were overruled by the Americans and the Soviets. US Army MP Joseph Malta got the job (except for Goering, who checked out early with the aid of smuggled cyanide).

32 posted on 11/04/2006 5:27:36 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: zebra 2

More enlightened Freepers are welcome to correct me, but as I understand it, he will be hung right after the verdict. There is no appeals process.


33 posted on 11/04/2006 5:31:09 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Throw the bastard in the same shredder he used on his enemies.


34 posted on 11/04/2006 5:32:27 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: mplsconservative

Sorry, hanged.


35 posted on 11/04/2006 5:32:37 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hang 'em high.


36 posted on 11/04/2006 5:35:19 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: mplsconservative
"From the time any verdict is handed down there is an automatic appeal to a nine-judge panel," said one source close to the tribunal. "They can take as long as they want over whether to dismiss the appeal but if they do, then under Iraqi law the sentence must be carried out within 30 days."
37 posted on 11/04/2006 5:35:26 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: West Coast Conservative

Too bad. A firing squad would be more painful than a hanging.


38 posted on 11/04/2006 5:37:50 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: West Coast Conservative
Handwriting experts have told the court that the signature on their death warrants was Saddam's.

Never, ever, put it in writing!

39 posted on 11/04/2006 5:38:36 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: 2111USMC

Thank you for clarifying. I was under the belief that the penalty was immediate.

Guess, I should read the article. Sorry for my ignorance.


40 posted on 11/04/2006 5:40:02 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

God, I love cheerful, happy threads like this.


41 posted on 11/04/2006 5:41:21 PM PST by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Hoist him back onto that pedestal from which he was toppled by US Marines on 9 April 2003 ...

Like so ...


42 posted on 11/04/2006 5:45:27 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: West Coast Conservative

Death by Sporkweasels.


43 posted on 11/04/2006 5:48:16 PM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese, that why I don't sing.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
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44 posted on 11/04/2006 5:51:52 PM PST by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Unauthorized?!? It will probably be shown on Iraqi National TV.


45 posted on 11/04/2006 6:03:04 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal)
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To: Lexington Green

"..deny the appeal....must be executed within thirty days."

Iraq may be a fledgling democracy, but they are light-years ahead of the USA in carrying out justice.


46 posted on 11/04/2006 6:05:13 PM PST by burroak
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yikes! That's the most grim one I believe I've ever read. Sure effective punishment.


47 posted on 11/04/2006 6:07:03 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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To: West Coast Conservative

His countdown begins.


48 posted on 11/04/2006 6:07:10 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

WOOD CHIPPER like in FARGO! Feet first!


49 posted on 11/04/2006 6:07:34 PM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: radar101

I like the idea of slicing off bit by bit

But my son said "Kill him quick so he will hve a lot more time in HELL"


50 posted on 11/04/2006 6:08:21 PM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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